Consultant Recommends Restricting Traffic On Ocean Drive Permanently

A team led by architect Bernard Zyscovich has prepared a plan that would make South Beach more pedestrian friendly.

A draft preliminary concept plan was made by the architect last week to the city’s Art Deco Cultural District Panel.

Potential concepts shown during a presentation include:

  • Converting Ocean Drive into a park and pedestrian street. A second option would be making the street pedestrian only.
  • Converting Collins Avenue into a woonerf, where cars share the road with bikes, pedestrians, and transit.
  • Converting Washington Avenue into a transit street with dedicated lanes for buses.
  • Creating a new bus hub and woonerf at Lincoln Road and Washington Avenue.
  • Extending the end of the planned Monorail between Washington and Collins Avenue.

Ocean Drive was closed to automobile traffic during the pandemic, serving as a test for the concept.

According to a city spokesperson, the plan was commissioned by the city, but has not yet been fully vetted by the city’s administration.

 

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Anonymous
28 days ago

Best news for Ocean Drive. This should’ve been done years ago.

Now ACTUAL transit to the beach that starts from Downtown to the beach and then loops back up to the Design District

Anonymous
28 days ago

The Metromover should be extended to the whole Miami and Miami Beach. No tourist wants to take a bus!

Anonymous
28 days ago

What’s the difference between metromover & a bus with a dedicated lane? I’m all for pushing the mover/metrorail everywhere, but I don’t get why people wouldn’t ride the bus if it was convenient

Anonymous
28 days ago

Buses are the transportation of the lower class. These people want a subway system like NY because they are classista and elitists.

Anonymous
28 days ago

“These people want a subway system?”

Who in the hell ever asked for that? Just a simple extension of the Metromover (something that should’ve been done years ago) to Miami Beach and back is all we’re asking for.

Jeez, nobody is asking for a reinvention of the wheel.

Anonymous
28 days ago

“We” are asking for?
What?
Someone please Google “cost per mile” to build a Metromover, and “cost per year” to operate and maintain a Metromover.
Then all the “we”s can get together and put their money in a hat to pay for it.
Idealism is great, but once you think deeply, the cost of Utopia becomes prohibitive.

Anonymous
26 days ago

Instead we will get another mode shift at Herald Plaza Casino for a dorky monorail that drops you at 5th and Alton.

These nuts
28 days ago

Subway ridership is a status symbol ? wtf

Anonymous
28 days ago

I grew up in FL and moved to the northeast and Chicago as an adult. I agree completely with your statement.

Anonymous
28 days ago

Bus with counter flow lanes.

Anonymous
28 days ago

What’s the difference between buses and a Metromover?!
Several billion taxpayer dollars over 10 years.

Anonymous
28 days ago

No metromover. Something like a open tram like San Francisco will be ideal. Hop off hop on for tourists.

Anonymous
28 days ago

And most of them dont take the bus, they usually pay for their own uber, taxi, or Super shuttle.
Miracle of all miracles….South Beach is one of the top hotel markets in the US without Miami taxpayers subsidizing a government train.

Anonymous
27 days ago

Stop taking GOP BS. The reason why Tourists take Uber, cabs, or a shuttle to the Beach is because after 20 years of Republican governors and tostones mentality mayors have left them and Miamians with no other choices to get to their destination.

Anonymous
26 days ago

because the metro is clean. I haven’t taken a bus that was clean, and they usually smell of either foods, diesel or sweaty/piss smell people that just ride around on the as a moving home.

Anonymous
26 days ago

lol… that’s true. And the way people drive in this city, their also dangerous to be on.

Anonymous
28 days ago

What do you mean by “ACTUAL” transit?
Because for at least 30 years, there have busses, taxi’s, cars and vans that have miraculously transported people from Downtown to the beach and to the Design District.

Seems like you cant cross the MacArthur without seeing a 1/2 dozen busses loaded.

Anonymous
27 days ago

People appearantly forget the wait on the causeway because traffic is so backed up. Most people would take the bus or train or monorail or rickshaw if it cuts 30 minutes off the trip to the mainland.

Anonymous
28 days ago

It’s called a monorail, which Genting will help fund. You’re clearly alluding to Metromover, which can’t pay for itself nor possibly accommodate the needed capacity in its current form for any extension.

Anonymous
28 days ago

Good plans. Nothing will improve that area of the beach until we get proper police enforcement. Existing laws are not being enforced. There is a lack of visible police presence besides for a few token weekends. Until city commission makes public safety a priority through allocation of sufficient resources; the problems on the beach will continue.

