Amazon Leaning Toward Urban Site That Can Handle Growth For HQ2

Amazon’s view on an ideal site for HQ2 appears to now be crystallizing, the WSJ reported yesterday.

According to several people familiar with the search, the company is leaning towards:

  • An urban site, in an area capable of handling the company’s growth. This is a shift from the initial top 20 selection, which also included suburban sites.
  • In addition to existing tech talent, the city should be appealing in order to draw talent both nationally and internationally.

The reported shift could be beneficial to Miami, which is offering an urban campus surrounded by transit, dense development, and properties with intense zoning rights.

Site visits have already been taking place, but last less than 48 hours.

Some unnamed cities have been giving Amazon executives bike and boat tours, while also taking them to visit trendy neighborhoods that could be attractive to younger employees.

One person involved in a site visit said the company believes there is no American city that can provide all of their needs, and they will need to compromise no matter which city is chosen.

 

 

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Jesus

Well Miami is adored nationally and internationally. They should pick Miami. Have they seen what downtown Miami is turning into? It’s going to be amazing. We should invite them to Cafe Versailles. They will pick Miami right then and there. Haha

Anonymous

Miami is more than Cuban at this point.. if they want an international work-force, then Miami should be # 1 on their list. It’s a no-brainer.

Anonymous

Enriqueta’s will be more appealing than the dated Cafe Vesalles.

Anonymous

You obviously did not get it!!!!

Jim

Miami has no IT workforce, hurricane alley, and ruin the tourist industry.

Anonymous

Sounds like Miami may just be the answer to amazons quest for great location to grow the company…..

Jim

Its not.

Magazine

If I were Amazon, I would look at the recent City Commissioners that voted to scrap the baywalk that could be used for biking / pedestrians for commuting to work – and then putting that money towards pet projects like cuban museums – and that would tell me all I need to know.

Cubans hate baywalks

So true. Too many antique ideas from too many old Cuban politicians.

Ex-Republican/Free Mkt and Melting Pot Proponent

Every city has its problems, but I imagine Amazon might take a much harder look at the stunt that the GOP leadership in Georgia pulled when they hugely penalized Delta in order to demonstrate their unwavering support for the NRA.. ideology at the expense of economic opportunity. Given that Bezos is progressive, it should be clear to him that state government in the case of an Atlanta (and many other places like it) could present a pretty serious risk to his business. Many of these blood red states are so eager to impose their “values” on their largest cities that they don’t mind that they create a business and cultural climate that is inhospitable to companies like Amazon that tend to have liberal political leanings and an urgent need to attract international talent to compensate for the limited domestic pool of skilled workers in key areas. A stupid sidewalk (for the record, I would love to see the Baywalk built) is immaterial when compared to the massive impact that the far right culture warriors can have in places like Atlanta, Dallas, Raleigh/Durham, etc. At least in Miami, we are perceived as welcoming to the foreign talent pool he needs, and… Read more »

Anonymous

Look no further. Come to Miami!

Anonymous

Miami is already the business capital of South America..multi-national headquarters.. and we have a huge Warehousing and Distribution facilities.. Europeans want to live and play here..

Alpina

Business Capital of South America…heheh…you know nothing my friend…go to Santiago, Bogota, Buenos Aires, or Sau Paulo and you will see Miami is NOT the capital of South America. I have no idea who gave Miami that title buy it is completely made up.

Anonymous

A few of the Latin American Regional Headquarters in Miami:

Acer Latin America
Adobe Latin America
Audi Latin America
Canon Latin America
Cisco Systems Latin America
Discovery Networks Latin America/US Hispanic
Disney Media Networks Latin America
Electrolux Major Appliances – Latin America
Epson Latin America
ESPN Latin America
FedEx Express, Latin America and Caribbean Division
Ferragamo Latin America
HBO Latin America Group
HP Latin America & Caribbean
Komatsu Latin America
Kraft Foods Latin America
Medtronic Latin America Operations
MTV Networks Latin America
Nickelodeon Latin America
Nokia Latin America
Novartis Latin America Services
Oracle Latin America
Panasonic Latin America, SA
Parfums Christian Dior Latin America
Porsche Latin America, Inc.
Samsung Electronics Latin America
Sony Broadcast & Professional Latin America
Sony Ericsson Latin America
UPS Americas and the Caribbean
Visa International, Latin America & Caribbean Region
Xerox Business Services Latin America
Univision
Telemundo

Anonymous

Checkmate ???

