Another Problem With Downtown Miami’s New Tri-Rail Station: Trains May Be Too Wide, Heavy

The Tri-Rail station at MiamiCentral is unable to accommodate trains, according to the Herald.

The station opening had previously been delayed due to a missing safety system on the train tracks known as Positive Train Control.

Now, additional potential problems have now been revealed.

Tri-Rail trains are “a few inches” too wide to fit next to the platforms at MiamiCentral in a few spots, according to an engineers report. Steps that stick out from the trains would be clipped if they attempted to enter the station.

A second problem: the trains may be too heavy for the ramps that elevate the tracks into the station from the ground level. The engineer’s report says that calculations used in construction may be below standard.

The entire platforms may need rebuilding. An engineering report describes a “construction shortcut that resulted in a huge cost savings for the contractor.”

“There’s going to clearly be some delay,” Tri-Rail’s director said. The agency’s leadership had known of the issues at MiamiCentral since March, but only revealed them at a meeting of the South Florida Regional Transportation Authority on Friday.

Tri-Rail was originally scheduled to begin service at MiamiCentral in 2017. Multiple governments and agencies provided funding to Brightline to build the station.

 

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Anonymous
1 month ago

I don’t even know where to begin with this. Absolutely third world. The incompetence is unbelievable. Spending MILLIONS of dollars of taxpayer money over the course of YEARS and the trains “don’t’ fit”??? This is a national embarrassment.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Welcome to Meamee!

Anonymous
1 month ago

Build Back Better, right?

Anonymous
1 month ago

Yeah, this is a good example. Built under the previous administration, and it looks like a shady deal was done with shoddy construction benefitting a private corporation off public money. Sounds like the previous administration.

Anonymous
1 month ago

You can start by apologizing to me and everyone else who says things like, “stop wasting taxpayer dollars on all these public transit projects. The politicians will raid the funds (ie Half Cent Tax), the inept govt workers wont run it well (Metromover), and the beaurcrats will dcrew up the planning (this debacle).”

Government isnt the solution, government is the problem.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Easy fix, change the TriRail trains!

Anonymous
1 month ago

Miami has built two train stations that are not built for the trains that were scheduled to arrive.

We’re the best!

Anonymous
1 month ago

lol…

Anonymous
1 month ago

Iconic

Anonymous
1 month ago

To be honest the first one was amtraks fault for not delivering the correct dimensions of the entire train set before construction, this one is entirely on brightline. But both situations could have been avoided if miami dade just double checked/provided or requested additional details about both train sets

Squeak..
1 month ago

Speaking of Amtrak.. what’s being done to fix the Amtrak airport station?

Several years have passed.. I’m sure a fix could have been done by now..

Anonymous
1 month ago

That’s a feature, not a bug! Brightline never wanted ol’ TriRail at their station.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Can they return the money received for Tri-Rail?

Anonymous
1 month ago

Yes, you got it right. It has been obvious from the beginning that Brightline has been seeking a monopoly on all train service going from downtown Miami to all points north. They want to control all passenger traffic, whether it be inter-city, intra-city, commuter, etc. Engineering “errors’ of this magnitude are NOT the result of “incompetence.” it would be the equivalent of you hiring a private contractor to build you a house and then that contractor somehow places the front door six feet above the ground and with no steps leading up to it. “Oops, sorry. I made a mistake.” And yes, the obvious and most cost-efficient fix for this is to upgrade the TriRail trains. That is needed anyway for a lot of other reasons. There is no need to spend tens or hundreds of millions to rebuild the platform and the station, just update the TriRail trains!

Anonymous
1 month ago

This is outrageous. For $70 million in taxpayer funding for construction, we were promised this Tri-Rail connection. So who’s going to pay for the fix? Brightline better not come looking to the county for another handout.

Anonymous
1 month ago

^According to the Herald, $43 million of the $70 million to build the station was government funding.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Who’s going to pay for the fix?

YOU

Anonymous
1 month ago

HOW COULD NOBODY CHECK THE WEIGHT AND DIMENSIONS OF TRAINS BEFORE SPENDING $70,000,000????????

Anonymous
1 month ago

Easy, it’s not their money!

