New Details About Beckham’s $220 Million Overtown Stadium

Tim Leiweke of Miami Beckham United gave a presentation tonight on what the group is planning for a new soccer stadium.

  • It will be built without parking garages. The focus is on being pedestrian and mass transit friendly, and they count almost 7,000 spaces already in the area.
  • Cost is expected to be about $220 million. A new financial backer will be announced soon.
  • There will be about 25,000 seats.
  • Seats will be covered by a roof. They want the field itself to be under open air for a quality natural turf.
  • The stadium will be LEED certified, and the focus is on making it as environmentally friendly as possible.
  • They will be assessed and pay property taxes. No government or CRA subsidies whatsoever.
  • There won’t be a retail or restaurant component in the stadium. They want area shopping and retail to thrive, and not be contained within the stadium.

 

Concept stadium from Marlins Stadium site, moved to Overtown. Leiweke guarantees the new stadium won’t look like this:

 

 

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Tom
5 years ago

Every once in a while someone does something that restores my belief that good things, even great things are possible. That someone who could use his or her wealth in negative or community-abusive ways can instead do something that is just the opposite. So often in Miami you see the former, with giant developments built by Related, Mana, Berkowitz and others that totally disrespect the neighbors and the needs of our city. If this project moves forward and gets built it will be the most forward thinking, community-friendly development in the country. Yes, the project started with the usual high-profile, typical logic, but the great thing is the thinking evolved. Thank you, Miami Beckham United!

Marc305
5 years ago

My business partners and I were in attendance, and here are a few of my observations about the meeting.

First of all I thought that Tim Leiweke’s presentation was excellent, he has over 30 years experience in this field and has built stadiums all over the world with much success. Many people got up and were allowed to speak for 1 or 2 minutes. The first few were preachers and for a few minutes I felt like I was back in Virginia at a Baptist church, they did mean well and were concerned about being pushed out of this area. A very realistic fear.

There were also home owners concerned about gentrification and that their property value would go down because of the stadium. One of them even had her 9 year old daughter speak into the microphone. In reality the opposite of this is what causes gentrification. With a project like this headed by David Beckham, more than likely property values will go up, making many slum landlords decide to sell to the highest bidder, and as a result property taxes will also go up forcing some owners who cannot afford it to move.

On a different note, Tim can say they will not build retail or restaurants in order not to compete with the locals and not disturbed the neighborhood but this will not stop other people from building fancy expensive restaurants by the water. During Art Basel “Sea Spice” had Ferrari’s and Lamborghinis parked in front and this is two blocks away from where this Stadium will be built. Like it or not Overtown is changing and will continue to do so with so many projects in the pipeline.

On a final note, one lady did have a great comment, she said she rides the Metro everyday and that the station is dirty and nasty. She asked Tim to make sure to clean it up and maybe create a walk way from the Metro to the Stadium, now that is something I totally agree with.

Overall I was very happy I went, being from Washington DC, I have been a soccer fan for many years and I have seen my former home city struggle to get a stadium since the birth of MLS in 1996. Twenty years later they are still playing at RFK and the soonest they expect to have a stadium is 2018. Hearing that Miami will enter the league that same year and with a new stadium made me extremely happy.

Yet Another Anonymous
5 years ago

I thought they were now pushed back to 2020 earliest before a team is actually playing.

Marcel
5 years ago

I live a block away from the location on the other side of the river. This is a great location. We have live here for over 30 years. This will improve the area.

Anonymous
5 years ago

Excelente el comentario! Y gracias por los detalles de la reunión vivo en el exterior y espero ver crecer a Overtown como se merece

Gables
5 years ago

I absolutely love the idea of cleaning up the Metrorail station and adding a walkway. I wouldn’t be surprise if this happens because I remember the Beckham team wanted to do something similar when they proposed a stadium at the port. I understand the worries from the neighbors and I can’t blame them, but I do hope it gets built.

Anonymous
5 years ago

Ufff…I like everything I read and I love the look of the stadium. The best part ? Roof over seats. Thank you. 🙂

Yet Another Anonymous
5 years ago

That is specifically NOT what it will look like. For the purpose of the presentation they just superimposed Marlins proposal over new site.

Anonymous
5 years ago

I was aware of that. The ” look ” I was talking about or excited about was the ” roof over the seats ” part. The Miami sun is nothing to mess with as you may know.

Miami Soccer
5 years ago

Great project and idea !!!!! Will give the chance to many others investors to come to the area……restaurants , parking garages , and many other ….Its a sharing business opportunity !!!