Anonymous

test

Anonymous

Problen is latin anerica is a shithole.

Anonymous

Is that you tRump?

Anonymous

Nah! Its half the population that voted for him..

PatrioticAmerican

Less than half voted for him. He lost the popular vote. Don’t make stupid statements. If you can seriously defend someone who is instigating a trade war, behaving so poorly that we are now a pariah in the international comnunity, literally handing China and Russia the superpower baton all while sowing the seeds of an economic disaster that will result from these high-deficit, low-level investment policy models (Brownback’s Kansas has already shown this to be a complete disaster), then you, like 30% of Americans, are either (1) smart but uneducated or under exposed to basic principles of political economy, (2) blinded by your partisanship (Republican party over country, over ethics and over morals) and thus unwilling to face facts or (3) just not that smart. Not sure which. But nobody who is non partisan, educated and informed supports this heinous and shameful administration because it has made most of the world see us as morally bankrupt, incapable of leading the world as we did so well for a century and, even worse, just a bad and often hated people with a system of capitalism and Democracy that nobody wants to emulate anymore. As a patriotic American who so firmly believes… Read more »

Anonymous

Youre so full of shit. Youve no idea what youre talking about , which is the reason youre a nobody and nobody elected you for anything in your life. We all wish we were as smart as you..

Anonymous

Excellent rebuttal, the cogence of which is matched only by your mastery of syntax and grammar. I’ve met Swiss or Japanese third graders that display more intellectual capacity to engage in actual debate than you have here. Schoolyard-level banter that’s fit for a pubescent might play well in your social circles, but boy oh boy is America screwed if we keep turning out people like you. Rest easy.. it’s not your fault. The educational system was rigged against you. Your inability to grapple with complex problems is the fruit of a system to allow power to rest not with the best and brightest but rather with, in our current state, an inarticulate orange ooompa loompa with the cunning of a donkey, the analytical skills of a dairy cow and the poise of a hippopotamus. You should be so proud.

Anonymous

You still think youre smarter than anyone else throwkng big words around. Youre full of shit. Looser. You try to impress with your finese because youre nothing. Looser. So hard trying to impress anonimous blog users. How sad. Looser.

Cat 3 (not that smart)

I fall under category 3, so please explain to me how a person who never held an elective office was able to be elected President of the United States having the cunning, poise and analytical skills of various farm animals.

Anonymous

Youre still full of shit. Youre not smart buddy.. hate to break it to you.

Jim

Those are not the services that Amazon is in.

Gene

Three little letters: USA

Anonymous

After the current president, it needs not to be capitalized.

Anonymous

Snowflake spotted

Anonymous

what’s a snowflake? the christian college that doesn’t allow gay speakers to provide alternative opinions to the creation story?

Anonymous

snowflake is the CO cake baker who won’t bake a cake for gays or jews because he only believes in christian weddings…

Anonymous

You must be referring to the embarrassing orange maggot in the WH.

Anonymous

Totally agree.

Anonymous

we have a lot of room for growth….but I hope they don’t cite current infrastructure as a inhibitor…because all infrastructure here has room for growth… Miami is booming

Jim

Miami is a nightmare with low educated workers in STEM, hurricane alley, and illegal aliens.

Anonymous

Miami needs transit. Without transit Amazon will not build a HQ with 50,000 employees.

Anonymous

50,000 people will not move to Miami on day one. However, if you live one of the 90,000 housing units proposed for downtowm Miami, you would have little concerns about mass transit to the suburbs.

Björn Heisterkamp

I believe that there is no other city than Miami that will offer such a great diversity of people. I learned that other cities may have higher educational background, but Amazon needs ‘just’ 50.000 employees and I think that Miami is the best place to recruit and find:
– world class city and environment
– easily 50.000 international talents, with multi cultural background
– a city that represents South America AND North America at the same time
– a place where it is an honour to live and work
– continuity, looking at the diverse society
– stable economy and political mild environment

Arno

* Stable economy and politically mild environment? Have you lived here long 😉
* Recruiting talent in the tech industry here is not easy, it’s actually bad. IT for health companies is the closest there is, not great.
* World Class city and environment? By environment are you referring to the water treatment issue on Key Biscayne, the cooling canals issue at the Turkey power plant, or that protected land by the Zoo they’re building a walmart on. Sorry it’s not a strong point there.