Anonymous
28 days ago

Okayyyy beach bum… anything else?

Anonymous
28 days ago

Proper police enforcement need all miami. Our streets looks like war zone. Accidents everywhere.

J.M.
27 days ago

I think you are speaking in hyperbole. Our streets do not look like a WaRZoNe. Though yes, police presence could be better.

Anonymous
26 days ago

Haha.. saying that proves you’ve never been to an actual “war zone.”

Anonymous
28 days ago

A elevated rail line should be number one that connects to the metrorail and metromover and yes Ocean Drive should be car less.

Anonymous
28 days ago

Here you go: http://bit.ly/rrcFP6

Anonymous
28 days ago

Just a plain extension of the Metromover over to Miami Beach and back would’ve been much, much cheaper if it would’ve been done years ago.

Anonymous
28 days ago

yep just triple car it

Anonymous
28 days ago

Those clueless hand-wringers who are in charge can’t and don’t understand that simple solution.

Anonymous
28 days ago

First, they need to evict all those trashy tourists that have taken over the beach..

Anonymous
28 days ago

The unemployment+ is about to end, those people will have to get a job eventually and with plane tickets/hotels’ prices going up, it is inevitable that we will get wealthier and classier people to visit our beaches. Be patient!

Anonymous
28 days ago

“Unemployment+” I LOVE IT😂

Anonymous
28 days ago

Yeah, you know, because unemployed people have money to burn.

These nuts
28 days ago

^They do when they’re getting more than they would be working.

Anonymous
28 days ago

When they make more money on unemployment than they made while working, yes they do have money to burn. Also considering that they are skipping on rent that gives a lot more money to waste on our beaches.

Anonymous
28 days ago

^ Gee, you must socialize with a lotta unemployed people everywhere in this country and that’s how know all that?

These nuts
28 days ago

^^Supersized unemployment checks, stimulus checks, per kid payments, rent moratoriums…do the math Einstein

Anonymous
28 days ago

^^^ I guess you didn’t do anything with your unneeded stimulus check but give it away to your nieces and nephews?

These nuts
28 days ago

^^I didn’t get a stimulus check dummy. I make too much for my vote to be bought by a little $1400 handout.

Anonymous
28 days ago

^^^ Sure you didn’t get a stimulus check. I’ve been to Miami Beach and saw professional ball players, singers, and rappers there and I guarantee you they make more money in one month than you make in a year, and you know what?.. nobody gaveafuk they were there… so STFU!!!

These nuts
27 days ago

^^^^^no I never got one but you did and you blew it on bullcrap just like these “vacationers” are doing. Get off your mom’s couch and get a real job and also STFU!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous
26 days ago

^ Haha.. stop lying, you got a stimulus check and you’re just mad because you didn’t get it from your fuehrer, “Donald Krump.” Now take a breach from practicing those “Sieg Heil” salutes in the mirror and get out of the house every now an then and you might learn how to socialize with people of different races.

J.M.
27 days ago

BAHAHHAAH!!! You really think the Spring Break and Urban Beach week crowd are ballers? Can I have whatever you are smoking???

Anonymous
26 days ago

^ Thanks for letting us know that you, J.M., are always there and have been hanging out with the “Spring Break and Urban Beach week crowd” and that’s how you know there are never any “ballers” there. The problem is, you’ve been hanging out with the cheap beer drinking crowd too long.

Anonymous
28 days ago

who in their right mind with money want to come to a play full of low class and violent behaved people !!!!
the South Beach from before 2002 is GONE!!!!!

Anonymous
28 days ago

Well, stay home and play with your XBox then.. who cares?

J.M.
27 days ago

South Beach is still pretty expensive outside Ocean Drive and Collins 5th-15th street. I don’t think those same people are working out at Anatomy or dining at Carbone.

Anonymous
26 days ago

“I don’t think”

lol…

Anonymous
28 days ago

Yes!! Now bring the Metromover to the whole Miami Beach and get some classy tourists in.

Anonymous
28 days ago

No classy tourists in sight. I can get you a instagram models sellin pussy. Orrrr if you prefer, a couple hundred low class thugs that will fight each other and do doughnuts.

Anonymous
28 days ago

Clearly, you haven’t been on that free shortbus full of homeless people stuck on flyover over the river, also known as Metromover.

Anonymous
28 days ago

How the hell does this bullcrap get all these up votes? Is the Metromover mechanics union spamming TNM threads? Are the homeless upvoting from the library computers?

