All Aboard Florida Miami-Orlando High Speed Rail | Proposed

For the proposed Downtown Miami mixed use station, see:

FEC Mixed-Use Downtown Miami Rail Station | Proposed

For the proposed Downtown Ft. Lauderdale & West Palm Beach Stations see:
All Aboard Florida Downtown Ft. Lauderdale & West Palm Beach Stations | Proposed

Florida East Coast Industries, Inc. Announces Plans for Private Passenger Rail Service in Florida

[B]Nation’s First-of-its-Kind Privately Owned and Operated System Will Connect Florida’s Largest Cities[/B]

Florida East Coast Industries, Inc. (FECI), the owner of Florida’s premier passenger rail corridor, is developing a privately owned, operated and maintained passenger rail service to connect South Florida and Orlando, which will be operational in 2014. By connecting the most visited city in the United States with South Florida’s business and vacation destinations, the passenger rail project, called All Aboard Florida, is designed to serve Florida’s growing number of business travelers, as well as families and tourists traveling for pleasure.
The All Aboard Florida passenger rail project will connect South Florida to Orlando through a 240-mile route combining 200 miles of existing tracks between Miami and Cocoa and the creation of 40 miles of new track to complete the route to Orlando. Eventually the system could be expanded with connections to Tampa and Jacksonville.
More than fifty million people travel between South and Central Florida annually, largely over highly congested highways. All Aboard Florida is envisioned to transform the way people travel throughout the state, offering a faster, safer, and more enjoyable mode of transportation between Florida’s two largest metropolitan areas.
Targeted to begin service in 2014, the approximately $1 billion project will operate on a regular schedule throughout the day transporting business and leisure passengers between South Florida and Orlando in approximately three hours. This new, convenient, affordable, fast and environmentally friendly intercity passenger rail service is expected to:
(1) CREATE JOBS AND GROW FLORIDA’S ECONOMY—approximately 6,000 direct jobs will be needed to construct the system and over 1,000 more jobs to operate and maintain it; new economic development opportunities also will be created for communities along the route;
(2) PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT—the service will take millions of vehicles off Florida’s roadways, resulting in a reduction in auto emissions and allowing for a far more fuel-efficient alternative to the automobile at this time of escalating gas prices;
(3) ENSURE SPEED AND RELIABILITY—travel time between regions will be approximately three hours and train service will be frequent throughout the day;
(4) PROTECT EXISTING FREIGHT CAPACITY—the new passenger service will not affect freight capacity in the rail corridor, thereby supporting Florida’s role in international commerce and allowing more intermodal freight movements.
By adding an entirely new travel choice, the All Aboard Florida passenger rail service will provide a high-quality experience for travelers. The system will include business- and coach-class service with advance purchase reserved seating, gourmet meals, Wi-Fi, and the ability to work productively throughout the entire trip. In addition, stations in Miami, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach and Orlando mean convenient transfers to Metrorail, Metromover or SunRail, allowing passengers to reach their final destination.
FECI began a feasibility analysis for the project several months ago. Additionally, an investment grade ridership study and engineering work to design the system are underway. Today’s announcement marks the beginning of working in depth with local, state and federal officials, as well as the communities along the route.
Florida East Coast Industries, Inc. (FECI), through its subsidiaries and affiliates, is a major owner and developer of real estate and transportation-related businesses within the State of Florida. Headquartered in Coral Gables, FL, FECI has a rich history dating back over a century when Henry Flagler first established the company and became a pioneer in the development of Florida’s eastern coast. Today, the company owns, manages, develops and leases commercial real estate properties, and its affiliate, the Florida East Coast Railway, L.L.C., owns the railroad over which freight is transported.
All Aboard Florida is an intercity passenger rail project that will connect South Florida to Orlando with intermediate stations in Fort Lauderdale and West Palm Beach. This rail service will give Floridians and visitors a viable transportation alternative to congested highways and airport terminals. All Aboard Florida will provide a high-quality experience for passengers and will be the first privately owned, operated, and maintained passenger rail system in the United States.

131 Comments

  1. yellows2k

    March 22, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    This is excellent news. We will be able to take the train from Downtown Miami to Downtown Ft. Lauderdale and West Palm, as well as Orlando.

  2. langbro

    March 22, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    Their railway system goes to all the best locations in Miami, including Downtown Miami and Ft. Lauderdale, the Airport and Seaport.

  3. langbro

    March 22, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    It will most likely be done in conjunction with this.

  4. yellows2k

    March 22, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    Florida2012, post: 514, member: 17 wrote: New Info: Trains will have a Top Speed of 110 Mph

    where did you see that? It will definitely be pretty fast if they claim that the entire Miami-Orlando trip will take just three hours including stops.

    It is huge because it is going to feed into metrorail and metromover, and increase their passenger counts. That means that the feds will be much more likely to finance new metrorail expansion due to high ridership numbers.

  5. yellows2k

    March 22, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Ok I see where it says 110-mph, very cool. It is great that they already own the tracks, they just need to build a 40-mile section from Cocoa to Orlando.

  6. yellows2k

    March 22, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    Well they say that one of the reasons they are building is because they expect property values to rise near stations, so they will probably be strategically built and placed. more info on their website:

    http://www.allaboardflorida.com/

  7. langbro

    March 22, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    This also makes Rick Scott look like a genius for rejecting high-speed rail.

    Instead of the government building an Orlando-Tampa line that would have been a disaster, we are getting a true high speed line on the route that should have always been built first – Miami-Orlando. FEC will build it faster and run it better than the government could ever hope to.

  8. Afi K. James

    March 22, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    langbro, post: 522, member: 2 wrote: This also makes Rick Scott look like a genius for rejecting high-speed rail.

    Instead of the government building an Orlando-Tampa line that would have been a disaster, we are getting a true high speed line on the route that should have always been built first – Miami-Orlando. FEC will build it faster and run it better than the government could ever hope to.

    Rick Scott did the right thing to kill that High Speed Rail in Florida.

  9. sandman

    March 23, 2012 at 4:13 am

    yellows2k, post: 517, member: 8 wrote: It is great that they already own the tracks, they just need to build a 40-mile section from Cocoa to Orlando.

    How they will build from Cocoa to Orlando is a crucial detail, even if it isn’t that far.

    They must have a plan for this already if they are announcing that they will be open in 2014, but no newspaper is reporting the details.

  10. sandman

    March 23, 2012 at 4:35 am

    As a general comparison, London-Paris is slightly shorter by distance than Orlando-Miami, and the high-speed train takes about 2 hours 20 minutes.

  11. langbro

    March 23, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    An investment-grade ridership study providing more information began a few months ago and should be completed in May 2012.

    No train operator or rolling stock has been selected yet. All Aboard Florida will select modern equipment that utilizes clean-diesel engines that meet stringent Tier 3 federal emission standards.

  12. yellows2k

    March 23, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    1930’s – the Florida East Coast Railway Station in downtown Miami

    NW 3rd Street and 1st Avenue, Miami, Florida

    The FEC downtown Miami station was demolished on November 12, 1963.


    Back to the future?

  13. langbro

    March 23, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    :previous: FEC still owns that land all these years later. The land is currently surface parking lots, adjacent to government center. It will be interesting to see how they develop it.

    Florida2012, post: 534, member: 17 wrote: Thanks For the Info. I don’t want to sound like a Nerd, but I read through all of the documents on the South Fla East Coast Corridor Study, and It said that passanger rail would be possible on the FEC by 2018, and that the plan was for four tracks to be built on the FEC ROW. Wouldnt it Make Sense for Two Tracks to be Express [ Freight + All Aboard Florida] which will bypass the tri rail stations and two tracks for fec tri rail service?

    Maybe, but why would FEC pay for it?

  14. sandman

    March 25, 2012 at 3:38 am

    FEC will be building a nice mixed-use project on the land that they own downtown, with a station for the new high-speed rail to Orlando.

    The rail will run faster than Acela.

    some details are here:

    Private passenger train vision calls for double-tracking Florida East Coast
    TRAINS.com

    March 23, 2012

    MIAMI – Even if 40 miles of new track are not built by 2014, a new privately-run passenger service in Florida may run anyway, the head of passenger rail development for Florida East Coast Industries tells Trains News Wire.

    Eugene Skoropowski, who was named senior vice president of passenger rail development earlier this month, said the railroad would run on the existing FEC from Miami to Cocoa, and until the new extension was completed, it could offer connecting service at Cocoa to Orlando.

    Skoropowski said that while months of studies remain, the company envisions operating trains on one-hour headways. He told Trains columnist Fred Frailey that the existing FEC would need to be double-tracked for the service. “The FEC once was double track, and all the sub-ballast and the bridges are still there,” Skoropowski said…

    Skoropowski, well known in the railroad industry for his successful management of California’s Capitol Corridor passenger service, said he looks at the new service as “Capitol Corridor East” but with a much bigger market.

    …Financing the project may not be as large a hurdle as it would appear. Florida East Coast Industries’ parent Fortress Investment Group has $43.7 billion in assets and raised $4.2 billion in capital during 2011… Florida East Coast Industries has real estate expertise since it also owns Flagler Development Group, one of South Florida’s largest development companies. It owns 5,000 acres of land in the state, including nine acres in downtown Miami that would be used for new development, including a new passenger station.

    Skoropowski said if the project moves ahead, the railroad would likely run trains at 79 mph from Miami to West Palm Beach, 110 mph from West Palm Beach to Cocoa, and 125 mph on the new segment to Orlando. He said two possible alignments are under consideration for the new Orlando route.

    http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?4,2721261,2722298

  15. sandman

    March 25, 2012 at 7:42 pm

    Not necessarily.

    This is an excellent opportunity for Downtown Miami though. FEC’s land extends for five blocks adjacent to the courthouse and government center, which is currently used as surface parking.

  16. langbro

    March 26, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    The Downtown Miami property is located in the heart of the Central Business District. Comprised of five lots totaling 9.4 acres, the property is currently entitled for 2.5 million square feet of mixed-use development. The parcels are situated consecutively along NW 1st Avenue adjacent to the Metrorail, the Steven P. Clark Government, and both the Federal and County Court Houses. With over 22,000 residential units built since 2003, 18.6 million square feet of office space, and 6,000 hotel rooms, Downtown Miami has become a vibrant urban center where a population of 71,000 swells to 194,000 during business hours. Within walking distance of Miami-Dade College, the New World School of Arts, American Airlines Arena, and the Adrienne Arsht Center for the Performing Arts, the property is also at the epicenter of Miami’s cultural district.

  17. langbro

    March 26, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    Definitely. To build 2.5 million square feet on a 9 acre property, the only way to go is way up.

  18. sandman

    March 27, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    Indeed.

    In viewing the stations and surrounding real estate as a potential profit center which can be unlocked by activating the rail lines, FEC has had an epiphany that could well be transformational for South Florida. Privately owned MTR in Hong Kong employs a similar strategy of development surrounding stations, which generates enormous profit.

    The benefits include:

    • Downtown Miami gets a huge boost. The FEC property in Downtown, currently used as surface parking, will see development of up to 2.5 million square feet
    • Metrorail will see increased ridership due to feed from the new rail line. If the FEC strategy of developing stations proves successful, it could be used as a model for metrorail expansion.
    • Commuter rail on the FEC tracks which runs through the most densely populated areas of South Florida gets kick-started with privately financed double-tracking

    FEC is taking very little risk in opening this line, as much of the investment will help them upgrade to a highly efficient cargo rail network in conjunction with rising trade entering South Florida ports, especially Miami.

    Of course, the FEC stations will not be thronged with passengers immediately – this is a long term investment which will take time to be realized. In the long run, increased and more efficient connectivity could lead to rising properties throughout the area, and be highly beneficial to FEC’s parent company’s vast real estate holdings in South Florida.