We all want Amazon to come here, but unless we get real we’re going to end up surprised and wondering why we got caught with our pants down.

Anonymous

Did you forget that a billion dollar plus water and sewer was built and paid for within the last five years by Miami Dade County. The recent street flooding in downtown Miami, due to the last hurricane last for less than four hours. Turkey Point has been rebuilt an now is properly maintain by Florida Power and Light Co. Another Nuclear Power Plant is located in Jupiter. Florida Power and Light recently built a billion dollar plus fuel power plant at Port Everglades in Fort Lauderdale. South Florida generates enough electrical power to satisfy a metro area twice its size. Lets not forget that South Florida was “the Everglades”. Our duty as tenants should be a good tenant. Lastly, the recruitment of tech talent is a ruse. When a market or industry downsizes or become saturated, the local economy is adverse affected. Surely Facebook will be federally regulated and companies like Amazon will be affected by international trade wars. Florida advantage is clean air/environment, among the nation top three homestead laws, overall great weather, the worlds top tourist attraction, no federal or local taxes, a state budget surplus and a population that has more money siting in financial accounts than… Read more »

Anonymous

You latinos dont get it. Representing LATAM means nothing. Nobody north of miami dade cares about latin america. And miami is good for tequillas on a cold february up north. My pet goldfish has better education than a regular cholo.

Anonymous

That’s actually a good thing for South Florida.. we will gladly keep receiving the foreign investment, tourism and intellectual talent from South America.. thank you for caring and educating your goldfish.

Anonymous

Foreign investment from Latam is peanuts compared to asia, middke east , china etc. As for latino intellectual talent, youll find that in the back kitchens of rey fritas.

Anonymous

Si si si los Blancos son superiores. Sera por es eso que las viejas gringas logran dejar la adiccion al alcohol y los antidepresivos cuando un latino les da una buena cojida.

Anonymous

Si la teneis enana chavalin. La unica cojida es cuando las violais. Para eso estamos aqui los blancos con nuestra superioridad para follar a vuestras madres y dejarla embarazadas. Por soys bastardos

Anonymous

Miami should be on top of the list, Miami can handle every need that Amazon can identify in the present or in the future. Miami has the most (1) international banks, and the most (2) international airlines designations than any city on Amazon’s short list. Miami can handle a Amazon Headquarters with ease. Just check the number of developments that were recently completed or proposed, approved or under construction in the metro area. The second largest urbanized metro area remaining on the short list.

Arno

Not sure why everyone’s downvoting people who point to infrastructure issues, political issues, education, cost of living etc. as clear negatives for Miami.
It seems like we’re all waiting for Amazon to come here to fix education/infrastructure/income levels/transit etc… the reality is these problems have been here for decades and we’re going to have to fix those problems and be honest with ourselves – Amazon or not. We ALL see the potential, let’s make it happen.

Relatively speaking, every city has pros and cons, but if you’ve traveled to cities like Austin, Raleigh, Columbus, Boston, Chicago, Atlanta etc… I don’t know how you put Miami above all of them objectively speaking. Looks at what’s happened to Charleston, NC over the past decade, attracting the likes of Boeing, BMW, Volvo etc… by first building infrastructure and doing urban planning – Miami’s

It’s one thing to be hopeful, it’s another to be drinking the kool-aid.

Anonymous

Persnally i wont choose a ity where no one driver stops in a crossing for pedestrians because….soy un sudaca de mierda.

Anonymous

You are so absolutely correct…!!!

Miami Hurricane

Yup. NYC and Boston have a better international talent pool overall. It all goes back to Amazons long term strategy.

The irony is amazons churn rate is so high that Miami would be beneficial for those looking for something different after 4-9 years of undergrad-PhD education in the snow.