Anonymous
1 month ago

Lol…only in Miami.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Tri rail was scammed brightline wants to get the contract for commuter rail in south Florida from veolia

DJL Cyber
1 month ago

Cutting corners is very common, especially with certain contractors that have worked for projects in Miami. The FIU Campus Bridge, The Champlain Towers, and now it’s the rail-tracks in the Brightline Station.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Champlain towers was not poorly built, it was poorly maintained.

DJL Cyber
1 month ago

Maintained? Please explain the amount of steel rebar that was placed into the columns, compared to the original plans of the apartment complex.

Anonymous
1 month ago

That amount of steel rebar was plenty sufficient to hold the building up for decades until corrosion got to the point where it no longer did. The building was not properly maintained and was allowed to deteriorate.

Anonymous
1 month ago

The grade on the amenity deck not being sloped to spec did not help the situation.

DJL Cyber
1 month ago

There were plans to have 4 bars of steel through each side of the columns, but instead there was 2 installed on each side. It did hold up for at least 4 decades until the collapse began. However, it did not hold up like the other apartment buildings that were built correctly.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Like Champlain tower North?

Anonymous
1 month ago

No. It was poorly built.

Anonymous
1 month ago

the amount of rebar in a few of the columns was too much

Anonymous
1 month ago

Recall that there is a Champlain Tower North that was designed by the same architect, built by the same contractor, yet maintained by different people.

It is structurally sound.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Both actually

Anonymous
1 month ago

No. It was poorly built.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Slow motion trainwreck…literally

Anonymous
1 month ago

We should’ve opted for the federally funding rapid trains. Instead, we got Rick Scott’s friends peddling crap.

Anonymous
1 month ago

… sure thing, like the rapid train stain disaster they got in California lol

Anonymous
1 month ago

Right, a “shovel-ready project” that would never happen with stops miles away from anything walkable because it was proposed in the medians of freeways.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Miami Intermodal Center, the Sequel.

Anonymous
1 month ago

They didn’t think of measuring them BEFORE?

Anonymous
1 month ago

What, you think that’s important?

– MIA

Azarius
1 month ago

It’s crazy all the years and government money being played with. There should have been oversight to make sure things like this was addressed from the beginning and throughout the building process. Brightline was able to save a little money money on construction side but now it’s going to have to spend more and delay the service even longer. All while they’re private service keeps operating. They should be made to fix the issue without any further public funding.

Anonymous
1 month ago

The county and city government wanted a Tri-rail station at Miami Central. This is not Brightline’s fault.

Anonymous
1 month ago

It’s not Brightline’s fault, all they did was design and construct it!

Anonymous
1 month ago

That doesn’t dispute the fact that the city and county wanted it in the first place.

Anonymous
1 month ago

The city and county should have realized it after the platforms being vacant for over three years.

Anonymous
1 month ago

LOL – peak Miami. All flash and promises. Zero coordination and follow through.

Anonymous
1 month ago

And some people cry when they hear the word “casino” in Miami.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Some paid Genting poster interjects “Casino” no matter what the topic. How inane.

Anonymous
1 month ago

^
See what I’m talken bout?.. a “crybaby!”

Anonymous
1 month ago

^see what I’m talking about, a paid Genting poster rambling Casino nonsense no matter the topic at hand

Anonymous
1 month ago

^
Casino nonsense?.. you must be one of the people who mention “Metrorail and Metromover” on this site when that’s not even the topic?

Anonymous
1 month ago

^no, i’m the guy who has outed the Genting troll

Anonymous
1 month ago

^
Haha, the only you outed was those crocadile tears again when you think of people enjoying themselves in a casino.

Anonymous
1 month ago

^^Genting should have made sure you know how to spell crocodile before they paid you to post.

Anonymous
1 month ago

^
And little crybabies like you need to learn how to put a period at the end of a sentence to indicate that it’s finished.

Anonymous
1 month ago

THIS.

At this point, if something is built AT ALL I’m pleasantly surprised and if it actually WORKS as intended? Thats just gravy. Can’t expect much more from here unfortunately.