Anonymous
5 years ago

Hay algunos lotes disponibles que con esta noticia se concretarán en proyectos seguramente

Anonymous
5 years ago

Me parece perfecta la ubicación para revalorizar la zona. Ojalá pronto cierren el acuerdo con la Ciudad y sea un hecho!

Yet Another Anonymous
5 years ago

Depende mucho en Miami-Dade water y sewer.

Anonymous
5 years ago

looks great!

Anonymous
5 years ago

Pude ver online unos minutos de la reunion y me parecio positivo el tema de considerar a los vecinos, de explicar, escuchar y ser el primer proyecto que tiene en cuenta un area tan abandonada. Por informacion web el closing de los terrenos privados seria el 29 de febrero, es de suponer que ya estan avanzadas las negociaciones por las tierras de la Ciudad. Los beneficios para los residentes en relacion a la seguridad, transporte, comercio e ingresos es de alto impacto. Deseo que avancen y que sea un beneficio conjunto para privados y para los ciudadanos.

Karl
5 years ago

The Beckaham Group will look at Aviva Stadium in Dublin as an example. It is 25K seats, is in a neighborhood in Dublin and has been a great success. The Architects were Populous. Check out the video clip: https://vimeo.com/25158546

Yet Another Anonymous
5 years ago

25k? Try 55k

marc
5 years ago

Beat me to it.

Yet Another Anonymous
5 years ago

Why thumb down? The Dublin stadium is much larger. Not that that diminishes the point, in fact makes it better. A much larger stadium not only with no parking but in a “car free zone” in the city.

Yet Another Anonymous
5 years ago

But what is cool is the 1 km “no car zone” on game nights. Just the DART or bus or walking. And the bus and walking are all quite a distance, more than the 1/4 mile standard accepted max here. Only the DART goes right to the stadium. I can’t find what their gameday ridership is or just regular daily ridership for that station, but it’s pretty neat.

Anonymous
5 years ago

I googled various images of Aviva stadium and I like how it is tightly nestled in the middle of the community. It is pretty much the elephant in that neighborhood but pretty cool. The video also shows the vendors outside selling food and you can walk to it right from your street if you live there. I don’t know how I feel about it being all glass with our Sun, but that skeletal frame around it is badddd a** f****. I hope Beckham does that same frame. Love that!….

Anonymous
5 years ago

This is excellent the area already has some new projects coming and building the stadium will give it more live.

Anonymous
5 years ago

This is a excellent the area. Excited to see come true. We want MLS.

Anonymous
5 years ago

A new neighborhood is born..!!!

Mondocondo
5 years ago

I think it is going to need some parking and better access.

Tony Geinzer
5 years ago

It is a despardo move, to call it politely. I feel badly that the Miami Community Family is not united in the same way the Dolphins with Marino did. I think being audited forever is a move Principal Gelding (The MLS) and Screech (David Beckham) won’t like. I would feel having a Southern Drake Stadium or even trying to max out the dates like the old “cookie cutter” stadiums , because you’d not have an off weekend.

Anonymous
5 years ago

What have the other stadiums in the county done to improve the neighborhoods theyre in? Some of the folks in this forum are making this sound like it will be transformational for the area. This is a extemely low wage area with no supporting commercial areas in its immediate vicinity. Marlins park is used for about 80 games and what has it done to lure in the same rstaurants and investments that supposedly will fill in for this stadium’s lack of amenities? The MLS regular season is 34 games long, so you can expect about half of those to be home games. Therefore who in their right mind is going to build anything in this area to have business a handful of hours for 15-20 days out of the year???

marc
5 years ago

Besides the home games and possible post seasons you have international matches, tournaments, concerts, as well as music festivals. They’ll probably also have some HS football or soccer matches.

Anonymous
5 years ago

Lets be realistic here..metrorail is too small a system and will only provide access to a very small section of the population. How are folks that live out west supposed to attend games and other events without some adequate parking? To top it off, there is no planned expansion of metrorail in the horizon.

dgm
5 years ago

Well, the AAA has only 939 parking spots and seats 19600. The Miami Heat draw in an audience from all over South Florida. I think the following for Miami MLS will be much more local and they should be able to make do with 900 less parking spots than the AAA. It will be a quite similar experience to going to a Heat game for most.

