35-Story, $300 Million ‘Windowless’ Courthouse Proposed By Crescent Heights

Crescent Heights has submitted an unsolicited proposal to replace Dade’s civil courthouse, according to the Herald.

The developer would build a 35-story tower at 54 West Flagler Street, across from the current courthouse. The new building would have 50 courtrooms, double the 25 in the existing building.

Dade would pay rent for the new building. In addition, Crescent Heights will be granted the right to turn the historic 1928 courthouse into shops and offices.

The net rent cost to the county would start at $18 million a year for 99 years, totaling $1.8 billion for the term of the lease. The number includes rent that Crescent Heights would pay for the current courthouse building. The county would also be forced to pay for maintenance costs.

Kobi Karp designed the new tower, which one lawyer described as looking like “a jail” with too many windowless walls.

 

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PROCALC
4 years ago

Courthouses should be designed by architecture firms specialized in civic building design….please, Kobi Karp does residential and some of their work is very nice but this is a different animal.
Courthouses, banks and other institutions have a special language in terms of architecture to symbolize strength, stability, education, culture, balance, etc. This new design looks like the old Omni Mall but done as tower…it is just an ugly puppy.

Anonymous
4 years ago

I wouldn’t say it’s ugly at all. I like the elegant aesthetics of this black glass box. But it just doesn’t shout courthouse.

Anonymous
4 years ago

VERY UGLY PUPPY

Anonymous
4 years ago

Kobi Karp is so basic right now. It’s like the developer wants to play it safe, except that was 5 years ago. Let’s keep it moving forward. Like someone stated earlier, Civic spaces are a different animal

Anonymous
4 years ago

It might be ugly for a courthouse, but otherwise for a corporate office setting or even a hotel, I think it looks amazing.

Anonymous
4 years ago

Can we please have some history in Miami for once? Please? This used to be the tallest building in Miami and if youve ever walked in then you know that it is a very cultural and powerful building. Now we want to turn it into a rectangle? with “shops” PLEASE…….BE……..ORIGINAL

KFe
4 years ago

I think the best use for this building is to become a hotel. The can easely fit 200 rooms. Court Rooms could be transformed to meeting roons, restaurants and bars. Not to mention that high end hotel chains invest a lot of money in bringing old structures back to life by doing extensive work and renovation. This could reactivate and transform the area. And it perfectly goes with the new train station and world center.

Max
4 years ago

i was thinking the same…it does have a hotel character. Imagine what it would to for the area. We just need to bring Eataly to the old art museum

Anonymous
4 years ago

What is wrong with you guys? Is there not enough Hotels in the area for you?

Alpina
4 years ago

Well, our main industry is tourism

Anonymous
4 years ago

As a practicing litigator, the need for a new courthouse is desperately needed. That said, we should not rush just because a private developer dangles a bid in front of us. They will win in the end, and I’d rather it be the County. The previously floated ballot initative proposed a slightly more expensive facility but owned and operated outright by the County. I would personally rather have a slight tax increase to offset costs rather than turning over to a private developer with no experience in this area.

As for the lack of windows, that’s embarrassing. I never though I’d say this, but one should look at the brand new Broward state courthouse and check out the view from the wrap around hallways on one of the higher floors. They did a good job with aesthetics and function.

Anonymous
4 years ago

Im sorry but once you have private developers overseeing the justice system you begin to run into problems.

Alpina
4 years ago

Since it would be a civic building, i prefer to see something more International Style with natural stone cladding on the lower floors; transparent glass on the lobby with some green wall feature. It has to be an elegant but subtle design and definitely timeless.

suomynona
4 years ago

The proposed building looks fine. It would be a welcomed addition to downtown.

But Dade County would have to pay $1.8 Billion in rent AND have to pay for all maintenance? That seem fair/reasonable? How much would Crescent Heights be paying to rent the current courthouse?

Ferro
4 years ago

Well, fine is not enough for a civic building. This new design will never become ‘historic’ in 200 years….

Anonymous
4 years ago

Civic buildings shouldn’t be lavish or unwieldy expensive.

Marc305
4 years ago

Maybe so but it should still have windows, this is Miami for Christ sake. I can understand if you are in Detroit but here. Come on!

Anonymous
4 years ago

I don’t like that design at all. A court house should be special. The existing monotonous office building on the corner has more design merit than this proposal. Go back to the drawing board, Karp.

Sentry
4 years ago

I absolutely love the hotel idea. I just remembered that the city is redoing Flagler so this has to generate more pedestrian traffic along with new store openings. Maybe a department store opening at the old Miami museum like a bloomingdales to anchor the area and this neighborhood would transform in no time.