  19. sandman

    March 28, 2012 at 12:44 am

    There are a lot of different possibilities.

    In fact, this property was the subject of a collegiate competition in 2010, where students from throughout the Miami area competed to present the best idea for this property:

    1

    SOUTH FLORIDA NAIOP COLLEGIATE REAL ESTATE CHALLENGE
    CASE STUDY
    GOVERNMENT CENTER TRANSPORTATION ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT SITE
    DOWNTOWN MIAMI, FLORIDA

    Executive Summary:

    Flagler owns approxi mately a seven-block area in downtown Miami (approxi mately +/- 8 acres),
    adjacent to the Miami-Dade County Government Center. Flagler would like the University
    Teams to evaluate the unique nature and context of the surrounding site and propose a
    development project that would blend well with the existing area, maximizes the value of the
    site, be economically feasible and be capable of receiving approval by permi tting agencies.

    Owner Background:

    Flagler is a private REIT that owns, develops, leases and manages premier assets in the State of
    Florida (Jacksonville, Orlando, Tampa and South Florida). The Company is a full-service
    commercial real estate firm with approxima tely 13 million square feet of Class-A office and
    industrial space and approxi mately 4,400 acres of land. Flagler focuses on two types of
    products, suburban office buildings and industrial warehouses primarily for distribution. Flagler
    is a long-term holder of real estate with a committed vision for its properties; characterized by
    owning properties in master planned business park environments with long term low risk.
    Because this property does not fit the core portfolio model of the REIT, Flagler would consider
    entering into a joint venture for the devel opment of this property or a sale of all, or a portion of
    the site to entertain the highest and best use of the site. Embrace Flagler’s philosophy in your
    approach to the development opportunity of the Property.

    Property Analysis:

    Flagler currently is leasing the property to the Mi a mi Parking Authority and receives
    annual rent payment of approximately $800,000, net of expenses except for Real Estate
    Taxes (approximately $437,000) and Storm wa ter utility fee (approximately $17,000).
    The site is located on the east side of the Miami-Dade County Government Center
    building – the North boundary is NW 8th Street, the South bounda ry is NW 1st Street, the
    East boundary is NW 1st Avenue and the West boundary is the Metro rail line.
    Two existing Metrorail stations serve the property – Government Center on the South
    side of the property and Historic Overtown/Lyric Theater on the North side of the
    property.
    Two existing Metromover station serves the property – Government Center on the
    South side of the property and Arena/State Plaza on the East side of the property.
    The Metromover rail line crosses through the property near NW 5th Street. The
    property c ontrols the air rights above the Metromover line as it crosses east/west over
    the property.
    There is a Metrobus terminal station a pproximately one block to the South of the
    property.
    In addition, the property could serve in the future as a “Grand Central Station” with the
    following possible uses:
    o A future passenger commuter train that would connect from Miami to Orlando
    via Jupiter, and/or from Miami to Jacksonville.
    o There is a right-of-way for a rail line owned by Florida East Coast Railroad (a
    sister company of Flagler) to the north of the site that goes to the Port of Mia mi
    that must remain operational. This right-of-way c ould possibly serve as a future
    public transportation connection to the Port of Miami.
    o Rail connection to Miami International Airport in the future via the Metrorail or
    the Florida East Coast Railroad.

    Transportation Oriented Development. It is not the intent of this ca se study for the
    University teams to spend a great deal of time designing the “Gran Central Station”
    component of the project, but to acknowledge its potential and inc orporate its
    existence in the overall development plan. It is also not necessary to eval uate the need
    for, or the plausibility of the actual rail connections. Recognize that these
    transportation routes and connections are future possibilities and what impact they may
    have on your proposed development plan.

    Zoning and Entitlement Analysis:

    In evaluating the different possible permitted uses of the property, consider that the property is
    located in the Central Business District “CBD” zoning in the City of Miami, and that Miami 21
    zoning guidelines and regulations apply. Pay close attention to the FAR, maximum height and
    floor plates. You may also consider other uses not contemplated in the zoning ordinance that
    might nonetheless enhance the city and provide a greater return. Flagler encourages
    innovative site planning incorporating public areas and providing connectivity to downtown
    elements including government center buildings.

    Assume that the Downtown Development Authority DRI does not apply and the development
    restrictions on the property a re limited to the Miami 21 zoning guidelines a nd regulations as
    described above.

  20. sandman

    March 28, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    I don’t remember the exact number offhand.

  21. sandman

    March 30, 2012 at 1:36 am

    Florida East Coast Railway spokeswoman Christine Barney: The only piece of real estate that could benefit from passenger service, said, is a 9-acre strip of land in Miami’s fast-growing historic downtown, which has 2,500,000 square feet of entitled development rights – about the same size as the new 1 World Trade Center in lower Manhattan.

    Florida East Coast has some of the most sophisticated signaling of any freight railroad in the United States, allowing cargo to travel at up to 60 miles per hour. Most of the track is currently rated for passenger speeds of up to 80 miles per hour, but further upgrades will be needed to bring the line up to the 110 miles

    more details: http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/321480/20120329/florida-east-coast-railway-private-passenger-rail.htm

  22. yellows2k

    March 30, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    FEC officials say their plans do not envision any stops between West Palm Beach and Orlando.

    By minimizing stops, the trains could average speeds of 100 mph, said spokeswoman Christine Barney. That would be far faster than the Amtrak service that connects South Florida and Orlando via an interior route.

    http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/story/fecs-miami-orlando-train-blows-past-treasure-space-coasts

  23. bigswinging

    April 1, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    Flagler encourages innovative site planning incorporating public areas and providing connectivity to downtown elements including government center buildings.

    That is a major point, very good.

  24. sandman

    April 11, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    Tri-rail service on FEC tracks:

    http://faststartplan.sfrta.fl.gov/index.htm

  25. Ocklawaha

    April 13, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    Just a hello from ‘big brother’ to the north, Jacksonville! LOL. I’m one of the owners of the metrojacksonville.com website and wanted to share this with all of you. After a great deal of research, we (metrojacksonville.com) just released a story on the new Miami – Orlando – Tampa/Jacksonville plans of FECI. It’s certainly NOT HSR, but you can bet it is as political as they come and will be used as a tool by both Scott and Mica to advance their anti-Amtrak, anti-HSR agenda.

    There is a lot more in this plan then a simple Miami-Orlando passenger train ride, in fact you might be amazed at the different angles being played out before our eyes.

    Here is where I differ from so many rabid rail proponets… As a retired railroad consultant, I think the HIGH SPEED RAIL project was a horrible dog of a plan, one that would have killed ANY possibility of another HSR project anywhere in the USA in our lifetimes. If anyone is interested, I can give you a laundry list of reasons why.

    This new plan is exactly what the original HSR plan should have been in the first place. A moderately fast, frequent, comfortable, regional corridor passenger train service. READ MORE:

    http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2012-apr-stunning-things-are-happening-as-florida-goes-rail

    http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2012-mar-feci-bringing-private-passenger-rail-to-florida-by-2014

    OCKLAWAHA

  26. Afi K. James

    April 13, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    Ocklawaha, post: 609, member: 36 wrote: Just a hello from ‘big brother’ to the north, Jacksonville! LOL. I’m one of the owners of the metrojacksonville.com website and wanted to share this with all of you. After a great deal of research, we (metrojacksonville.com) just released a story on the new Miami – Orlando – Tampa/Jacksonville plans of FECI. It’s certainly NOT HSR, but you can bet it is as political as they come and will be used as a tool by both Scott and Mica to advance their anti-Amtrak, anti-HSR agenda.

    There is a lot more in this plan then a simple Miami-Orlando passenger train ride, in fact you might be amazed at the different angles being played out before our eyes.

    Here is where I differ from so many rabid rail proponets… As a retired railroad consultant, I think the HIGH SPEED RAIL project was a horrible dog of a plan, one that would have killed ANY possibility of another HSR project anywhere in the USA in our lifetimes. If anyone is interested, I can give you a laundry list of reasons why.

    This new plan is exactly what the original HSR plan should have been in the first place. A moderately fast, frequent, comfortable, regional corridor passenger train service. READ MORE:

    http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2012-apr-stunning-things-are-happening-as-florida-goes-rail

    http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2012-mar-feci-bringing-private-passenger-rail-to-florida-by-2014

    OCKLAWAHA

    Got that right.

    I Think the private sector should be involved in this.

  27. Ocklawaha

    April 14, 2012 at 12:44 am

    Just jump in, click on the link and read the story. This thing is GOING to happen.

    http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2012-apr-stunning-things-are-happening-as-florida-goes-rail

  28. langbro

    April 15, 2012 at 5:56 am

    Ocklawaha, post: 609, member: 36 wrote: Just a hello from ‘big brother’ to the north, Jacksonville! LOL. I’m one of the owners of the metrojacksonville.com website and wanted to share this with all of you. After a great deal of research, we (metrojacksonville.com) just released a story on the new Miami – Orlando – Tampa/Jacksonville plans of FECI. It’s certainly NOT HSR, but you can bet it is as political as they come and will be used as a tool by both Scott and Mica to advance their anti-Amtrak, anti-HSR agenda.

    There is a lot more in this plan then a simple Miami-Orlando passenger train ride, in fact you might be amazed at the different angles being played out before our eyes.

    Here is where I differ from so many rabid rail proponets… As a retired railroad consultant, I think the HIGH SPEED RAIL project was a horrible dog of a plan, one that would have killed ANY possibility of another HSR project anywhere in the USA in our lifetimes. If anyone is interested, I can give you a laundry list of reasons why.

    This new plan is exactly what the original HSR plan should have been in the first place. A moderately fast, frequent, comfortable, regional corridor passenger train service. READ MORE:

    http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2012-apr-stunning-things-are-happening-as-florida-goes-rail

    http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2012-mar-feci-bringing-private-passenger-rail-to-florida-by-2014

    OCKLAWAHA

    Welcome to the forum.

    I agree with you on almost everything.

    However, I am still not sure about the Cocoa-Orlando corridor. They claim that they will be up and running in 2014, which is very ambitious even if no deal with the State is required for the rights to that corridor. They must already have a deal in place for Cocoa-Orlando to be talking such a bold timetable.

  29. sandman

    April 29, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    The feasibility study is due in May.

  30. bigswinging

    May 4, 2012 at 4:38 am

    Maybe we can eventually get a Florida to Cuba rail tunnel.

    Article on how Russia is seriously proposing a rail tunnel between Russia and Alaska:
    http://blogs.voanews.com/russia-watch/2012/04/28/join-russia-and-usa-by-rail-tunnels-under-the-bering-strait/

  31. sandman

    May 9, 2012 at 4:00 am

    Since the downtown Miami mixed-use station seems to be pivotal to the FEC plan, I would imagine that they will want as much passenger rail traffic coming in as possible – including commuter rail…

    Amtrak itself might not bring that much traffic, but they still should try to convince Amtrak to stop in downtown instead of the MIC.

  32. mechanesthesia

    May 12, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    Great news! So happy HSR is back from the dead, but what about the MIC? HSR was planned to be a part of the MIC. The dream of the MIC was to have all forms of transit under one roof. I would like to see it there.

  33. Afi K. James

    May 12, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    mechanesthesia, post: 850, member: 38 wrote: Great news! So happy HSR is back from the dead, but what about the MIC? HSR was planned to be a part of the MIC. The dream of the MIC was to have all forms of transit under one roof. I would like to see it there.

    Thank god the taxpayers won’t have to pay for FEC HSR.

  34. sandman

    May 13, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    Agreed, hopefully they can work a deal to get into the MIC, which is what they want.

  35. sandman

    May 14, 2012 at 3:05 am

    Florida2012, post: 859, member: 17 wrote: ^ what about the Downtown Miami Station?