Anonymous
5 years ago

In the end parking may not be a relevant issue as i doubt people here in miami are going to bother to go watch second division level soccer during the summer months. The soccer fan base here in miami is all about following the FC Barcelona, Real Madrid and Manchester United teams of the world. When have you heard someone say “hey lets get together to watch some MLS” games?? MLS is something you come across by accident when flipping channels, nothing else. People aint gonna bother if it aint an elite team playing, and thats the painful truth.

Marc305
5 years ago

The last time Miami had a team, everything was going against it. The Fusion was supposed to play at the old Orange Bowl but instead they ended up playing in Ft. Lauderdale in a High School Stadium that did not have access to any public transportation and was 34 miles away from Downtown. The owner was Ken Horowitz a business man with no fame or name recognition what so ever, and still we managed to average over 9,400 fans per game, with the last year in 2001 going over the 11,000 mark.

This time around we have the creator of American Idol, the CEO of Sprint, a Stadium that will be 3 blocks away from the Metro in the heart of Miami, and oh yeah let’s not forget that other guy, what’s his name.. David something, who has the pull to bring players with world name recognition to play in our city.

The average MLS attendance now is over 21,000 fans, in a stadium built for 25,000 people this “average” will be more than successful. If you don’t want to come to a live game and prefer to watch Euro Football on the Telly instead, that’s fine stay home and keep flipping through channels, there will be one more sit for a Miami fan.

Anonymous
5 years ago

Excelente! Con 220 millones de dólares de inversión no creo q sean improvisados!! Los comentarios negativos no aportan Miami y Overtown se merecen el estadio alli

Anonymous
5 years ago

Hey anonymous…if you watch MLS games by accident you do not belong here…..

Anonymous
5 years ago

Tiempo al tiempo y EEUU sorprenderá con su liga de fútbol contratando a los mejores de Europa y Latinoamérica. Es una realidad esto recién comienza

BigAl
5 years ago

If you live out west you can easily jump on the Metrorail right in Doral. Get on board and relax as you avoid the traffic to the stadium. Then hop on and take it back to Doral and drive home from station. No fuss commute with the stadium traffic. Open up your mind to a different way of attending local events and embrace the local communities and businesses. Maybe grab a bite to eat after the game at a local bar or restaurant to avoid the initial traffic rush. That’s how I plan to make my Gameday experience.

Marc305
5 years ago

I completely agree BigAl, I don’t live out west but I still plan to take the Metro and definitely hang around after the game at either Garcia’s, Casa Blanca, Sea Spice, or the many other restaurants already in the pipe line just down the street. After getting a snout full, I will pick up my cell and get Uber to take me home. Cheers!

Anonymous
5 years ago

Since when is there Metro Rail in Doral?

Yet Another Anonymous
5 years ago

The westernmost stop Palmetto or Okeechobee is on the border more or less between doral Hialeah and medley.

Anonymous
5 years ago

no parking? no restaurants?This is Miami, no one wants to walk, people are used to cars.. I will admit I’m lazy and pay a premium not to have to park far away and walk into stadiums in this city, let alone be forced to use public transit.. last thing I want is to be sweating and humid having to walk to a railway station blocks away just to go to another station were my car is to then drive home..seems like a mission and half

Anonymous
5 years ago

Thanks for giving a glimpse of West Miami thinking. Stay on your side of the tracks, please. The urban core is finally starting to shun this suburban insanity

Broker305
5 years ago

No retail or restaurant? There is nothing in the immediate area accept for garcias and sea salt. At least open a decent sports bar aka bokampers or ale house.

Anonymous
5 years ago

They can sell hotdogs, peanuts and beer for all I care. I just want to see great games in a cool new stadium.

suomynona
5 years ago

There are plenty of empty buildings and lots in the immediate vicinity that can be developed into dining options over the next several years. It’s not like this stadium is going to be built overnight and without the knowledge of other investors looking to capitalize on deals secondary to the stadium itself.

Anonymous
5 years ago

‘if you build it they will come’…. said david samson.

Suomynona
5 years ago

I’m not saying it WILL bring a lot of redevelopment. I’ve said on other Beckham Overtown stadium stories that I don’t think it will spur large scale redevelopment. (Though I think it can help connect the hospital complex to the soccer stadium to MWC/AAF to mana/Wynwood to Edgewater and the rest of downtown/Brickell over time.)

My point was there is PLENTY of opportunity for restaurants and small eateries to pop up in this area in the next 5 years. Marlins stadium is substantially more isolated from downtown/Brickell and mass transportation. It’s also one of the worst trans/franchises in all if baseball. And most people in south Florida are still upset over the awful stadium deal.