Anonymous
4 years ago

It’s so 1970’s
Where are the creative minds in this town?

Anonymous
4 years ago

1970s style office buildings are still being built in NYC and Chicago. I’m not joking at all, all their projects are 100% glass box buildings that look like something straight out of 1976. However, this is supposed to be a “courthouse”, and not an office or hotel. It looks nothing like a courthouse.

Anonymous
4 years ago

That’s New York, This is Miami….

Anonymous
4 years ago

You are correct. But several cities around the country, namely Atlanta, Houston, LA, Denver, Seattle, Charlotte, Pittsburgh, etc., have all “modern” glass buildings that are entirely office buildings, corporate headquarters and even hotels. Take a look and see buddy.

PBX
4 years ago

What does Crescent Heights know about preservation??? From what I know they don’t they have ‘0’ experience because they don’t invest in old buildings. Also, this building too magnificent to become become a Class B office building. This should be a hotel with a brand of Edition, Public, Viceroy, Four Seasons, Baccarat, etc.

Alpina
4 years ago

It does look like the NYC Edition Hotel

Anonymous
4 years ago

Hey, they just might tear that old courthouse down and build another useless residential tower. I’m just saying, it wouldn’t surprise me in this town.

Anonymous
4 years ago

Yes. Please look at Trumps Re-use of the Old Post Office, PLEASE

Leo
4 years ago

I think Flagler Street should be majorly redone in order to bring high end retail or at least national chains. It is imperative that we have a nice pedestrian shopping neighborhood with shaded trees. Where is Mana with its AMAZING PLAN for Flagler??? We need real developers with grant view and limitless imagination in order to transform downtown a make it a destination.

Anonymous
4 years ago

Dream on.
Retail?
Where are you going to get the people?
This is the U.S.A. People live in suburbs tied to their cars.
There is no center of gravity in cities anymore. The oil and car companies won that battle moons ago and this is the result. Chaotic traffic, no public mass transit anywhere, rampant, stupid, senseless sprawl, decentralization of cities, on and on and on, the list could be endless but why bother. It actually is quite too late…It will take another 100 years and still, our cities will be boring soul-less and difficult to move around.

Anonymous
4 years ago

On this same website they’re saying that 7,500 people are coming to Miami every month. People are coming little by little. ANd I agree, we need more public transit

Alpina
4 years ago

Are you from town??? Or you live underground waiting for the world to end?

Anonymous
4 years ago

Certainly a different design, the dark windows would stand out

KFe
4 years ago

Sorry, but the new design is simply horrible.

XOX
4 years ago

end market. And Miami is not NYC….
All ideas area interesting but the majority of developers in Miami are interested in a quick return. They don’t invest in area trying to change it because they simple don’t have the vision neither the money. By the way, don’t believe in Mana, this is out of Related comfort zone, and Swire has too much on their plates

Anonymous
4 years ago

I like the symbolism of a “windowless” courthouse, like lady justice and the blindfold, but i doubt that’s what they are going for.

Leonardo
4 years ago

I don’t like that it’s horrible. Why won’t they add windows? The county needs to sell the old one a day build themselves a new one. Something that can last for over 100 years and the will save millions from paying rent.

Anonymous
4 years ago

Solid looking building. But I don’t think this resembles a courthouse but rather an office building or hotel. With that being said, just keep the current 1928 courthouse and maybe renovate it. To the people on here bashing the design of the building, I think it looks very modern and elegant. But I just can’t see this being a courthouse building.

Ilovearchytectures
4 years ago

It should be a building painted in red inferno
Since the majority of occupants are delinquents and layers

Anonymous
4 years ago

That is incorrect! In this country one is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Your sentiments are from the french napoleonic legal system, which is only a step or two above barbarism, where they are presumed guilty.

PROCALC
4 years ago

the proposed new building looks even older than the old one….

Anonymous
4 years ago

Dade County Courthouse was built in 1928. Are you referring to that one?

Anonymous
4 years ago

The residential building they proposed before this was way better.
I don’t understand though how it’s windowless if it appears the building is made up of glass, wouldn’t all of that glass have windows behind it? Either way, I’m not convinced. I think this area desperately needs residential over more offices.

Anonymous
4 years ago

The area has tons of residential.

Anonymous
4 years ago

This is not an office building smart one. Did you bother to read the article or even the title? Oh wait a minute, you just looked at the pictures and made an a$$ out of yourself.