Anonymous
28 days ago

Washington ave needs a redesign, the car parking there and old lanes still in the street look tacky

Anonymous
28 days ago

STOP FOCUSING ON BUSES! Get world class public transportation, the Metromover, è subway system, anything but buses. Buses are third world transportation, Miami deserved better.

Anonymous
28 days ago

New york city,chicago and boston use buses so that makes them third world cities

Anonymous
28 days ago

Who the hell is this “Miami”?

What I know for sure is that Miami Beach is busy. IN SPITE of this Solution in search of a problem.

A Monorail is a WANT not a NEED.

So if the link posted is slightly accurate, $370,000,000 and 3 years to build. How much would “WE” be willing to pay per ticket?
“WE” all know that $370M will build it, then who operates it…a d how much?
Are “WE” going to pay the operating costs too?

Anonymous
28 days ago

Metromover and world class in the same sentence, lewl.

Anonymous
28 days ago

Look, either use the Metromover more efficiently by doing one simple solution like extending it, or tear it down. That’s just like the I-95 off an on ramps in downtown.. either think of a better way to use them, or take them down. I’m tired of all you whiningass people that come on this site and moan an groan about things that’s been in existence before a lot of you were born.

Now, commence with the down votes, I really don’t giveasht.

Anonymous
28 days ago

But where will the guys with micropenises go to rev their engines?

Anonymous
28 days ago

O’look, a “penis” inspector!

Anonymous
28 days ago

I love small penises with big cars

Anonymous
28 days ago

The person who love “guys with micropenises” does also.

Anonymous
28 days ago

looks great!

Anonymous
28 days ago

Get rid of buses already, that’s so 1980. We are in 2021

Anonymous
28 days ago

The buses…

– Shawn Hannity

Anonymous
28 days ago

“Shawn.”

-TDS Mong

Anonymous
28 days ago

I like the ideas for Ocean and Collins, but Washington should be turned into rail transit not bus. Don’t extend the monorail to stop between Washington and Collins; have it turn left and head down Washington all the way to the convention center.

Anonymous
28 days ago

We should replace all buses with rails (under or above ground)!

NYC Loves Miami
28 days ago

Not a bad idea!

Anonymous
28 days ago

Turn it into the new rodeo drive

Dennis
27 days ago

I’m one of those tourists. We love coming to South Beach each year (well, except last year). We were there recently and it has changed from our last visit. I’ve always enjoyed the mix of people on Ocean-blacks and whites, Hispanic and Asian, straight or LGBT-it all worked. This last trip felt like a problem looking for a place to happen. Group of people hanging out with loud music blocking the sidewalks just waiting fir someone to stay something. Not a great day to keep the tourist dollars flowing. Whether that has to do with the lack of cars, I don’t know, but doubt. IMO, though, better enforcement of the laws in place would help. Basically, Collins traffic seems to have gotten worse. It was bad enough before, now it has the Ocean traffic on top of it.

Anonymous
27 days ago

The Covid pandemic had something to do with it to.

Anonymous
28 days ago

Bus is mostly used for the people that work in hotels. I doubt tourists or other demographics are using buses on South Beach.
Is nice to see Lummus with more trees, but some of the big events that were taken place between the dunes and the current park are not going to be able to take place any more.

Anonymous
28 days ago

that’s not true, have you listened to any of the presentation

Anonymous
27 days ago

YES YES YES YES YES!!!!! MAKE ALL OF THIS HAPPEN NOW!!!!!!!!!!!! The more pedestrian friendly the better!

Marilu ..resident
28 days ago

Keep it pedestrian.
Boom boxes or loud music on cruising cars don’t let people in restaurants talk to each other or have a meal with the restaurants own music or ambiance.

Azarius
28 days ago

I’m tired of ppl acting like this problem just started on south beach! Like for yrs before south beach has never been this rowdy place that locals never visit. Like unemployment jus opened the floodgates. No unemployment kept money flowing thur when the rest of the country was really on lock down. Not saying what has taken place over the last yr is right b/c it’s not. But this ain’t just start happening 2020!

Anonymous
28 days ago

No matter the form the businesses and patrons will remain the same, and it isnt going to change the image and investment properties get.

Anonymous
28 days ago

This is ridiculous. Ocean drive has always been about the driving lap on ocean. Miami doesnt use pedestrian walking and its a car city. Stop trying to change that. It’s 1000 degrees outside with 200% humidity and nobody wants to walk. Instead come up with a real plan that includes the car as part of the solution. Plus try finding parking on the beach. At any time. Impossible. Making it more pedestrian and eliminating more streets would kill the beach even more.
Oh berni, stop fuking shit up and keep painting your underline you bright green

Anonymous
28 days ago

200% humidity would mean its raining.