    Why not both?

  36. yellows2k

    May 14, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    [SIZE=6][SIZE=24px][COLOR=#000000][FONT=inherit]Miami to Orlando train proposal rolling down the planning tracks[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]

    [SIZE=11px][COLOR=#003344][FONT=inherit][SIZE=12px][COLOR=#292727][FONT=inherit]By Dan Tracy, Orlando Sentinel[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]

    [SIZE=12px][COLOR=#dd5200][FONT=inherit]4:44 p.m. EST, May 14, 2012[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

    [FONT=inherit]A [COLOR=#004466][FONT=inherit]Coral Gables development company expects to have a study completed next month that could determine whether it builds a privately funded $1 billion train linking Miami with Orlando.[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]

    [FONT=inherit]If the ridership study finds enough demand, [COLOR=#004466][FONT=inherit]Florida East Coast Industries could begin construction next year, Husein Cumber, executive vice president of Florida East Coast Railway, an affiliate of FECI, said Monday.[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]

    [FONT=inherit][/FONT]

    [FONT=inherit]“Everything right now is trending in the right direction,” he said.[/FONT]

    [FONT=inherit]Cumber spoke to a gathering of Central Florida government and real estate officials at the offices of MetroPlan, which sets transportation policy in Orange, Seminole and Osceola counties.[/FONT]

    [FONT=inherit]So far, Cumber said, four stops appear certain for the train that has been dubbed All Aboard Florida: Miami, [COLOR=#004466][FONT=inherit]Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach and Orlando. The exact locations remain uncertain, except for Miami, where FECI owns nine acres downtown.[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]

    [FONT=inherit]Missing as a possible stop is Cocoa, where the proposed train would veer west for [COLOR=#004466][FONT=inherit]Orlando. Bob Kamm, director of the Space Coast Transportation Planning Organization in Viera, said Brevard County officials want to know if they will have any involvement with the system.[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]

    [FONT=inherit]“All we would see is the negatives … if you are just blowing through and waving as you go by,” Kamm said.[/FONT]

    [FONT=inherit]Cumber said the ridership study would determine if there is a Cocoa stop, but he added that the train’s biggest appeal is that it would be faster to ride it to Miami or Orlando than drive a car. The projected travel time is three hours and two minutes, he said, compared with about four hours by auto.[/FONT]

    [FONT=inherit]Previous studies of the Miami-Orlando route by backers of an ill-fated high-speed train had pegged the Cocoa segment as potentially lucrative because it could carry travelers from [COLOR=#004466][FONT=inherit]Orlando International Airportto the cruise ships at Port Canaveral.[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]

    [FONT=inherit]Cumber said his group intends to meet with Port Canaveral officials next month and OIA administrators this week.[/FONT]

    [FONT=inherit]FECI, which also does business as Flagler, owns property throughout Florida, including the rail corridor from Miami to [COLOR=#004466][FONT=inherit]Jacksonville along the East Coast. FECR carries freight on the lines, but it could be upgraded for passenger trains, Cumber said.[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]

    [FONT=inherit]It remains unclear the route the train would take from Cocoa to Orlando, although the most logical one would be publicly owned land along the BeachLine Expressway jointly operated by the state and the Orlando Orange County Expressway Authority.[/FONT]

    [FONT=inherit][FONT=inherit][EMAIL='dltracy@tribune.com'][COLOR=#004466][FONT=inherit]dltracy@tribune.com[/EMAIL] or 407-420-5444.[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-05-14/business/os-railroad-private-metroplan-20120514_1_ridership-study-miami-orlando-route-passenger-trains

  37. langbro

    May 15, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    yellows2k, post: 872, member: 8 wrote:

    The projected travel time is three hours and two minutes, he said, compared with about four hours by auto.

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-05-14/business/os-railroad-private-metroplan-20120514_1_ridership-study-miami-orlando-route-passenger-trains

    Three hours and two minutes….

  38. langbro

    May 17, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    More details released today:

    Miami to Orlando Rail Service on Track for 2014

    Thursday, May 17, 2012

    Spokesperson Christine Barney says the company is confident it will start rolling in 2 years time.

    The company says it will cost a billion dollars to build the final 40 miles between Cocoa and Orlando, and modify the existing freight track to accommodate the new service, called All Aboard Florida.

    “We’re already looking at selecting the operators, picking the actual trains, you know, we’re moving very quickly,” she says.

    “We understand that if the project is going to move forward things have to happen quickly, but we think that’s a reasonable expectation.”

    [FONT=arial]The service could run up to 14 times a day. [/FONT]

    [SIZE=4][FONT=arial]http://www.wmfe.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=12779&news_iv_ctrl=1041[/FONT][/SIZE]

  39. langbro

    May 18, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    more:

    [All Aboard Florida Spokesman] Barney says for the service to be a success, it has to run frequently.

    “If you think about the successful rail corridors like in the North East, you can go from New York to Washington, and if you get to the station at 10.15, you’ve missed your 10, but there’s another train at 11,” says Barney.

    She says the aim is to have between 12 and 14 trains running every day.

    The train will stop in West Palm Beach and Fort Lauderdale, and Barney says there could also be the potential to link up to airports and seaports, including Port Canaveral and Orlando International Airport.

    Stan Thornton, project Liaison Manager for the Greater Orlando Aviation Authority, says the airport is ready to connect to rail- whether it’s the SunRail commuter train set to start rolling in 2014, light rail, or an intercity service.

    “We’ve always had rail in our master planning,” says Thornton.

    “When high speed rail was getting serious we went ahead and laid out how some of the different types of rail would get into here.”

    Thornton says the airport is talking to Florida East Coast Industries about their plans.

    http://transportationnation.org/2012/05/18/private-rail-company-says-orlando-to-miami-service-possible-in-two-years-2/

  40. yellows2k

    June 4, 2012 at 1:48 am

    good thing Florida doesn’t need taxpayer dollars or votes


    A majority of voters no longer support building a $68 billion high-speed passenger rail system connecting California’s population centers, a new poll shows….

    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-06-03/california-high-speed-rail-losing-support-poll-shows

  41. Afi K. James

    June 4, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    yellows2k, post: 1036, member: 8 wrote: good thing Florida doesn’t need taxpayer dollars or votes

    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-06-03/california-high-speed-rail-losing-support-poll-shows

    Thank god for that.

  42. langbro

    June 12, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    [SIZE=16px]Request for Proposals[/SIZE]

    Florida East Coast Industries, Inc. (“FECI”), the owner of Florida’s premier passenger rail corridor, is developing a privately owned, operated and maintained passenger rail service to connect South Florida and Orlando. FECI is seeking the services of a firm with the necessary qualifications and expertise to submit a proposal in response to this Solicitation to provide Environmental Engineering & Permitting for the proposed passenger rail corridor.

    The Environmental RFP will be made available to firms upon completion of an NDA.

    For the NDA and instructions for completion, [COLOR=#da7d01]click here.[/COLOR]

  43. yellows2k

    June 13, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    [FONT=Verdana]Week of June 14, 2012[/FONT]

    [FONT=Georgia]New Miami-Orlando rail link stokes fire[/FONT]
    [FONT=Georgia]By Scott Blake[/FONT]
    [FONT=Veranda] The local company planning a passenger rail linking Miami to Orlando expects to complete “due diligence” studies in coming weeks so that it can move ahead with work to have the system operating sometime in 2014, project officials said this week.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Veranda] From a terminal in downtown Miami, the system would stretch about 200 miles north along the state’s East Coast. The Miami terminal probably would be built on company property near Government Center.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Veranda] In coming weeks, the company expects the results of engineering, environmental and ridership studies. One thing the engineering study will determine will be which parts of the existing rail line that are curved will need to be straightened to enhance the speed and safety of the passenger trains, Ms. Barney.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Veranda] At this point, plans call for a double-track system to accommodate both freight and passenger service.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Veranda] Moreover, she said, the route where new tracks will be built from Cocoa to Orlando already is land “designated for public use.”[/FONT]

    http://miamitodaynews.com/news/120614/story6.shtml

  44. yellows2k

    June 20, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    Passenger Train Idea Moves Florida Cities’ Leaders

    Friday, June 15, 2012

    By: Nicole Creston

    June 15, 2012 | WMFE – Although the idea of a high-speed rail linking Tampa, Orlando and Miami was scuttled when Governor Rick Scott refused its federal funding, a private company’s “passenger rail” proposal is causing a buzz among the leaders of Florida’s larger cities. At the 80th annual US Mayors Conference in Orlando, Mayor Buddy Dyer spoke about the passenger rail’s possibilities.

    [SIZE=10px][Image: FEC freight train][/SIZE]

    The private company Florida East Coast Railway, or FEC, wants to run passenger trains between South Florida and Orlando by 2014. The company plans to add a new leg of tracks inland to Orlando its existing 200 miles of track that stretch up the coast.

    At the US Mayor’s Conference in Orlando, Mayor Buddy Dyer headed up a meeting about the passenger rail’s future with Florida’s Urban Partnership.

    “That’s the mayors of the seven largest cities in the state of Florida,” explains Dyer, “and FEC made a presentation on what they’re attempting to do in a very positive manner, and very well-received by all the mayors.”

    FEC says the passenger trains could eventually extend to Tampa and Jacksonville. The company says moving passengers won’t interfere with its freight business, and that the trip from the Miami area to Orlando will take about three hours.

    Quips Dyer about the passenger train: “I think that has real legs to it.”

    http://www.wmfe.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=12937&news_iv_ctrl=1041

  45. yellows2k

    June 20, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    [SIZE=26px]Mica Sets High-Speed Approval for Miami-Orlando Private Rail Service[/SIZE]

    06/18/12
    Washington, DC – Promising to cut through the permitting red tape, U.S. Rep. John L. Mica (R-FL) is putting the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers on notice this week that he expects the agency to fast track the approval of permits for privately sponsored passenger rail service over an existing rail corridor and transportation right-of-way between Miami and Orlando.
    In a letter today to Assistant Secretary of the Army (Civil Works) Jo Ellen Darcy, Mica followed up on discussions with the Corps in Washington and Jacksonville about shrinking the approval schedule and expediting the private sector rail project.
    “With the right-of-way already in place there is no reason to drag this out,” Mica said. “This should not be a bureaucratic process. Imagine the government actually acting quickly to put people to work, expand private investment in a billion-dollar infrastructure project, and get cars off our congested highways.”
    Mica recently met with Corps of Engineers officials to discuss fast forwarding the required environmental reviews that will allow the project to proceed, and work on a plan that could bring the route into service by early 2015. Mica expects the Corps’ environmental review and permitting process to be completed within 12 months, since the planned route travels over an existing rail right-of-way and other existing transportation corridors.
    The “All Aboard Florida” passenger rail project sponsored by Florida East Coast Industries will provide frequent service between Orlando and Miami. The 230-mile distance will be covered in approximately three hours at speeds of up to 110 mph.
    “Hopefully we can fast forward this private sector passenger rail project that will not cost the taxpayers a penny,” added Mica, who chairs the U.S. House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure. “Restoring passenger rail service along this historic corridor will bring an economic boost to Florida’s East Coast and the Orlando area, and will do so without any federal grants and without leaving Florida taxpayers on the hook.”

    http://mica.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=25&itemid=1199

  46. yellows2k

    June 21, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    6/20/2012 – Orlando International Airport Moves Closer to Agreement with All Aboard Florida

    ORLANDO, FL – Orlando International Airport (MCO) may soon be connected to Miami by rail. In discussions held at the June meeting of the Greater Orlando Aviation Authority, the Board was asked to consider a request by Florida East Coast Industries (FECI) to develop the first passenger rail service from MCO to Miami by 2015.

