Dade Board To Consider Urging Switch From Monorail On Beach Corridor

Miami-Dade’s Citizens’ Independent Transportation Trust is scheduled to vote this week on a resolution asking the county to reconsider its plan to build a monorail to Miami Beach.

Changing to another system now would likely cost a significant amount of time and money.

The monorail system is already in the planning and engineering phase, following a county vote in October 2020 to move forward with the plan.

A Metrorail or Metromover system would also be more costly to build, previous county studies showed. A consortium has already agreed to privately build and operate a monorail system at a relatively low cost in exchange for payments from the county.

A Metromover system would attract more riders than a monorail however, the same study showed.

According to the text of the resolution, the CITT board would “urge” Miami-Dade County and the Miami-Dade Transportation Planning Organization “to pursue a technology and route that provides a direct connection between Metrorail and Miami Beach without the need for a transfer.”

Reconsidering the Monorail technology would maximize ridership potential and cost-effectiveness, the resolution states.

The CITT meeting is scheduled for October 28.

The CITT resolution scheduled to be considered:

A previous county analysis of each potential mode ultimately recommended either Monorail or Metromover:

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Anonymous
1 month ago

the good thing about metromover is that it will reduce the number of transfers. i hope they find a way to make it run faster

Lechozo
1 month ago

with less bends and stops, metromover could get to a decent speed. The current iteration was designed to be slow

Anonymous
1 month ago

Downtown and Miami Beach are only three miles apart.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Can they configure a train to the beach that has more seating but within the same metromover module?

Anonymous
1 month ago

^
If needed, why not? This ain’t rocket science or setting up a colony on Mars.

Anonymous
1 month ago

My bet would be that we have a colony on Mars before our county leaders decide to move forward on anything to Miami Beach. They have been talking for decades.

Anonymous
1 month ago

They should demand that the monorail come all the way to the downtown metrorail station. It would probably be cheaper

Anonymous
1 month ago

What happens when it arrives in Miami Beach? How does a visitor get to their hotel?

Anonymous
1 month ago

Uber/Lyft or walk…

Anonymous
1 month ago

“What happens when it arrives in Miami Beach? How does a visitor get to their hotel?”

Taxi, Uber, Lyft, Bus, Trolley, or drag thrir luggage and kids down train platforms and then walk.

Anonymous
1 month ago

And about a thousand buses a day already connect the two.

Tom
1 month ago

We can send a helicopter to Mars

William
1 month ago

There is a model available which can go much faster. Plus the county just signed a big contract to fix the train signals.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Any update on the public comment link that was taken down after only a couple days?

Anonymous
1 month ago

apparently the new $54M upgrades will allow it to. And it can, just system limitations prevented it from going faster.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Metro Mover need new cars modern that are both faster and larger for greater capacity that allows passengers to sit comfortably.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Crystal Movers, like the ones on the MIA Mover should do the trick.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Those can’t operate on the existing downtown system. Two completely different manufacturers and systems.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Schematics for the trunk line to South Beach show Crystal Movers on the tracks. The manufacturer is irrelevant since the metromover has had two separate manufacturers for their cars.

Anonymous
1 month ago

This ain’t getting built unless Genting gets its casino on the former Herald property.

Bandit
1 month ago

The county is already spending millions on upgrades and improvements to the metro mover and extending it to the design district. Why build a completely separate transit system?!

Anonymous
1 month ago

Because there’s clueless people in office. Thirty years of a MetroMover system and these bozos are still scratching their heads on how to extend it.

William
1 month ago

Exactly. And they are going to use the excuse of the termination fee that they stupidly agreed to as an excuse for why we can’t extend the Metromover.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Extend the Metromover and charge people to ride on it, they’ll pay. Heck, we already have free trolleys.

Anonymous
1 month ago

The reason the metromover is free is because it was actually cheaper to charge nothing than to charge a fare. The fare was bringing in less money than the system to collect it cost the county lol

Anonymous
1 month ago

^
I said, “extend the Metromover and charge people to ride on it.”