Anonymous

For the record, Charleston isn’t in North Carolina. And they built a frickin’ bridge. They don’t have a train system to speak of. They don’t have major universities. They have no labor protections, which allows those companies to pay American workers a fraction of what those workers would earn in other developed countries (hence the reason that our middle class is now poorer than the middle classes in most other OECD countries). Meanwhile, they shower the companies with tax abatements to convince them to show up, and the lack of a robust tax base perpetuates the underinvestment in infrastructure and education that is a national problem, not a Miami problem. American cities compete well against Japanese and European cities not because they have highly skilled workers, top notch infrastructure and sociopolitical stability (in all of those regards, we are quite underdeveloped) but simply because our cost structure is lower. We have average workers in somewhat functioning urban environments that, intermittently, suffer from outbreaks of violence, social unrest and infrastructure failures. And we slide by because we have strength in numbers and big guns. There isn’t really much left that is globally best-in-class and worthy of emulation by others. We certainly… Read more »

Anonymous

South Florida wins, Florida wins and Bezo wins if Amazon chooses Miami as its HQ-2.

reality

build your HQ in miami…beautiful views of a highway and terrible old buildings to the north

Anonymous

An urban site? Miami is second to New York on the short list. Approx 30 billion dollars of construction work is already approved, proposed, planned or under construction in the metro area.
Appealing? Miami is the most appealing to young people on the list. It has South Beach entertainment district, Walt Disney World via Brightline Railway, Bahamas Islands, many upscale shopping malls, 12 casinos and a countless number of art festivals. Also, you may have a chance to see your favorite sports team play at one of three division one universities in the metro area.
Miami’s international appeal? Its the most diverse on the list.

Gene

Let’s keep our fingers and toes crossed.
….. and sometimes, be careful what you ask for.

suomynona

It’d be good for the state if Amazon chose Miami. But I fully expect it to be in northern Virginia.

Anonymous

I fully expect it to anywhere but miami.

suomynona

Amazon is already building a massive data center in northern Virginia, and northern Virginia is “Data Center Alley”, where something like 70% of the world’s data passes through.

Not to mention the whole proximity to DC and Washington Post ties.

Again, I’d love for it to be in downtown Miami, and I think Miami probably has a pretty good offer. But I don’t expect it to be chosen.

Jim

There is no IT talent in south florida. Too many hurricanes.

Anonymous

AMAZON will NEVER pick Miami.

Gringo

Can you imagine the bump in $$ for our properties….let’s go Miami

Jim

Too much traffic, everything more expensive, and you wont matter. Isnt that great news for a bump for our properties?

Anonymous

existing talent???

Anonymous

Thanks GOD none of the people commenting here are part of the actual Amazon decision making process….including myself.

Anonymous

MIAMI WILL NOT BE PICKED AS AMAZON’S HQ2…The negatives here far outweigh the positives in Amazon’s checklist of must haves for the site they’re scouting starting first and foremost with the lack of infrastructure and public transport in this town. All of you holding your breath hoping Miami gets picked should turn the page instead of keeping your hopes up…

Anonymous

What are next week’s winning lottery numbers?

Anonymous

Dumb reply by a dumb person who still plays the lottery hoping to hit the jackpot and throws away his money every week…keep it up bud. You speak with comedy, he speaks with Facts.

reality

they said they want room for growth and yet Miami slammed them into a dead corner between a highway a rail line a lot of decripedid homes between another highway and metro rail and the back side of Miami world center and shitty night clubs….they are stuck in that corner jammed pack 50 story tall 4 buildings like sardines in that corner, on top of that it’s the site of a former failed tech hub that literally failed because nimbys didn’t want a LED signage facing a highway

Anonymous

Um, Miami did what?

Anonymous

I sure hope this time around they’ll accept a giant Amazon logo facing the highway

Residents hate billboards

No residents and no tourists want be be harassed by billboards, especially LED billboards. In fact, if Amazon turns Miami down it might be because corruption has spawned too many billboards!

Trumpisha

My crystal ball see’s Miami as their pick

Jim

broken, no IT talent, and hurricane alley.

Anonymous

Our crap educational system and dismal transit options should automatically DQ us.