    Privately-owned FECI plans to add approximately 40 miles of new track that will link Orlando to the company’s 200 miles of rail infrastructure already in place. The passenger rail service will be called All Aboard Florida.

    “We view the potential opportunity as positive news because it follows our master and strategic plans. The addition of rail, which has always been viewed as significant, will make Orlando International Airport truly an intermodal gateway,” says Phil Brown, Executive Director Orlando International Airport.

    Demonstrating a vision for the future, the Greater Orlando Aviation Authority, which operates Orlando International Airport, has already invested in infrastructure for a station that could accommodate up to four rail systems. In discussing the integration of rail Brown explained, “We have planned our intermodal facility in a central location to service both the north and the future south terminal and All Aboard Florida is vying to be the first rail system to operate from it.”

    The station as proposed would incorporate the airport’s design concept of The Orlando Experience™ with the prevailing use of light, water, gardens and open spaces for meetings and retail concessions.

    In addition to other proposed community rail systems, including SunRail, the airport’s plans include an automated people mover that would provide passengers direct access from the current North Terminal to future expansion including additional aircraft gates to the South. SunRail will be Central Florida’s first commuter rail line connecting four counties and spanning 61.5 miles including a future connection to Orlando International Airport.

    According to FECI, All Aboard Florida will create jobs and stimulate local economies. The company estimates the project will create about 6,000 construction jobs and 1,000 permanent jobs for Florida workers.

    After considering FECI’s proposal, the Board approved the request and authorized the Executive Director to develop an agreement with FECI to provide commercial passenger rail service to Orlando International Airport’s Intermodal Facility to be presented to the Aviation Authority Board.

    http://www.orlandoairports.net/press/2012/20120620.htm

  47. yellows2k

    June 24, 2012 at 3:20 am

    [SIZE=6][SIZE=23px]Train connecting Orlando, Miami closer to reality[/SIZE][/SIZE]

    http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2012/6/22/orlando_miami_train_.html

  48. Sean

    June 24, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    Thanks langbro
    Having a station downtown and another at the airport would be awkward though, and both would probably have to be terminals. it seems unlikely to me that the FEC would serve Miami International Airport, nor should they want to.

  49. yellows2k

    June 26, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    Another article today about this:

    OIA [Orlando International Airport] has taken the first tentative steps by entering into an exclusive 60-day negotiating period with All Aboard Florida, a [FONT=inherit]Coral Gables company studying whether to build a $1 billion passenger train system between the Orlando airport and Miami.[/FONT]

    All Aboard Florida spokeswoman Christine Barney would not discuss specifics but did confirm talks are under way. All Aboard Florida is supported byFlorida East Coast Industries Inc., which is relying on the expertise and holdings of one its affiliates, Florida East Coast Railway.

    Brown said preliminary talks have centered on All Aboard Florida paying for the station south of the existing terminal near what is now a parking lot for people waiting for planes to land.

    The airport, in turn, would be responsible for building a mile-long, elevated monorail to serve the station, at a cost of $181.4 million. OIA also would be responsible for roads and other infrastructure costs of about $78 million.

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-06-25/business/os-airport-expansion-train-20120625_1_rental-car-companies-orlando-airport-airport-director

  50. yellows2k

    June 27, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    All Aboard Florida is scheduled to brief the City of Miami Commission on their plans tomorrow.

    The only known station so far is in Downtown Miami next to government center, but the company is scouting for sites in Ft Lauderdale and Palm Beach:
    http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/news/2012/06/27/all-aboard-florida-scouting-possible.html

  51. yellows2k

    June 28, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    Breaking news:
    :banana:

    Summary:

    -FEC plans to build a “Grand” central station on 9 acres in downtown Miami, possibly including offices, retail , hotel etc.

    -An announcement on the rail cars will be made within 60 days. An announcement of a company helping to plan the project is coming “soon”

    -FEC hopes to begin construction in early 2013

    [SIZE=6][FONT=Droid-Serif][SIZE=23px]FECI planning Grand destination on downtown Miami land[/SIZE][/SIZE][/FONT]

    [SIZE=3][COLOR=#333333][SIZE=13px]South Florida Business Journal by Oscar Pedro Musibay, Reporter[/SIZE][/SIZE][/COLOR]

    [COLOR=#333333][SIZE=13px]Date: Thursday, June 28, 2012, 3:05pm EDT[/SIZE][/COLOR]

    Florida East Coast Industries wants develop all of the nine acres it owns in downtown Miami as part of its plan to create a Grand Central Station for passenger service from Miami to Orlando.

    http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/news/2012/06/28/feci-planning-grand-destination-on.html

  52. sandman

    June 29, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    This station could also theoretically be a potential destination resort (casino) site.

    FEC has enough land to go for a SAP under Miami 21. They can build a much larger project here than Brickell CitiCentre, which is building well below max allowance.

  53. mechanesthesia

    June 29, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    Yay! More downtown development :)

  54. bigswinging

    June 29, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    Florida2012, post: 1378, member: 17 wrote: Any idea’s if they will provide a part of the station for Future Tri-Rail use? And if their will be any sort of connection to government center and Miami Intermodal Center?

    its right across from govt center

  55. sandman

    July 2, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    Please see the new thread that will cover the proposed downtown Miami station in the real estate forum:

    FEC Mixed-Use Downtown Miami Rail Station | Proposed

    This thread will continue to cover the actual rail proposal.

  56. sandman

    July 2, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    The latest information that we have received from Husein Cumber, EVP at Florida East Coast Railway. This information is being reported exclusively on thenextmiami.com :

    -Efforts continue for a local commuter rail line on these same tracks within South Florida, planned by SFRTA and FDOT

    -A ridership study has now been complete. The study was peer reviewed by a separate firm

    -FEC is meeting today and tomorrow (Monday July 2, and Tuesday July 3) with rolling stock providers. An announcement regarding which cars have been chosen should be made within the next 60 days

    -FEC plans to offer direct conections to Metrorail, Metromover, and the Wave in Ft. Lauderdale. There will also be express connections to Tri-rail and Amtrak.

    -FEC will be meeting with City of Miami staff in July to discuss proposed downtown Miami mixed-use station

    -FEC is hiring a “major, well known international planning firm” to design the downtown Miami station which will be the most important station and focal point of the line

    A timeline of upcoming milestones:

    -Ridership, environmental and engineering reports complete this week.
    -Corridor route and funding 3Q-4Q 2012
    -Construction early 2013

  57. sandman

    July 3, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    If you are asking about the actual cars, we will know pretty soon.

  58. langbro

    July 9, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    Minutes from the presntation that All Aboard florida made to the Broward MPO on May 10, 2012:

    Husein Cumber, representing Florida East Coast (FEC) Industries, showed a PowerPoint
    presentation on the All Aboard Florida program. He explained that Florida East Coast
    Industries is the parent company of Flagler Development, which is the FEC Railway’s
    sister real estate company. Flagler Development is driving the project because it is not a
    freight rail project.

    Mr. Cumber noted that passenger service on the FEC railway ended in the late 1960s.
    Since that time, there have been continuing discussions of providing passenger service
    once more along the FEC corridor. FEC began investigating this opportunity internally
    between Miami and Orlando to determine whether or not the right-of-way could be leveraged. They arrived at the conclusion that they could construct the first privately
    operated, owned, and maintained passenger rail system in the U.S.

    The system would travel 240 miles and would connect Miami and Orlando, with
    intermediate stops in Fort Lauderdale and West Palm Beach. The passenger system
    would also provide frequent round-trip service throughout the day, with trains running once
    per hour or slightly less often. There would be significant transit-oriented development
    opportunities at the four stations in the system.

    Mr. Cumber stated that FEC is currently reaching out to stakeholders such as the MPO as
    part of the project’s due diligence phase. Subsequent phases include engineering, an
    investment-grade ridership study, and environmental permitting. FEC has determined the
    route alignment and is reaching out to public agencies that own rights-of-way, as well as
    private landowners. They are identifying potential station locations and are studying
    existing rolling stock technology that can travel at a speed of up to 125 miles per hour.
    The goal is for the system to become operational in 2014. The cost of the project is
    approximately $1 billion, including new tracks, road crossings, and signal updates. Mr.
    Cumber noted that FEC is not asking for State or federal grant money to fund the project.
    Commissioner Varsallone asked how this development would affect the municipalities in
    which the stops are located. Mr. Cumber explained that the stations would go through the
    regular city and County permitting processes, and the transit-oriented development would
    fit into the fabric of the surrounding area. Travelers would be able to quickly move out of
    stations into the local areas, or would be able to leave the platform and easily access
    another mode of transportation if desired.

    Commissioner Garcia asked if the system would move cargo as well as people. Mr.
    Cumber said roughly 14 freight trains a day operate between Miami and Jacksonville at
    present; this would not be displaced by the proposed system.

    Commissioner Brummer emphasized the need to accommodate local service, noting that
    the proposed service would not provide anything for the cities with no stops along its route.
    Mr. Cumber said the goal of the project was not to slow the ongoing discussions of
    commuter rail service, but to encourage this project as well, as it would directly tie into the
    ridership of the Miami-Orlando service. It is in FEC’s best interest to make sure the
    capacity exists for both systems.

    Vice Chair Rodstrom requested confirmation that the proposed service would be privately
    funded and would not preclude the development of commuter/ passenger rail with multiple
    stops. Mr. Cumber confirmed this.

    Commissioner Johnson asked what the cost to passengers would be for this service. Mr.
    Cumber said he could not estimate this before the investment-grade ridership study is
    complete; however, he felt it would need to be competitive with the airfare between the two
    regions, as well as the overall cost of travel.

    Vice Chair Rodstrom asked what fuel would be used by the rolling stock. Mr. Cumber said
    it would be powered by diesel, as electric trains would require overhead infrastructure.
    Chair Blattner advised that FEC should consider coordinating its improvements with the
    MPO’s 2035 Long Range Transportation Plan (LRTP), as there are plans for road
    improvements that could affect crossings. Mr. Cumber suggested that there could be a
    technical team meeting between FEC and MPO Staff to discuss the details of the LRTP
    and an ideal construction schedule.

    Mr. Stuart encouraged all the members to take this information back to their respective
    municipal boards.

    State Representative Gwyndolyn Clarke-Reed noted that high-speed rail would decrease
    the travel time more dramatically. She expressed concern that the proposed service would
    not be sufficiently faster than traveling by car to make a great difference for travelers. She
    pointed out that freight rail would take priority on the available tracks, which would affect
    travel times as well.

    Chair Blattner requested that Councilmember Caletka provide a brief report on the recent
    MPOAC meeting at this time. Councilmember Caletka said FDOT had reiterated their
    desire to turn each urbanized area into a single MPO, which would combine the MiamiDade, Broward, and West Palm Beach MPOs into a single entity; however, they realized
    there would not be the necessary votes to make this change at present. The MPOAC also
    provided the Governor with six alternative funding methods for highways, which are more
    user-based than gas tax-based.

    http://www.browardmpo.org/system/meeting/Agenda_Item_R-24.pdf

  59. langbro

    July 10, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    Calendar : Coordination Meeting with FEC

    [SIZE=4][B]FRIDAY, JULY 13, 2012[/B]

    [LEFT][LEFT][COLOR=#898888][FONT=Century Gothic][B]TIME[/B]

    2:00 pm – 3:30pm[/LEFT]

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    MetroPlan Orlando Office (Board Room)
    315 East Robinson Street, Suite 355
    Orlando, Florida 32801[/LEFT]

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    RSVP for this Event[/LEFT]

    [B]EVENT DESCRIPTION[/B]

    Representatives from Florida East Coast Railway (FEC) will be providing an update on its proposed Orlando-Miami passenger rail service line to several transportation industry experts. This meeting is being posted in compliance with Florida’s Government in the Sunshine laws, as two or more MetroPlan Orlando committee members may be in attendance.

    http://www.metroplanorlando.com/calendar/details/coordination-meeting-with-fec-2012-07-13/

    [/LEFT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT]

  60. langbro

    July 16, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    FEC exec Husein Cumber will make a presentation before the Dade County Beacon Council on August 8.