You’re talking about something that was decided on a long time ago.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Yep, and way before any idea it should be expanded beyond Greater Downtown Miami.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Correct lol. Super dumbooooo

Anonymous
1 month ago

Don’t blame them…. blame voters….always re electing these useless “leaders”

Anonymous
1 month ago

Um, you mean a “study.”

Anonymous
1 month ago

This is hilarious.
We won’t see ANY type of rail connection in our time.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Agree, especially they haven’t even started the studies of which type of rail to use.

Anonymous
1 month ago

You ain’t lying. A system should’ve been built at least twenty years ago.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Haha.. but the city can get a billion dollar over land bridge that looks like a giant spider and a double deck highway in no time… smh.

Anonymous
1 month ago

But it will look gorgeous.
We didn’t get the tower at Bayside but at least we got the bridge

Anonymous
1 month ago

Normally would say don’t let perfection be the enemy of good… but in this case, monorail really is a bad choice.

metromover isn’t perfect, but it’s miles ahead of monorail and introducing a new mode of transit in our system.

Anonymous
1 month ago

I hope you’re right! Nobody on the Beach wants this.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Better! But should be a metrorail line

Anonymous
1 month ago

That will never happen!

Anonymous
1 month ago

Absolutely

Anonymous
1 month ago

Add a new transfer station at NW 3rd Ave, World Center, Museum Park (Mover transfer), Watson Island, Alton Road, terminating at Collins/Ocean.
Then people might actually use Metrorail to get to and from the airport.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Nah.. a MetroMover line will do fine.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Well the resolution says “a direct connection between Metrorail and Miami Beach,” so “direct” should mean no transfer, as directly from the east-west platform at Government Center Station, or another line from the Overtown curve.

N.P.
1 month ago

No where in the entire county does an extension of the MetroRAIL make more sense. Linking two of the densest areas in the region together with fast rapid transit is a no brainer.

MetroMOVER comes in pretty close second and 100 places down, below rickshaw transit is monorail

Anonymous
1 month ago

Unless the Metrorail is ran throughout Miami Beach, then it’s a huge waist of money. The residents on Miami Beach already said they don’t want a Metrorail system there because it’s too big, bulky, and makes too much noise.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Waste
Waist is on your gut

Anonymous
1 month ago

Waste is what someone see going in your mouth.

Anonymous
1 month ago

When did they say this? 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 years ago?

Anonymous
1 month ago

Son, do you pay attention to anything besides music videos?

Anonymous
1 month ago

Finally someone gets it..

Anonymous
1 month ago

Hey, look on the bright side. At least they’re not talking about scrapping the monorail (completely stupid idea to begin with) and proposing “bus rapid transit” instead, like they are in other parts of the county. When are these brain-dead elected officials going to understand what nearly everyone else understands, that in order to make public transit successful and maximize ridership, you must make it comfortable, fast, appealing and provide seamless inter-connectivity? Instead, they are always trying to lower the upfront cost, which always guarantees inadequate ridership and thus permanent, long-term operating deficits.

T G
1 month ago

This is what will happen: The powers that be will change this to a “rapid bus transit” system, and the meager funds that get allocated for this will line the pockets of corrupt city leaders, and nothing will get built.

Anonymous
1 month ago

At this point, I am 50/50 on whether even “rapid bus transit” will happen. These effing goofs are finally considering what most people already knew… a 23rd type of public transit doesn’t make any sense. These bums are either very stupid to need this long to realize this fact or, they are smart enough to be able to con the Miami citizenry out of their tax money for 2 decades.

Robin Stan
1 month ago

Oh my for the love of God please. Everything about that Monorail screams “gimmick.”

Anonymous
1 month ago

Just like in Springfield.

Anonymous
1 month ago

You don’t need a Monorail system.. just run the MetroMover to Miami Beach and problem solved.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Metromover was the biggest 1970s gimmick to make Goodyear rich using low-capacity trains with their tires and constantly break down. No other APM system in the country expanded for a reason.