I’d say the Marlins situation is more different from the Beckham situation than it is alike. Just my opinion though.

Anonymous
5 years ago

The speech was anything but impressive. There were no actual plans presented. Completely unprepared. They spent more money on paying and dressing up 30 random men in matching outfits to fill the first 4 rows of seats in the small meeting room than they did on the actual presentation. This caused actual residents and homeowners 2x their age to stand or sit on the floors, some unable to actually even get in the room. Disrespectful to say in the least.

Nothing stated in the presentation offered any plans for mitigation for the immediate area. Everything stated contradicts mitigation and further complicates the areas existing issues with traffic and parking. I heard the jobs speech. Where will these people work? Not in parking, not in retail or restaurant. When will these people work? 1x a week for a few hours of minimum wage? Unimpressive.

No parking. 6800 spaces must include my driveway and our residential streets, because no parking exists in the vicinity. To address this issue they plan to accommodate private boats and boat taxis. I would hate to be out on my boat after a game, dealing with drunk drivers in the tiny suggested canal area. This won’t fly, and I’ll be the first to oppose it.

@Marc305: Gentrification. Spring Garden does not fear gentrification. The current zoning is T6-8 for the proposed lots simply because that is what fits. As the oldest in tact historic neighborhood in Miami, we have strict guidelines to follow. We will always be a single family neighborhood. Building a stadium along historic waterfront single family homes on a small canal does not make sense. We are far from slum lords.

Again @ marc305: Your comment suggesting a child was forced to speak: completely inaccurate. It’s distasteful for a grown man to question the motives of a child actually interested in protecting the environment and what’s important to her. I overheard her ask her mother if she could speak and her mother said yes. At the least you owe that child an apology and should applaud her courage and interest in community involvement. Simply shameful on your part.

When asked stadium height, the mls rep replied 4 stories…. That was the icing on the cake for me. I’d like for him to keep his word on that clearly unrealistic statement.

The privately owned lot already has plans in place that were approved, which included residential and retail/commercial bottom floor. (Something that beckham does not offer.) That would be a much better fit for the area.

Explain how any homeowner would want an open air stadium abutting their property which does not provide parking and furthermore suggests the use of existing residential streets to accommodate the structure, along with unsafe boating practices, marching fans and road closures blocking off access to their homes, offering nothing except soccer in return, would be
in favor of such a mess?

Anonymous
5 years ago

wrong. please move to ft Lauderdale. thanks.

AndrewN
5 years ago

Can’t we have civil posting without being completely dismissive of others concerns. No reason to tell them they are wrong and to move to Ft Lauderdale. Provide a more persuasive counterpoint. Civil discourse is a good thing.

marc
5 years ago

He lost me with the hyperbole to begin with. The gentlemen dressed alike were not random people paid to show up and fill rows. They’re a soccer in Miami and general all around soccer fan club called the Southern Legion so of course they’d be there in numbers to support this.

Anonymous
5 years ago

civil discourse is a good thing. just not with absurd people, such as the author of the ridiculous and nonsensical original comment.

Imperials
5 years ago

Anonymous is the exact example of a NIMBY.

Anonymous
5 years ago

What’s the “existing issue” with parking in Spring Garden? Why does your comment exclude every possible positive externality–such as job creation, increased taxing bases, and neighborhood improvement–and focus only on speculative negative externalities (like possible drunk drivers in the Seybold canal, despite the fact that the team does not currently control any land on the canal)? Why are you so surprised that this project would be proposed for land abutting your neighborhood when your neighborhood is virtually surrounded on every side by intensive uses of land like industrial and marina properties?

Explain to me why this city and, for that matter, any neighbor who actually lives abutting this project, rather than a boat owner in a canal-fronting house in a tony enclave of this city like you appear to be, would not prefer to have a catalyst to redevelopment that puts eyes on the sidewalks to combat crime, that employs local residents, and that creates taxes to fund our schools, police, and roads rather than an empty parking lot and a Miami Dade Sewer & Water maintenance yard for which we receive no tax revenue.

Marc305
5 years ago

First of all if you are going to make angry comments calling people out, have the guts to not hide behind an “Anonymous” moniker. Second, learn to read and understand the content of what I wrote. My comments were based on many people who spoke, some from Overtown who were concerned about gentrification and others who were Spring Garden residents. Two different groups.

I never bother to reply to comments but since you did mention me by name twice let me answer you point by point. Of course you do not fear gentrification, that is because you live in Spring Garden, which the last time I checked its boundaries are the Dolphin Expressway, the Seybold Canal, NW 8th Street Rd, the Miami River, and West 12th Ave. An area that is clearly not Overtown.