  61. sandman

    July 16, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    All Aboard Florida welcome Eugene Skoropowski: http://www.allaboardflorida.com/aaf-team

    FEC will seek permits from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to secure right-of-way to lay its 40-mile track from Cocoa to Orlando International Airport along the Beachline Expressway: http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/print-edition/2012/07/13/all-aboard-florida-moving-ahead-with.html

  62. Afi K. James

    July 17, 2012 at 1:23 am

    Finally the free market can grow the economy.

  63. yellows2k

    July 25, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    Commuter rail project on FEC tracks gains steam:
    http://miamitodaynews.com/news/120726/story7.shtml

  64. sandman

    July 30, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    As posted in the other thread:
    FEC Mixed-Use Downtown Miami Rail Station | Proposed

    Skidmore, Owings & Merrill have been hired to plan the stations for All Aboard Florida.

  65. langbro

    August 1, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    [SIZE=30px]John Flint[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=20px]Senior Vice President of Rail Infrastructure[/SIZE]

    All Aboard Florida is pleased to announce the addition of John Flint to the team as Senior Vice President of Rail Infrastructure. In this role he will focus on designing, engineering and constructing the rail system and station platforms. John will also help manage the environmental permitting process.

    John has more than 35 years of experience in transportation and engineering consulting, going back to his days in Conrail’s railroad engineering management training program. That position taught John the rail business from the bottom up, including railroad operations, inspection, maintenance and design. His expertise has evolved to providing transportation planning, feasibility studies, and preliminary and final engineering, which has made John a recognized leader overseeing the construction of complex multi-modal transportation projects.

    John comes to All Aboard Florida after four years with T. Y. Lin International, a globally recognized full-service infrastructure consulting firm with a projects resume that includes the historic Hoover Dam Bypass Bridge; Miami International Airport’s South Terminal and Automated People Mover system; San Francisco Bay area’s underground BART and MUNI stations; and the Chicago Transit Authority’s Red Line Assignment, for which John served as Quality Manger.

    We are excited to add John to our stellar team of esteemed industry leaders whose expertise will serve to make All Aboard Florida the country’s premier passenger rail system. [COLOR=#da7d01]Click here to read the rest of his biography.[/COLOR]

  66. langbro

    August 3, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    More details leaking out about this project:

    -FECI has suggested two possible station locations to West Palm Beach officials. This first is on Quadrille Boulevard between Clematis and Banyan Street, currently a parking garage. The second is along Rosemary Avenue between third and seventh avenue, currently leased to the salvation army

    -No details on Ft. Lauderdale station, but a Broward MPO spokesman said that land adjacent to the Broward Central Bus Terminal might be ideal, and the MPO had already dedicated $8 million for a bus station and streetcar facility at that site

    -The head of Tri-Rail says that the state of Florida should use opportunity to use the FECI request for right-of-way to Orlando as leverage to open the South Florida tracks for commuter service

    all above per SFBJ

  67. langbro

    August 8, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    langbro, post: 1519, member: 2 wrote: FEC exec Husein Cumber will make a presentation before the Dade County Beacon Council on August 8.

    At the presentation this morning, Cumber detailed how the project will be financed with a mix of equity and debt.

    More coverage by the DBR:
    http://www.dailybusinessreview.com/PubArticleDBR.jsp?id=1202566584479&1_billion_passenger_rail_project_to_be_funded_with_debt_equity_financing

  68. yellows2k

    August 8, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    [SIZE=26px]Details for Miami-Orlando rail released[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=18px]1 train would run every hour from 6 a.m. – 9 p.m.[/SIZE]

    http://www.local10.com/news/money/Details-for-Miami-Orlando-rail-released/-/1717308/16014750/-/n60ypl/-/index.html

  69. yellows2k

    August 8, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    [SIZE=28px]Railway company to build passenger service from Miami to Orlando[/SIZE]
    MIAMI | Wed Aug 8, 2012 6:25pm EDT

    6:25pm EDT
    By David Adams
    MIAMI (Reuters) – A Miami real estate and transportation company announced Wednesday that it plans to go ahead with a $1 billion project to build a privately run passenger train service between Miami and Orlando to begin operations by the end of 2014.

    Florida East Coast Industries said its “All Aboard Florida” project is financially viable without any need for federal and state grants or subsidies.

    “After completing our due diligence we have decided to go through with it,” said Husein Cumber, vice president of corporate development at Florida East Coast Railway, which operates the company’s existing freight line.

    Construction would begin in early 2013, Cumber said, and when completed the new service would be the only privately run, non-subsidized passenger rail link between two major cities in the United States. A similar private scheme has been proposed in Texas to link Houston and Dallas.

    The $1 billion cost includes a set of 10 diesel-powered trains with a 400-seat capacity offering an hourly service with First-class and Business-class seating, gourmet dining and Wi-Fi, as well as new tracks and stations in downtown Miami, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach and the Orlando airport.

    FECI plans to double-track its existing line along a 100-foot (30-meter) wide corridor that runs most of the 230-mile route between Miami and Orlando, adding an extension for a section from the coast inland to Orlando.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/08/us-usa-florida-rail-idUSBRE8771MS20120808

  70. Afi K. James

    August 8, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    yellows2k, post: 1678, member: 8 wrote: [SIZE=26px]Details for Miami-Orlando rail released[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=18px]1 train would run every hour from 6 a.m. – 9 p.m.[/SIZE]

    http://www.local10.com/news/money/Details-for-Miami-Orlando-rail-released/-/1717308/16014750/-/n60ypl/-/index.html

    This is the truth here.

  71. sandman

    August 16, 2012 at 8:15 pm

  72. Brickellite

    August 16, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    Pathetic. Almost as slow as Tri-Rail (1:45), and with the mia to orl ticket estimate increasing from 50-60 (competative with driving) to 85-100 (competitive with airfare), it’s scaling back as fast as any typical florida pie in the sky.

  73. yellows2k

    August 17, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    [SIZE=30px]P. Michael Reininger[/SIZE]

    [COLOR=#da7d01]

    [/COLOR]
    [SIZE=20px]Executive Vice President[/SIZE]

    All Aboard Florida is pleased to announce the addition of P. Michael Reininger as Executive Vice President.
    Michael brings nearly 30 years of new business development, master planning and brand management expertise to All Aboard Florida. His resume includes work on projects ranging from integrated urban developments to resort hotels and destination travel programs. Moreover, his background as an architect underlies his inherent ability to build “from the ground up,” a capability he has employed to devise innovative business planning and marketing frameworks for globally recognized ventures in the transportation and hospitality arenas.
    “Mike has uniquely applicable experiences in transit station planning, project management and branding,” said Mr. Vincent Signorello, president of Florida East Coast Industries, Inc., the parent company of All Aboard Florida. Before joining All Aboard Florida, Michael was executive vice president and chief development officer for AECOM, a global provider of professional technical and management support services; the Master Developer for the Denver Union Station transit-oriented development project; and built a successful track record of master planning and brand development for subsidiaries of The Walt Disney Company.
    Michael will be a driving force behind All Aboard Florida’s progress and growth in the years to come, and we are thrilled to have him on our team. [COLOR=#da7d01]Click here to read the rest of his biography.[/COLOR]

  74. langbro

    August 17, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    Brickellite, post: 1737, member: 55 wrote: Pathetic. Almost as slow as Tri-Rail (1:45), and with the mia to orl ticket estimate increasing from 50-60 (competative with driving) to 85-100 (competitive with airfare), it’s scaling back as fast as any typical florida pie in the sky.

    Even if you put a maglev on these tracks, the travel time on Miami-WPB would be pretty much the same – any train on those tracks must keep to a lower speed due to grade crossings.

    Ticket prices will vary based on advance purchase, but no one ever claimed the avg ticket price would be $50-60.

  75. Brickellite

    August 17, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    Tri-Rail crosses many of its grade crossings at 79 where the gates meet a certain criteria. Theres no reason aaf cant up the gates to par to allow it to cross most or all at full speed. Hollywood is the only exception where all trains are slowed to 40 due to a local ordInance, and not only at crossings.

  76. langbro

    August 17, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    Brickellite, post: 1747, member: 55 wrote: Tri-Rail crosses many of its grade crossings at 79 where the gates meet a certain criteria. Theres no reason aaf cant up the gates to par to allow it to cross most or all at full speed. Hollywood is the only exception where all trains are slowed to 40 due to a local ordInance, and not only at crossings.

    [INDENT][FONT=Georgia]It is about 70 miles from gov’t center in downtown Miami to downtown WPB.

    Even if you get up to the max speed of 79 mph, your average speed will end up being much lower. In addition, you need to allow for much longer stops at the Lauderdale and West Palm stations than tri-rail – long distance travelers with lots of luggage.

    AAF obviously wants the trip to be as quick as possible, but even with a maglev on these tracks it would still take about the same amount of time from miami-wpb.[/INDENT][/FONT]

  77. UMdev

    August 17, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    So it’s not cheaper, it’s not faster (actually it’s probably a lot longer once you factor in the drive time to the train station), and were talking about connecting places that don’t have great local public transportation so you’ll still need to figure out how to get around once you get there.

    Connecting downtown Miami to Midtown and North Miami would be great, but I don’t see much in this.

  78. yellows2k

    August 22, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    see below

  79. yellows2k

    August 22, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    This detailed analysis says that by conservative estimates they will need about 3 million annual trips to break even:
    http://reasonrail.blogspot.com/2012/03/what-ridership-does-all-aboard-florida.html

    infographic

  80. Afi K. James

    August 23, 2012 at 12:32 am

    yellows2k, post: 1773, member: 8 wrote: This detailed analysis says that by conservative estimates they will need about 3 million annual trips to break even:
    http://reasonrail.blogspot.com/2012/03/what-ridership-does-all-aboard-florida.html

    Got that right.