Anonymous
27 days ago

It’s May 26th and the weather is still fine for walking. Lose a few dozen pounds and get moving.

Shawn Kouri
28 days ago

OK I’m in favor of things like this but when it comes down to South Beach on streets like Washington Avenue, Collins Avenue, and Ocean Drive, I’m not sure if I like the idea because if you convert part of the street into a pedestrian and cycling zone, it will cause even more congestion because you’re using the one lane. So it technically makes it worse. Or if you were to convert Ocean Drive into what they are referring to as a Hollywood boardwalk type experience, how are cars going to access the restaurants and bars. Also, when it comes down to Washington Avenue, I don’t think there’s enough room to convert part of the street into busways.

Anonymous
28 days ago

Ocean Drive has been carless for some time now and restaurants are packed so no issue there.

Anonymous
28 days ago

Taking the drive out of Ocean Drive it’s not a good idea.

Anonymous
28 days ago

Lately it’s become Ocean Ghetto anyways

Anonymous
28 days ago

No problem.. it’ll become Gay Drive again in no time!

Anonymous
28 days ago

Yaaaaaaaaas!🔥

Anonymous
28 days ago

The Elephant in the ROOM!!

let me tell you something, when the gays were predominantly
on that area, the crime was minimal or none, except from bigots like you, that hates gays! the 1990’s was the best time, there were lot of gays bars but also straight bars and restaurants, you could be on the streets at night or on the beach without being assaulted, and now what do you have??…

violent behavior, beating up, fights on the streets and restaurants, women dresses like cheap hookers and people doing drugs or running cars doing willies in the middle of the street, It’s in the news almost every night.!!!!

In the 1990 and early 2000’s straight and gay people of any part of the planet used to come to SOBE and feel safe and enjoyed the Beach !! now everybody is trying to find the solution… and the solution is get rid of the low class ( of any race, color and orientation) that is acting like Animals and screwing the people that live or have business in that area!!!

Anonymous
28 days ago

I’d love to hear when was the last time you have gotten assaulted in Miami Beach. I walked through Little Haiti (a worse neighborhood) for 4 years and never got assaulted. Woman will dress like cheap hookers no matter what (its Miami Beach). Also drugs were always a thing in South Beach, and the gay community is big on them too (poppers and meth).

Miami Beach is for everyone and shouldn’t only be for the high-class. I’m apart of the low class and I’ve never caused trouble, should I be excluded too?

Anonymous
28 days ago

I’ve never been assaulted or seen anybody get assaulted there but one time about twenty years ago on Miami Beach I did see a huge gathering of white gay men wearing leather outfits with a big hole in the back of their pants to show off their asses wearing thongs.

True story.

Anonymous
28 days ago

Those were the Village People!!

Anonymous
28 days ago

lol….

Anonymous
28 days ago

My response to you was cancelled .. I guess because was not PC!!
I never been assaulted, I stop going there since 2010…
But go ahead, watch the local news … plenty of violence and people being assaulted 😡.. May be you’ve been lucky!

Anonymous
28 days ago

😳You won’t be exclude for being low class ( that have nothing to do with money) but for acting low class!!!

Anonymous
25 days ago

🙏🏽 Amen ….

Anonymous
28 days ago

You guys may not agree and that’s fine but I believe taking away cars only made things worse. No cars encourages more foot traffic causing bigger crowds! With no people in the streets having to use those small sidewalks somewhat helped to control the crowds. Again you may not agree but this is my own personal observation…

Anonymous
28 days ago

If we had cars, those trashy tourists will be driving those rentals recklessly and it would be even worse. What made it worse is the cheap prices and free money handouts that attracted trashy people with some temporary spare money.

Moishe Mana
28 days ago

You sound stupid!

Azarius
28 days ago

I’m praying for you all smh

Anonymous
28 days ago

Praying is as effective as using bleach for Covid😂

Anonymous
28 days ago

Heyyyy… injecting bleach to kill the covid virus is my idea!

– Donald Trump

Anonymous
28 days ago

“TWO MASKS!”

-Dr. Fauxchina

Anonymous
27 days ago

And he’s never been diagnosed with the Covid virus.

Anonymous
26 days ago

Doctors?.. prrffhhh!.. I know more than doctors…

– The Orange One