Anonymous
1 month ago

“How do you solve a problem like Miami?”
Where does the level of incompetence stop?
Glittering new hi-rises mostly built with shady money and bought by people even shadier.
What a place. Not even PR is this bad. Maybe we would stack up to Kazakhstan. Or Moldova.
A real shirt show. With sun.
And nails.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Before you cry “shirt show” you should produce your bonafide evidence of the “shady money” and shader people.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Next they will be laying the sod with the green side facing down.

Anonymous
1 month ago

lol…

Anonymous
1 month ago

That Miami construction quality.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Make them honor Tri-Rail prices until the issue is fixed. I’m sure they’re find a solution when it’s their money getting played with.

Anonymous
1 month ago

That picture tells it all:
Coming 2019
We’re 15 days from 2022.
Pathetic

Anonymous
1 month ago

LMAOOO – this right here is why Miami will never be a city to rival New York, DC, LA, SF….. Not because of the mass transit options (although that is one reason) but because everything is always done so half-assed. Now, at the project end, do they measure the train width to ensure it can pull into the station. Oh but lets be sure to highlight that the world famous strip club is opening a brothel (sorry I mean condo) tower above the existing club.

Absolutely amazing. Bravo Miami.

Anonymous
1 month ago

So you’re blaming E11even for the snafu at Miami Central?

Anonymous
1 month ago

I’m saying that instead of pay attention to things that matter – transit, development of infrastructure etc.. Miami citizens, this site and even Miami in general are more concerned with ensuring that strippers get the right amount of attention and promotion.

Just very typical Miami to make sure the strip club is promoted while the trains can’t even run.

Anonymous
1 month ago

^
Dude.. the citizens of Miami “PAY” their “MONEY” religiously in “TAXES” every year for so-called “EXPERTS” to make sure things like this doesn’t happen. You can gripe all you want when you think people are more concerned when it comes to strippers getting the right amount of attention and promotion but remember, those strippers pay taxes also. We, the citizens of Miami, have a lot of things to worry about and we don’t have time or the expertise to make sure trains fit on railroad tracks. That’s what we pay the “EXPERTS” a lot of money to do.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Pero hello?!?! Who is shocked by this…?

Anonymous
1 month ago

Eight years of Carlos Gimenez come with a nice tag price.

Anonymous
1 month ago

We haven’t even had a year with this carpetbaggess and I’m still waiting for my ice cream and cake.

Anonymous
1 month ago

They can’t be serious. It would be a lot of incompetence. The trains cannot fit on the platforms and are they heavier than foreseen in the project?1? I have never seen such primary errors.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Maybe ask former Miami-Dade Transit Director Alice Bravo who left the $250,000 job to take a private sector position where she immediately upped her grifting game (remember she was the one who came up with the brilliant idea of air-conditioned bus shelters after a grifter’s dream trip to Dubai. Or ask the new guy who replaced her earlier this year with a salary of $270,000! Miami upholds only the highest gold (fake) standard of grifting!

https://www.politicalcortadito.com/tag/alice-bravo/

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/miami-dades-new-transit-director-wants-to-transition-commuters-out-of-automobiles-12856089

Anonymous
1 month ago

Massive waste of taxpayer’s money is the salaries for the fake idiots

Anonymous
1 month ago

Not that the municipal government of Miami gives a sh!t, but this should be a lesson learned to avoid the approval of the Genting Monorail. If public money is spent on what SHOULD be public transit, leave private interests out of it and deliver Miami what we paid for…

Anonymous
1 month ago

Seems to me that the complaints and debacles always occur when the Gov’t is involved.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Brightline trains is a private entity and they sure get complaints about people getting killed by their trains.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Fire the senior staff at SFRTA!!

Anonymous
1 month ago

Doesn’t surprise me

Anonymous
1 month ago

They’ve known since March, when corrective action could have been started, but are just mentioning it now?
What the actual f*¢k!

Anonymous
1 month ago

now this “ICONIC”, embarrassing, unacceptable, painful, ridiculous, disrespectful.
I hope we hear for TNM who will respond and pay for this and that it will be corrected.
thanks to the comments that brought up the issue with Amtrak.

Anonymous
1 month ago

They should have done a few more studies of the studies they originally did

Anonymous
1 month ago

We’re beyond 3rd world.
Heck, some third world countries build amazing transportation systems