  81. yellows2k

    September 2, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    Final 40 miles a problem for Miami-to-Orlando train builders
    [SIZE=11px][COLOR=#003344][FONT=inherit][SIZE=12px][COLOR=#292727][FONT=inherit]5:51 p.m. EST, August 31, 2012|By Dan Tracy, Orlando Sentinel[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]

    [FONT=inherit]The would-be builders of a $1 billion train between Miami and [COLOR=#004466][FONT=inherit]Orlando International Airport know what path it would follow for the first 200 miles because they already own the tracks.[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]

    [FONT=inherit]But the last 40 miles could be a problem.[/FONT]

    [FONT=inherit]Three government agencies and a church own land on that last leg between Cocoa and the airport. The train’s backers essentially are seeking the property for free or at little cost because they contend their proposal would serve a public good.[/FONT]
    [FONT=inherit][/FONT]

    [FONT=inherit]All Aboard Florida, which would run the privately financed train for [COLOR=#004466][FONT=inherit]Florida East Coast Industries of Coral Gables, also must overcome the complaints of Cocoa officials who want a stop on the route but have been rebuffed.[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]

    [FONT=inherit]“They don’t want to be distracted from their mission [of [COLOR=#004466][FONT=inherit]Miami to Orlando],” said Bob Kamm, director of the Space Coast Transportation Planning Organization.[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]

    [FONT=inherit]All Aboard Florida spokeswoman Stacey Rinaldi said in an email that only four stops are planned for the train: downtown Miami, [COLOR=#004466][FONT=inherit]Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach and Orlando’s airport.[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]

    [FONT=inherit]Previously, train officials said speed was a primary attraction of the train and an additional stop in Cocoa would slow down the anticipated three-hour trip.[/FONT]

    [FONT=inherit]A stop for Cocoa also would be opposed by the Orlando-Orange County Expressway Authority, one of the four property owners in talks with All Aboard Florida. The others are the state, the airport and the Mormon Church.[/FONT]
    [FONT=inherit]The expressway authority owns much of the BeachLine Expressway, where the right of way is the most logical place for the train to lay tracks. The state also owns parts of the road.[/FONT]

    [FONT=inherit]A depot in Cocoa could end up costing the expressway money because it could siphon toll-paying motorists off the road and onto the train, said agency director Max Crumit. That likely would be a deal breaker between the authority and the train, he said.[/FONT]

    [FONT=inherit]“It would be a huge competitor,” Crumit said.[/FONT]

    [FONT=inherit]Crumit has talked informally with All Aboard Florida officials and said they are seeking land for a “nominal amount,” likely in the form of a long-term lease for a few dollars a year. Land is available, he said, south of the toll road.[/FONT]

    [FONT=inherit]“I’ll do whatever I can within the bounds of protecting our bondholders and customers to help them,” Crumit said.[/FONT]

    [FONT=inherit]Crumit said the state likely will take the lead in talks with All Aboard Florida about the BeachLine corridor. [COLOR=#004466][FONT=inherit]Florida Department of Transportation spokesman Dick Kane confirmed his agency would handle the negotiations.[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]

    [FONT=inherit]Train officials need to wrap up the talks because they have set an ambitious startup date of 2014 for the only passenger train in the nation that would not be government-subsidized.[/FONT]

    [FONT=inherit][/FONT]
    [SIZE=14px][FONT=inherit]Discussions with the airport have been going slower than anticipated. Both sides originally set out to reach an agreement within 60 days. That had to be extended another two months at an OIA board meeting two weeks ago.[/FONT][/SIZE]

    [SIZE=14px][FONT=inherit]Airport director Phil Brown blamed “lots of complicated issues, but nothing in particular” for the deal not coming together. Rinaldi said there was “no particular holdup — just a reflection of time needed.”[/FONT][/SIZE]

    [SIZE=14px][FONT=inherit]OIA is being asked to help pay for a garage and depot for the train that would cost more than $210 million. About 80 percent of that would be for a 3,500-space garage. But who pays for what part of that bill has not been determined.[/FONT][/SIZE]

    [SIZE=14px][FONT=inherit]The airport also would be responsible for building a mile-long elevated monorail to serve the station at a cost of $181.4 million. Roads and other infrastructure costs of about $78 million would fall to OIA, too.[/FONT][/SIZE]

    [SIZE=14px][FONT=inherit]Ranch land long owned by the Mormons also could be needed to get the train on its final legfrom the BeachLine to the airport. Ranch manager Erik Jacobsen said talks have been minimal so far.[/FONT][/SIZE]

    [SIZE=14px][FONT=inherit]“We are aware they are currently studying the feasibility of the BeachLine route, which could possibility impact some ranch property,” he said in an email. “We are also trying to understand how it might impact the ranch long term, but at this point it is difficult to know.”[/FONT][/SIZE]

    [SIZE=14px][FONT=inherit]FECI, which also does business as Flagler, owns property throughout Florida, including Florida East Coast Railways, which operates a rail line from Miami to [COLOR=#004466][FONT=inherit]Jacksonville along the East Coast. The trains carry freight, but the lines could be upgraded for passenger service.[/FONT][/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

    All Aboard Florida officials have said ridership studies indicate businesspeople as well as tourists would take the train. They predict construction could begin next year.

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-08-31/news/os-train-orlando-miami-20120831_1_passenger-train-cocoa-orlando-international-airport

  82. yellows2k

    September 13, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    [SIZE=6][SIZE=24px][COLOR=#000000][FONT=inherit]All Aboard Florida still seeking route to airport[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=11px][COLOR=#003344][FONT=inherit][SIZE=12px][COLOR=#292727][FONT=inherit]By Dan Tracy, Orlando Sentinel[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=12px][COLOR=#dd5200][FONT=inherit]4:42 p.m. EST, September 12, 2012[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

    [FONT=inherit]Would-be builders of a billion-dollar privately financed train still are looking at several options on how to get from near Cocoa to Orlando International Airport.[/FONT]

    [FONT=inherit]All Aboard Florida, the 240-mile system that would link the airport with three South Florida cities, has access to tracks running from downtown [FONT=inherit]Miami all the way to Jacksonville through Florida East Coast Railway. But the company stills needs a path to get to OIA.[/FONT][/FONT]

    [FONT=inherit]Husein Cumber, executive vice president of development for All Aboard Florida, said Wednesday his company continues to talk with the state and the [FONT=inherit]OrlandoOrange County Expressway Authority, both of which operate a toll road where the right of way would provide the most logical path for the train.[/FONT][/FONT]

    [FONT=inherit]Though Cumber declined to discuss specifics of the negotiations, he said the goal is to have a pact by the end of the year. All Aboard Florida also could announce the type of locomotive and cars it would use by year’s end, Cumber said.[/FONT]

    [FONT=inherit]“We’re making significant progress,” Cumber told a meeting of MetroPlan Orlando, which sets transportation policy in Orange, Seminole and Osceola counties.[/FONT]

    [FONT=inherit][SIZE=3][FONT=arial][COLOR=#222222]bit.ly/TLhTko[/FONT][/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

  83. yellows2k

    September 19, 2012 at 1:04 am

    All Aboard Florida Selects AMEC
    as its Environmental Engineering Firm

    MIAMI (September 18, 2012) – All Aboard Florida – Operations LLC (“AAF”), developer of the
    country’s first privately owned, operated and maintained intercity passenger rail system that will
    connect South Florida to Orlando, has selected AMEC Environment & Infrastructure, Inc. (“AMEC”)
    as the environmental engineering firm overseeing the design planning and environmental
    compliance and permitting efforts for the 230-mile passenger railway infrastructure.
    AMEC has a three-decades-long history of providing engineering and environmental solutions for
    private and public sector customers in North America’s rail and transportation industry. “AMEC’s
    global track record of exemplary engineering feats in the transportation sector makes them a
    worthy partner in this project,” said Michael Reininger, Executive Vice President of AAF. “The firm
    will deliver on our philosophy to bring intercity passenger rail service to Florida without
    sacrificing or adversely impacting the critical environments and natural habitats that define our
    state’s landscape.”
    AMEC is one of the world’s leading engineering and project management companies covering all
    aspects of environmental services, geotechnical engineering and infrastructure design and
    management. Environmental service capabilities offered include impact surveys, permitting,
    auditing, planning, site assessment and characterization, environmental management and
    engineering, and air quality and risk assessment services, among many others.
    The firm’s contributions to major transportation-oriented projects include supplying engineering,
    permitting and construction management services for capacity improvements on Class I railroads
    in the eastern U.S., including work on the Hartland Corridor, Crescent Corridor and the National
    Gateway projects; revitalizing and widening a 5-mile stretch of DeSoto County roadway linking
    State Route 17 and State Route 31 in Florida; and expanding the Garden Avenue and Highway 403
    interchange in Ontario, Canada, which required significant mitigation measures and minor
    realignment to the Fairchild Creek waterway.

  84. yellows2k

    October 10, 2012 at 12:28 am

  85. Jack

    October 14, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    This is all well and, great news, but, in my opinion, this should have been done 20 years ago. The FEC right-of-way is sooo underutilized. This wide right-of-way runs thru the heart of every city in Southeast Florida. At somepoints as wide as 125′ and more. With the amount of tourism in this region, and population growth, to let this go to waste is criminal.
    Miami-Dade is expected to be near 3,000,000 by 2030. Broward, over 1,800,000 and Palm Beach County over 1,600,00. The region will be over 7,300,000 by 2030 distributed up and down the coast and has no comprehensive transit system other than TriRail. The bus system is still by county and regional.
    Adding a passenger line is a start but will hardly be felt. It will be great for tourists and a some south Floridians that are adventurous enough to grab a train to Orlando.
    there needs to be a system that not only connects doentown Miami to Downtown Fort Lauderdale but also tie all the neighborhoods in between.
    A bike trail placed along the FEC would not be intrusive to the function of the FEC and farly affordable. This could be tied in with a linear park that extends the entire length, from West Palm to Miami. It would be a tourist destination as well as a great addition to dozens of communities along the line.
    On a larger scale, a trolley line could co-exist with the addition of FEC’s passenger rail line. It would be the express line and the trolley could be the local.
    Sorry to be a wet blanket, but…
    This is a sorry stage we are at

    I also feel very uncomfortable that this will be done by a private company not feel better. Can you say money grab?

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/FEC-Rail-Development-Opportunities-for-the-People/394609687262652#!/media/albums/?id=394609687262652

  86. langbro

    October 15, 2012 at 3:35 am

    Jack, post: 2224, member: 305 wrote:
    Adding a passenger line is a start but will hardly be felt. It will be great for tourists and a some south Floridians that are adventurous enough to grab a train to Orlando.
    there needs to be a system that not only connects doentown Miami to Downtown Fort Lauderdale but also tie all the neighborhoods in between.

    Do you mean this?

    New commuter rail line on FEC tracks | Miami-Ft.Lauderdale-W. Palm Beach | Proposed

    Jack, post: 2224, member: 305 wrote:
    A bike trail placed along the FEC would not be intrusive to the function of the FEC and farly affordable. This could be tied in with a linear park that extends the entire length, from West Palm to Miami. It would be a tourist destination as well as a great addition to dozens of communities along the line.

    Not sure that it would be safe or pleasant. I have not heard of something similar anywhere else in the world.

    It is easy to forget that FEC was here before the rest of us…. and allowed all of those road crossing etc. well after the line was built.

  87. Jack

    October 15, 2012 at 5:42 am

    Doesnt seem to be allowing me to post my pics of numerous examples. Check out either of these links if you like. http://s1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii550/FECRailDevOp/?action=view&current=BikeTrails28.jpg
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/FEC-Rail-Development-Opportunities-for-the-People/394609687262652

    Or just look at my avatar

    And yes, they were here before us. They didnt “allow” them. The line was intended to start development in South Florida. That is still the case. The more development along the line, the better for them. It could be a long term lease, not unusual. There are many ways that it would be made attrctive for them to do it.

  88. Jack

    October 15, 2012 at 6:13 am

    Its actually quite common and a growing trend

  89. Sean

    October 16, 2012 at 2:30 am

    I’ve been following your Facebook page for a while. It’s great. I personally think a trolley would be more effective on US 1 than on the FEC right of way though. And it would still be close enough to the FEC to make frequent intermodal connections.

    Jack, post: 2224, member: 305 wrote: This is all well and, great news, but, in my opinion, this should have been done 20 years ago. The FEC right-of-way is sooo underutilized. This wide right-of-way runs thru the heart of every city in Southeast Florida. At somepoints as wide as 125′ and more. With the amount of tourism in this region, and population growth, to let this go to waste is criminal.
    Miami-Dade is expected to be near 3,000,000 by 2030. Broward, over 1,800,000 and Palm Beach County over 1,600,00. The region will be over 7,300,000 by 2030 distributed up and down the coast and has no comprehensive transit system other than TriRail. The bus system is still by county and regional.
    Adding a passenger line is a start but will hardly be felt. It will be great for tourists and a some south Floridians that are adventurous enough to grab a train to Orlando.
    there needs to be a system that not only connects doentown Miami to Downtown Fort Lauderdale but also tie all the neighborhoods in between.
    A bike trail placed along the FEC would not be intrusive to the function of the FEC and farly affordable. This could be tied in with a linear park that extends the entire length, from West Palm to Miami. It would be a tourist destination as well as a great addition to dozens of communities along the line.
    On a larger scale, a trolley line could co-exist with the addition of FEC’s passenger rail line. It would be the express line and the trolley could be the local.
    Sorry to be a wet blanket, but…
    This is a sorry stage we are at

    I also feel very uncomfortable that this will be done by a private company not feel better. Can you say money grab?