Jesus

The educational system is great at the university level. We don’t have many bachelor degree holding folks here because of rent, lack of diverse industries but that is slowly changing. Transit is actually better in Miami overall than in San Diego, LA, Houston, and many other cities.

Anonymous

Miami would be even better if they implement a more reliable mass transit system. That would definitely get Amazon to come here

Anonymous

universities here suck compared to elsewhere. i am just being honest. we do not have a u of chicago, columbia or princeton type institution. there are no reed college type liberal arts colleges here. the colleges/universities here prepare people for local careers, but there is no real large research university here offering classes in 50 foreign languages and phd’s in anthropology… UM doesn’t even offer russian classes…

Anonymous

Finally someone who doesnt suffer delusional complex

Anonymous

I agree with the “U”. These elite colleges has done little to spur economic growth in their cities. Chicago has severe budget problems and is the murder capital of the world. We may gain another U.S. congressional district in South Florida because Chicago, Boston and New York City has been losing residents. The great universities you mention are located in cities that are among the most taxed cities in the nation.

Anonymous

Siiiiiii…..therefore we shouldnt strife for better educational centers. I mean look at them. Those cities are worse off becasue of it.

Anonymous

Are you on drugs ? San Diego and L.A have better transit systems. Even Houston has more miles of transit rail and building more.

Anonymous

Hea not on drugs, something worse, latin ignorance

Anonymous

Subete al burro y vuelve a tu isla…

Anonymous

As someone who uses transit as my primary mode of transport, I have to agree with the OP. Transit in Miami, is first unreliable and second very poorly maintained. Our Education is not up to par with the west coast and NE what so ever and unless you make 80K+ in Miami, there is no way your going to own a home on your own. Amazon’s affect on our community will probably not be a positive one for most Miami-ans.

Anonymous

I disagree. A company bringing 50,000 direct jobs in tech will spark growth in all sorts of ways, which will benefit those living in Miami right now. Think 150,000 indirect jobs, both blue and white collar, push for better infrastructure and education.

Anonymous

its 50K jobs over 20 years nothing crazy about that. The impact on the jobs market will not be that substantial.

Anonymous

Miami’s urban poor neighborhoods will definitely be positively affected by the proximity to the new Amazon’s HQ.

Anonymous

Really, in what way? Cause I know the poor in Miami have minimal education. Maybe if you work as a janitor at amazon, you’ll benefit, but either way knowing our dear friend Jeff he’ll outsource the cleaning services to a company that pays minimum wage anyways. The poor will most definitely be displaced by the entrance of Amazon’s high paying tech jobs and increase rent and home prices. The poor will suffer, I have no doubt about that. Just take a look at the home price index in Seattle from 2005 to today and that’s all the proof you’ll need. I am all for it as I own real estate in the area. But lets not kid our selves the poor people in the area will be the last thing people will care about if Amazon comes to town.

Anonymous

if by positive you mean displaced

Anonymous

Yes, like in any other gentrification process, many will be displaced with nothing and other will be displaced with hundreds of thousands of dollars in their packets.
I recently purchased a House west of NW 7th Ave.for $250000, which today is considered a great deal. It needs work, the area needs lots of improvement. However, I own a quarter of an acre of land within walking distance of Wyndwood and Midtown, 10 mins away from the Beach and Downtown. The house was previously purchased for $35000 in 1986, the owner is moving to a condo in North Miami Beach with a nice retirement fund.

Anonymous

If Amazon pays you 80 grand, you have nothing to worry about. The state allows you to keep all your money. You can live in a condo downtown and ride free to work on metromover.

Anonymous

Guess what, we can have the worst educational system in the world (which we do not by any stretch as it is actually quite good) and it doesn’t matter…. You know why? Because EVERYONE will come down here to work for them…. They will come from everywhere……

Anonymous

LA

Anonymous

Texas

Danny Costa

Watch your mouth

Anonymous

Not to dampen everyone’s enthusiasm, but Miami has a huge climate change/sea level rise problem. I assume Amazon is informed and forward thinking enough to avoid Miami for this reason.

Rigo

I am pretty sure this is already being addressed…

Anonymous

i agree… this is a huge deal that the current political regime is trying to deny is happening. amazon should take note and not put its faith in religious leaders that hate gays but give mulligans to the president for sexcapades… but in science.