Anonymous
1 month ago

The Metromover run on tires because they keep the system much quieter when running. Break downs are because the funding for the system is very, very low due to it being free to ride on. let your sister or brother use your car for a year and check it out when you get it back. People like you expect a top notch system on EBT spending.

transplant
1 month ago

Bite the bullet and extend the Metro through Dodge Island and into South Beach. Then, extend it over the Brightline tracks into Wynwood, Midtown, Design District, etc.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Just think, instead of scratching their heads about what to do, they could’ve extended the MetroMover to those places at least four years ago.

Broward Intruder
1 month ago

I agree. I’m all for an expanding and mass transit in Miami but this separate elevated monorail line proposed along the MacArthur Causeway if beyond idiotic!

Not only from a connectivity stand point and also will destroy on of the most iconic drives in South Florida! It should be MetroRail through Dodge Island with a stop for the cruise ports.

Not sure about the logistics/roadblocks, but I don’t understand why Miami didn’t incorporated a future metro line into the design when building the Port Tunnel to Dodge years ago?

Anonymous
1 month ago

No.. extend the Metromover across MacArthur Causeway at ground level and if later Miami Beach wants to further extend it throughout, they can.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Watch Karen lose control of her RAV 4 and smash into a train.

Anonymous
1 month ago

God forbid, destroy an “iconic” drive, but let’s ruin streets with Metromover flyovers and expect development with street level interaction…

Anonymous
1 month ago

Agreed.
IF Gov’t needs to connect areas that are already connected, a Metrorail extension from Gov’t Center east to the Port at Dodge Island, still underground to a stop at Wash & 5th in 33139, a stop at the Convention Center & Wash, a stop around 41st Street & Pinetree, turning west to the Design District/Midtown, and then connecting to the the MetroRail that continues to the airport.

Or, just run a thousand busses a day for a fraction of the cost.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Should be metro rail, with a stop in the port, then a swing bridge over government cut then into south beach

Anonymous
1 month ago

I swing bridge over government cut… is that a joke 🤣🤣🤣

Anonymous
1 month ago

A swing bridge is the only way to cross the channel besides a tunnel, any other type of bridge isn’t feasible at that height and length and rail type

Anonymous
1 month ago

A “swing bridge?”

Um yeah, sure.. let’s make shit more expensive and complicated than it has to be… haha!

Anonymous
1 month ago

The county was going to pay 2 billion for a monorail it doesn’t even control, my plan is a lot better and if it costs 2 billion then it’s a better use than a monorail

Anonymous
1 month ago

^
I would suggest you read that Monorail proposal again.

Anonymous
1 month ago

The A train on the New York Subway uses two separate swing bridges on the rail connection to the Rockaways. Not that hard to construct. It’s just the red tape and corruption will screw things

Anonymous
1 month ago

^
NYC has a population of about eight million people. Miami doesn’t compare.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Imagine the cost. Cruise ships will be impeded, similar to the Brickell bridge. Instead of one bottleneck we would have two. Definitely not happening.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Cruise ships run on fairly set schedules (arrive 4am-6am, depart 4pm-6pm) so it’s not nearly as bad as the Brickell bridge, where boats force the bridge open at all times.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Can utilize the same tracks that Brightline will use to get to the port. Probably potential for FEC to contribute funds towards the swing bridge if Brightline is allowed to serve the Miami Beach station as well.

Whole project would cost a fraction of any other proposal, take the least amount of time to build, and not ruin the beautiful drive that is the causeway

Anonymous
1 month ago

YES

POLO
1 month ago

Best idea ever, but do it NOW, not in ten years from now with an infinite number of studies.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Yes!

Azarius
1 month ago

This is ridiculous come on Miami. Let’s get this right! We have more technology and information available but you still want to add a third system to a already mind boggling transit system. MIA to the beach via MetroRail running on the line from the airport (along 79th) to Miami Central to the port to south beach via tunnel! One system

Anonymous
1 month ago

Way too much common sense to be considered

Anonymous
1 month ago

Common sense, what’s that?..