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/FEC-Rail-Development-Opportunities-for-the-People/394609687262652#!/media/albums/?id=394609687262652

  90. Jack

    October 16, 2012 at 5:45 am

    Sean, post: 2249, member: 42 wrote: I’ve been following your Facebook page for a while. It’s great. I personally think a trolley would be more effective on US 1 than on the FEC right of way though. And it would still be close enough to the FEC to make frequent intermodal connections.

    Thank you Sean. I am a big fan of Curbed. You’re an inspiration.

    Tho most will believe that a trolley line along the FEC is unlikely, I do believe in it. It would not havve to compete with traffic along the FEC like it would on US 1. Having as many stations as I would like to see, it would be necessary to keep things moving. Trolleys. as flexible as they are, would also be able to flyover major arteries, averting delays and traffic tie ups w pesky rr xings.

    Also, so much of US 1 has been given up to strip malls where as the FEC corridor, which I live 4 houses from, has so much transit oriented development potential. Now it is predominantly second rate industrial in the hearts of many of the cities. For me it is such an obvious solution. A busway would work in it’s place, but for many reasons, I prefer the trolley.

    I also do not want to underestimate how important a GREENWAY and BIKE TRAIL would be to the surrounding neighborhoods. It would transform the basic function of the entire region.

  91. langbro

    October 18, 2012 at 11:53 am

    Filing with the Federal DOT asking for an exemption. Including a map with the actual route

    [embed]http://www.scribd.com/doc/110410576[/embed]

  92. langbro

    October 18, 2012 at 11:56 am

    This proposal has NOT been chosen yet, it is competing with other possible fleet plans

    [embed]http://www.scribd.com/doc/110410828″]

  93. langbro

    October 18, 2012 at 11:57 am

    September presentation of All Aboard Florida.

    Mentions that the Downtown Miami station will be elevated as in Berlin, and connect with two metrorail stations.

    Ft Lauderdale will conect with Wave streetcar, and in WPB they are in talks with Tri-rail and Amtrak.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl1yVSD_Tv8“]

    Rolling stock is the biggest holdup, it will take 20-30 months to build. There will be ten train sets

    South Florida stations will be open to use by the commuter rail project.

    The two potential rolling stock companies are foreign with US plants

    Some portions might have a third track

  94. Sean

    October 18, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    This is all great, except for the name. I had hoped the name “All Aboard Florida” was a concept name and that they would have enough taste to just use “Florida East Coast Railway” when they got down to business. I guess not.

  95. sandman

    October 30, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    Looks like the Feds are not going to be giving an exemption too quickly:
    http://www.stb.dot.gov/filings/all.nsf/6084f194b67ca1c4852567d9005751dc/b7c7a0c08db4208085257aa300710bdc/$FILE/233278.pdf

    [embed]http://www.scribd.com/doc/111576665″]

  96. sandman

    October 30, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    Station options:





  97. mechanesthesia

    October 30, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    YES! I hope they pick the south option for Ft. Lauderdale. It would take you right to the heart of Las Olas! Imagine just jumping on the train to catch a concert and being in the heart of all those clubs!!!

    If they pick the North option for Miami I would have a much greater impact on the surrounding areas bordering overtown/Park West area. But the central station will also revive the CBD and historic flagler street.

  98. sandman

    November 1, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    All Aboard Florida – Environmental Assesment

    [embed]http://www.scribd.com/doc/111785819″]

  99. sandman

    November 1, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    See the FEC Mixed-Use Downtown Miami Rail Station | Proposed thread: details about the stations have been revealed

  100. Sean

    November 1, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    The Appendixes (see page 255) are not attached.

  101. sandman

    November 1, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    Sean, post: 2467, member: 42 wrote: The Appendixes (see page 255) are not attached.

    http://www.feci.com/Appendices.pdf

  102. sandman

    November 2, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    Lauderdale and WPB preferred station


  103. sandman

    November 2, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    AAF 2018 projected daily ridership:

    Miami / Ft. Lauderdale – 1,494
    Ft. Lauderdale / W. Palm Beach 160
    Miami / W. Palm Beach – 2,775

  104. langbro

    November 13, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    Orlando Airport has been busy this month bidding out construction of the All Aboard Florida rail station and people mover

    All documents can be found here:
    http://www.orlandoairports.net/construction/index.htm

  105. yellows2k

    November 14, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    Will All Aboard Florida lose one of their top executives to Washington?

    Former Amtrak president David Gunn is recommending that President Obama name Eugene Skoropowski as the next transportation secretary to replace outgoing chief Ray LaHood.

    Skoropowski is highly respected in the industry and is currently a senior vice president for All Aboard Florida.

    One candidate whom [former Amtrak president] Gunn said he could recommend for transportation secretary is Eugene Skoropowski, who made a name for himself managing California’s Capitol Corridor between San Jose and Sacramento via Oakland. During his tenure, ridership tripled and the number of trains scheduled per day quadrupled, turning it from a lowly intercity line into a bustling commuter system. And he did this without any additional state subsidies.

    Because Capitol Corridor trains run on tracks owned by the Union Pacific Railroad, Skoropowski had to work with the freight carrier to achieve these ridership gains. Today he works for Florida East Coast Industries, a freight railroad that is starting private passenger rail service between Miami and Orlando, the first in more than a half-century.

    Skoropowski’s history of cooperation with the freight-rail industry stands in marked contrast to the California High-Speed Rail Authority’s hostile relationship with the Union Pacific — hardly the cooperative partnership that David Gunn suggested is necessary for high-speed rail to succeed in the U.S.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-13/obama-s-new-cabinet-can-make-trains-run-on-time.html

  106. sandman

    November 18, 2012 at 3:10 am

    All Aboard Florida is applying for a loan from the feds under the RRIF program. This will finance a portion of the construction costs.

    Other interesting tidbits come from a presentation by All Aboard Florida last week: http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/business/passenger-train-on-track-for-south-florida-company/nS7bJ/

    -All Aboard Florida will bring in another company to operate the service – so the rail service will probably be marketed under a name different than All Aboard Florida

    -40 different entities have responded to the Florida RFP for the Cocoa-Orlando segment rights. FDOT is to choose the winning proposal on December 18th.

  107. langbro

    December 6, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    Reminder: proposals are due by tomorrow at 3PM for the Cocoa-Orlando ROW

    http://www.dot.state.fl.us/procurement/Lease_Of_ROW_Adv.shtm

  108. yellows2k

    December 9, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    All Aboard Florida only bidder to build private rail lines to Orlando

    All Aboard Florida submitted the only proposal Friday to use State Road 528 rights of way for a private rail line.

    FDOT officials were expected to announce the selected company Dec. 18, but without any competition, it is unclear whether FDOT and the Orlando Orange County Expressway Authority must accept All Aboard Florida’s bid.

  109. yellows2k

    December 10, 2012 at 3:43 pm

  110. yellows2k

    December 14, 2012 at 2:35 pm

  111. sandman

    December 18, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    yellows2k, post: 2892, member: 8 wrote: State appears ready to get on board with Orlando-to-Miami train
    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-miami-orlando-train-20121214,0,1037131.story

    The State of Florida is expected to announce the results today at 3-4PM

  112. yellows2k

    December 19, 2012 at 12:06 am

    All Aboard Florida is the winning bidder, and has received approval to open negotiations to lease the right-of-way for free.

    The cost estimate for construction has increased to $1.5 billion.

    State and Orlando officials are willing to part with the property. But the expressway is not willing to give up the ability to add lanes and interchanges to the BeachLine, now a four-lane highway.

    That could increase construction costs for All Aboard Florida by forcing the train to either go under or over planned interchanges.

    “Today, the Florida Department of Transportation notified All Aboard Florida that it has accepted our proposal to lease right of way in the State Road 528 corridor to build the first private intercity passenger rail system in the country,” said Husein Cumber, executive vice president of corporate development for Florida East Coast Industries. “All Aboard Florida will begin negotiations with FDOT to determine the lease terms that will allow our $1.5 billion private investment to move forward quickly so we can enhance Florida’s transportation network and begin to create thousands of new jobs in our state.”

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-all-aboard-florida-train-20121218,0,6483452.story
    http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/news/2012/12/18/passenger-rail-company-all-aboard.html

  113. yellows2k

    December 26, 2012 at 12:45 am

    Orlando-to-Miami train could generate $145M in fares annually

    If the All Aboard Florida train becomes a reality, the system linking Orlando International Airport with Miami would generate $145 million in fares annually by 2018, according to records filed by the company with the state.

    With one-way tickets estimated in the $100 range, that would mean the Coral Gables-based company is expecting to carry nearly 1.5 million passengers between Central and South Florida within three years of its inaugural trip in 2015.

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-miami-to-orlando-train-20121225,0,7345804.story

  114. sandman

    December 30, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    All Aboard Florida received the good news last week that the STB board has granted an exemption from review

    The lone dissenter was Vice Chairman Francis P. Mulvey, who was originally appointed to the Surface Transportation Board in 2003 by President George W. Bush.

    [embed]http://www.scribd.com/doc/118405906[/embed]

  115. yellows2k

    January 14, 2013 at 10:30 pm

    Environmentalists concerned about new Miami-Orlando train route
    http://environment.blogs.theledger.com/12889/enviros-look-at-new-miami-oia-train-route/

  116. dgm

    January 15, 2013 at 8:19 am

    This screams of NIMBYs. It is clear that the area that they will make their turn will require that they eminent domain a limestone quarry and an automobile dump. They own a [COLOR=#0000ff]tract of land[/COLOR] a little further North, but I think they’d only make the turn there if they planned on having a station and a mixed-use project in Cocoa, which appears to be off the table.

  117. yellows2k

    January 21, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Land purchase points to West Palm Beach location for train station

    By Emily Roach
    Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

    WEST PALM BEACH — All Aboard Florida has acquired more downtown property for a train station with plans for an express rail line from Miami to Orlando just two years away.

    More than $4 million has been invested in the Datura and Evernia blocks abutting the Florida East Coast Railway tracks beside Quadrille Boulevard since last fall. All Aboard Florida has identified the location as one of its preferred option for a station in West Palm Beach. The express rail project is being developed by All Aboard Florida, a spinoff company from Florida East Coast Industries that is affiliated with Florida East Coast Railway.

    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/business/land-purchase-points-to-west-palm-beach-location-f/nTybc/

  118. dgm

    January 24, 2013 at 8:22 am

    Just learned that the East Coast Railway was completed on Jan. 22, 1912. I feel like FECR missed a great marketing opportunity there with the 100 year anniversary of their railway. I guess they are quite busy at the moment.

  119. yellows2k

    January 25, 2013 at 1:50 pm


    Mormon church could block Orlando-to-Miami train


    January 24, 2013|By Dan Tracy, Orlando Sentinel

    The Mormon church could stymie efforts to build a $1.5 billion train between South Florida and Orlando International Airport by not allowing tracks on land it once owned.

    Attorneys for All Aboard Florida, the Coral Gables company behind the train, are trying to decide what to do about the potential problem. On Thursday, they were poring over legal documents related to the property on the south side of the BeachLine Expressway near the airport.

    The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints gave the land to the expressway authority in 1965 with the condition that it be used for a “limited access toll road.” Nothing was said about a train or other possible development.

    That could allow the church to halt the train. The church, through its Deseret Ranch holdings, owns 300,000 acres that abuts the BeachLine and sprawls across Orange, Brevard and Osceola counties.