Since you are more than likely a friend or family member of the child you want me to apologize to, let me write again what I actually wrote … ” One of them even had her 9 year old daughter speak into the microphone.” That was it. Is that not a fact? Where did I use the word “force”? where did I even suggest it? Learn to read. If that child really wants to ride her bike as she stated she will still be able to do so across the river in her neighborhood and if her parent’s intent was for her to ride on the other side of the river that is poor parenting since that, even now, that is not safe due to oncoming traffic.

I have nothing to be ashamed for, what is shameful is people like you who hide behind a façade pretending to care about your homes when in reality all you want is to keep your affluent area just the way it is so you can ride your boat in peace and at the same time keep an empty lot in Ovetown filled with weeds and trucks from becoming something better.

People like you will use any and every excuse to fight a project like this. From complaining about a street closure to making statement such as … “When asked stadium height, the mls rep replied 4 stories…. That was the icing on the cake for me. I’d like for him to keep his word on that clearly unrealistic statement.”

Interestingly enough, no one from your side of the river seemed to have a problem with height when Arquitectonica announced River Central a 633 unit project on this same lot that would not be 4 stories but actually 8. So be honest, it is not the height that bothers you it is the Stadium.

And you are not fooling anyone with your comment that you are upset that Beckham is not offering any retail/commercial space on the ground floor. If he was you would be complaining that those businesses will close down the mom and pop places by the river. And if his group wanted to build massive parking garages you would again be complaining about how something as awful as that will affect traffic.

You can fight all the battles you want trying to keep your privileged area insulated but in the end you will lose. Thankfully you have 4 people who combined have billions of dollars and have decided to improve an area that badly needs it. Progress will happen whether you like it or not.

suomynona
5 years ago

I really don’t think Spring Garden residents have the right to object to this project.

It is NOT being proposed in Spring Garden. And a 5-lane road, as well as several marinas/boat yards and a canal. The only direct access from Spring Garden East/West to the stadium is a small, 2-lane bridge over the canal that could EASILY be closed on game days so that only residents could enter. You could also do the same along the northern border of the neighborhood on NW 11th St. Your neighborhood can petition the city and pay police out of your own pockets to patrol and restrict access on game days.

Problem solved.

I also fail to see how several hours for ~20 game days/year is a deal breaker over traffic and noise for you. NW 11th St is horribly congested during the evening rush hour. Rush hour occurs for several hours/day for ~250+ days/year. NW 7th Ave and the 5th St Bridge can be delayed for 10+ minutes while the drawbridge goes up. That drawbridge goes up EVERY DAY. Where are your complaints for these issues? Spring Garden logic is simply faulty on this discussion.

And I repeat, it’s not even in your neighborhood. Were Spring Garden residents opposed to the Orange Bowl and Marlins Stadium? I honestly don’t know. But the Orange Bowl site is only roughly twice as far from the center of the Spring Garden neighborhood as the soccer stadium site is.

And better still, what if they orient the field/pitch north/south and have the west stands exceptionally large/tall and the east stands substantially smaller to afford fans a view of the Miami skyline? It would also prevent much of the noise from heading west into your fragile community.

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Now, as far as parking, I’d like to know where they came up with the nearly 7,000 parking spaces. I agree that seems a little…fabricated. Most of the parking lots east of 95 will be gone in a few years. They couldn’t possibly be counting hospital parking, could they? I think they pretty much HAVE to build underground parking underneath the stadium. I agree with the decision not to surround the stadium with hideous parking structures like at Marlins Park. But even a small, 500-1,000 space, 1-2 story, underground garage makes too much sense not to happen. Beckham’s really going to make the rich and famous park on the street in Overtown and walk a couple blocks to the game? No, that’s not happening.

And while I can absolutely see people along the southern US-1 corridor and in the Hialeah area doing a MetroRail park/ride to the stadium, it’s much harder to see those living out by FIU doing so. And where are people from Miami Gardens, Aventura or North Miami (Beach) going to park? They aren’t along MetroRail routes, either. And people in Broward and Palm Beach counties? A 750-spot underground garage with each car containing 2.5 attendees (that a reasonable estimate), is less than 2,000 people, and less than 1/10th the capacity of the stadium. So it’s not like it’s a huge request. Public transportation simply isn’t good enough to have zero parking.

Anonymous
5 years ago

Y los beneficios? No mencionó ni uno al menos en su comentario