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-01-24/news/os-train-deseret-conflict-20130124_1_beachline-expressway-freight-trains-mormon-church

  120. yellows2k

    February 26, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    All Aboard Florida confirms West Palm station, clears environmental hurdle

    By Emily Roach
    Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

    WEST PALM BEACH — Top company officials confirmed Monday that the All Aboard Florida passenger rail line will build a station and platform at Datura and Evernia streets in downtown West Palm Beach.

    The passenger railway is expected to be running by the end of 2015, FECI Executive Vice President Husein Cumber said.

    All Aboard Florida plans to navigate all the federal, state and local planning for environmental, land use and zoning by the end of this year to keep the Miami-to-Orlando express passenger rail line on track. That includes a second environmental assessment that will cover the entire route from Miami to Orlando.

    Recently the Federal Railroad Administration gave a pass to the company’s environmental assessment from Miami to West Palm Beach, determining that sending nine-car trains up and down the tracks 16 times a day on the Florida East Coast Railway tracks would have “no significant impact.”

    The passenger railway company completed the assessment so it could apply for a federal loan for some or all of its plans to upgrade the tracks and buy 10 sets of diesel-engine trains. Signorello said the company has not decided whether it will use a federal railway financing program.

    Signorello and Cumber said lease negotiations to use the Beachline Expressway rights of way to build tracks linking Cocoa and Orlando should wrap up next month.

    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/business/all-aboard-florida-confirms-west-palm-station-clea/nWZL2/

  121. Brickellite

    February 26, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    Glad to hear good/real news. I really thought this thing was a fling and on its way out.

  122. langbro

    March 11, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    Florida East Coast Industries Announces All Aboard Florida Leadership

    Donald C. Robinson appointed as President and Chief Operating Officer and P. Michael Reininger Promoted to President and Chief Development Officer

    Press Release: Florida East Coast Industries, Inc.

    CORAL GABLES, Fla.–(BUSINESS WIRE)–
    Florida East Coast Industries, Inc. (FECI) today announced the appointment of Donald C. Robinson as President and Chief Operating Officer for All Aboard Florida, the country’s first privately owned intercity passenger rail system that will connect South Florida to Orlando. Mr. Robinson was a longtime senior executive with The Walt Disney Company. Additionally, P. Michael Reininger has been promoted to President and Chief Development Officer for All Aboard Florida. Mr. Reininger joined All Aboard Florida in 2012.
    Mr. Robinson will focus on developing the operational functions for the passenger rail project, including the procurement of rolling stock and engagement of third-party operators. Mr. Reininger will deliver the project’s built environment, including the rail infrastructure, stations, and transit-oriented real estate development. They will jointly define All Aboard Florida’s brand and customer experience.
    “We’ve now solidified the executive management team for All Aboard Florida,” said FECI President and CEO Vincent Signorello. “Both Don and Mike have successfully developed consumer brands and introduced unique customer experiences to the travel industry. Their partnership will ensure that our intercity passenger rail project sets the new world standard for travel and hospitality.”
    Mr. Robinson brings more than 35 years of experience developing, managing and branding complex, multi-faceted hospitality and recreational projects throughout the world. Most notably, he ran hotel operations for the entire Walt Disney World Resort in Orlando, Fla. In this role, he was accountable for all 16 Walt Disney World Resort hotels (30,000 rooms total), four theme parks, two water parks, five golf courses, more than 400 retail and dining facilities, and 35,000 employees. He was instrumental in the opening of Disneyland Paris and led the development and opening of Hong Kong Disneyland. Mr. Robinson most recently served as President of Baha Mar Resorts Ltd., where he oversaw the design, development and construction of a $3.5 billion resort destination located in Nassau, Bahamas.
    Mr. Robinson holds a Bachelor of Science in Microbiology from University of Central Florida. He serves as a Board Member of the Denny’s Corporation.
    Mr. Reininger brings nearly three decades of real estate development and brand management expertise to All Aboard Florida, having served in senior management roles with AECOM, MGM Resorts International, The St. Joe Company and The Walt Disney Company. He has spearheaded a diverse range of projects, including globally recognized mixed-use, transit-oriented developments and large-scale, international entertainment resort destinations. As managing partner for Union Station Neighborhood Company in Denver, Colo., he orchestrated the master planning for the Denver Union Station transit-oriented development project through a public-private partnership structure. That project created one of the country’s largest multimodal transit hubs involving the redevelopment of 30 acres of downtown Denver, including four million square feet of commercial development.
    Mr. Reininger holds a Bachelor of Architecture, Design Specialization from Texas Tech University, and executive certifications in resort and hotel master planning, financial engineering and business management from Harvard University School of Design, Harvard Business School, and Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania.

  123. langbro

    March 11, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    Florida East Coast Industries Announces All Aboard Florida Leadership

    Donald C. Robinson appointed as President and Chief Operating Officer and P. Michael Reininger Promoted to President and Chief Development Officer
    Press Release: Florida East Coast Industries, Inc.

    CORAL GABLES, Fla.–

    Florida East Coast Industries, Inc. (FECI) today announced the appointment of Donald C. Robinson as President and Chief Operating Officer for All Aboard Florida, the country’s first privately owned intercity passenger rail system that will connect South Florida to Orlando. Mr. Robinson was a longtime senior executive with The Walt Disney Company. Additionally, P. Michael Reininger has been promoted to President and Chief Development Officer for All Aboard Florida. Mr. Reininger joined All Aboard Florida in 2012.

    Mr. Robinson will focus on developing the operational functions for the passenger rail project, including the procurement of rolling stock and engagement of third-party operators. Mr. Reininger will deliver the project’s built environment, including the rail infrastructure, stations, and transit-oriented real estate development. They will jointly define All Aboard Florida’s brand and customer experience.

    “We’ve now solidified the executive management team for All Aboard Florida,” said FECI President and CEO Vincent Signorello. “Both Don and Mike have successfully developed consumer brands and introduced unique customer experiences to the travel industry. Their partnership will ensure that our intercity passenger rail project sets the new world standard for travel and hospitality.”

    Mr. Robinson brings more than 35 years of experience developing, managing and branding complex, multi-faceted hospitality and recreational projects throughout the world. Most notably, he ran hotel operations for the entire Walt Disney World Resort in Orlando, Fla. In this role, he was accountable for all 16 Walt Disney World Resort hotels (30,000 rooms total), four theme parks, two water parks, five golf courses, more than 400 retail and dining facilities, and 35,000 employees. He was instrumental in the opening of Disneyland Paris and led the development and opening of Hong Kong Disneyland. Mr. Robinson most recently served as President of Baha Mar Resorts Ltd., where he oversaw the design, development and construction of a $3.5 billion resort destination located in Nassau, Bahamas.

    Mr. Robinson holds a Bachelor of Science in Microbiology from University of Central Florida. He serves as a Board Member of the Denny’s Corporation.

    Mr. Reininger brings nearly three decades of real estate development and brand management expertise to All Aboard Florida, having served in senior management roles with AECOM, MGM Resorts International, The St. Joe Company and The Walt Disney Company. He has spearheaded a diverse range of projects, including globally recognized mixed-use, transit-oriented developments and large-scale, international entertainment resort destinations. As managing partner for Union Station Neighborhood Company in Denver, Colo., he orchestrated the master planning for the Denver Union Station transit-oriented development project through a public-private partnership structure. That project created one of the country’s largest multimodal transit hubs involving the redevelopment of 30 acres of downtown Denver, including four million square feet of commercial development.

    Mr. Reininger holds a Bachelor of Architecture, Design Specialization from Texas Tech University, and executive certifications in resort and hotel master planning, financial engineering and business management from Harvard University School of Design, Harvard Business School, and Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania.

  124. Rail_Nut

    March 20, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    The News that All Aboard Florida DIoD NOT want to get out:
    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-train-loan-feds-20130318,0,946363.story

    What ever happened to “an all privately-funded project” or “no public funds will be used”?

    All Aboard Florida has also applied to the Feds for funding (not loans) through other sources. More to follow on that later.

    Here is the article text form the link above:

    By Dan Tracy, Orlando Sentinel
    6:44 p.m. EDT, March 18, 2013
    The builders of a privately financed train linking South Florida with [COLOR=#666699]Orlando International Airport have applied for a federal loan to help pay for the $1.5 billion project.[/COLOR]
    Karen Hedlund, deputy administrator of the Federal Railroad Administration, on Monday confirmed the application but would not go into detail, saying she couldn’t because the document contains proprietary information.
    Calls to the train company, All Aboard Florida based in Coral Gables, were not returned. The paperwork was filed Friday, Hedlund said.

    The railroad administration website indicates the loan repayment can stretch as long as 35 years at low interest rates. Among other uses, loans can be granted to acquire new facilities or improve existing ones.
    The largest loan approved by the government in recent years was nearly $563 million to [COLOR=#666699]Amtrak in 2011. The smallest was more than $56,000 to C&J Railroad in the Mississippi Delta.[/COLOR]
    The railroad agency is committed to having trains provide an alternative to airports and more road construction, Hedlund said. Trains are especially adept at moving people on trips that last three hours or less and cover no more than 500 miles, she said.
    “We see rail as the transportation mode of the future,” said Hedlund, who was in Orlando to address a meeting of transportation executives and government officials.
    All Aboard Florida, owned by [COLOR=#666699]Florida East Coast Industries, anticipates competing with airlines flying between Orlando and South Florida. By train, the trip would take about three hours, with top speeds of 125 mph.[/COLOR]
    No privately run train offering passenger service has operated successfully since the automobile became the main choice of travelers. Government typically helps pay for mass-transit systems because they are so expensive to build and operate.
    A sister company of All Aboard Florida, [COLOR=#666699]Florida East Coast Railway, owns about 200 miles of track from Miami to Cocoa. From there, the train would travel west along the BeachLine Expressway to the airport.[/COLOR]
    [EMAIL='dltracy@tribune.com'][COLOR=#666699]dltracy@tribune.com[/EMAIL] or 407-420-5444[/COLOR]

  125. Alexdw85

    March 20, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    lol. well that figures. im not even against funding it, but they have been out for a year now parading around about how they would finance 100% privately. given the current mood in Washington, i doubt they will get much. we’ll see how serious they are about that 2014 completion date.

  126. langbro

    April 16, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    Southwest Airlines demanded that Orlando Airport halt plans to build a rail station with a link to Miami:

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-03-26/news/os-ed-oia-train-station-20130325_1_director-of-airport-affairs-train-station-airport-leaders

  127. sandman

    April 17, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    Public meetings:

    [embed]http://www.scribd.com/doc/136483813″]

  128. langbro

    May 6, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Reminder: the Miami meeting is today at 3:30 PM

  129. langbro

    May 14, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    Mormon church owned ranch accused of trying to ‘hijack’ the train by asking the state to review the project…. it could push back the start date for the rail line by months or years.

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-05-10/news/os-miami-train-ranch-fight-20130510_1_aboard-florida-train-project-beachline-expressway

  130. MikeyFTL

    November 14, 2013 at 10:02 am

    I live on the block where the new station is supposedly going. They are already breaking ground across the street from my development. There’s already talk about how this station is going to either raise or lower property valves downtown. Personally, I like the idea of the train, but not the station in my backyard. The location of the new station is smack in the middle of the trashiest part of downtown. Homeless people camp out everywhere and the City hasn’t been able to do anything about it. There’s a scummy quikmart and a McDonalds across the street from the bus station on NW 1st Avenue that draws mobs of homeless people and loiterers. It’s scary just to drive through there. I’m telling you right now that this new station is going to increase this unwanted element 10 fold and property values are going to plummet. I’m putting my place up for sale immediately.

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