Anonymous
1 month ago

If it’s not done correctly, don’t do it at all. I hope it gets veto’d because we NEED Metrorail extensions.

Anonymous
1 month ago

I’ve never really grasped this monorail concept….Genting operates casinos …not transportation … so I’m skeptical about their motive….and the fact it begins at the old herald property instead of govt center is insanity

Anonymous
1 month ago

It’s another scheme to get Chinese made products into the US , through a third party, Malaysia. Stop doing business with Communist China.

Anonomer
1 month ago

they should build a metromover stop on the monorail stop

Anonymous
1 month ago

I’d rather have metromover than a separate system but I hope everyone realizes sometimes you just have to pick your battles. There seems to be an increasing chance that now we will get *nothing* because it’s so difficult to break through all the layers of Miami’s bureaucracy. When you FINALLY DO make some progress, sometimes better to just bite your tongue and move forward. Hope this all works out

Anonymous
1 month ago

“A Metrorail or Metromover system would also be more costly to build, previous county studies showed”

You mean, running the Metromover at ground level on MacArthur Causeway to Miami Beach is too expensive?

With these clowns in office, no wonder anything that make sense never gets done in this town.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Any system requires a lane to be rebuilt for the rail, electricity, etc., and then people will complain about losing a lane.

team mertomover
1 month ago

Who is in charge of this dumb monorail idea ? Do they think people from miami are dumb enough to buy this crap ? The monorail is a way to steal The tourists from south beach and bring them to Gantings new casino.

Please build the metomover extension to south beach.

Anonymous
1 month ago

At least they can spell “mertomover.”

Anonymous
1 month ago

But you sure can’t spell it…

Anonymous
1 month ago

You can have a monorail and a metromover. As long as the metromover can add more cars to increase the speed of transporting people and its a simple connection to the monorail it should be no problem

Anonymous
1 month ago

It is a problem, because it creates another transfer from metrorail downtown to the monorail. The monorail should go all the way to Metrorail downtown, or it (monorail ) should be cancelled.

John
1 month ago

Why not use metrorail from government center through the stupid tunnel to the port.
They should have used it for rail anyway to the port then along the causway to Miami Beach by the way what about the drawbridge is the train going to stop for boats. Or is there going to be a tunnel all the way to the beach . Have a stop at the Port and then South Beach and there they could use metro mover up to Lincoln rd. Mall.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Couldn’t wait to come see the comments for this post… It’s the easiest decision ever! Problem is… Neither the mayor nor any commissioners ever use public transportation. It’s like deciding which private space rocket is best… None of us would know, we’re just guessing. lol

Anonymous
1 month ago

I am confused. Just extend metrorail all over miami , west, north, miami beach, hard rock stadium because i hate to drive in this city.

Anonymous
1 month ago

A transfer at omni station is dumb please extend the metromover ..

Anonymous
1 month ago

It could’ve an should’ve been done at least ten years ago.

Anonymous
1 month ago

A transfer from Government Center Station to Metromover is dumb, too. Read the resolution.

Anonymous
1 month ago

MetroRAIL, PLEASE! MetroMOVER would require a complete rebuild.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Over100 posts and none talk about the costs.

At what price?

Who pays for it?

Miami and Miami Beach are already connected by a 1,000 buses.

And momma’s boys say, “But I dont like buses. They are for poor people. They aren’t cool enough for me to take my date to the Clevelander. SOMEONE ELSE BUY ME WHAT I WANT!!! THIS IS A NO-BRAINER!!!”

Anonymous
1 month ago

This is Miami not Cleveland, Miami deserves WORLD CLASS TRANSIT not GREYHOUND BUS

El Tigeraso
1 month ago

This is MIAMI! At a minimum, why isn’t there rail from the Airport to Miami Beach?! It’s why people come here. I live in Homestead and am astounded that the working class people out in homestead ,Kendall, suburbs must endure such traffic. So we are latin american and we run this town like it’s latin america..bass akwards. Let’s run it the way our parents dreamed this place could be. Reject traffic and embrace and support rail. EV’s are still cars, they don’t help with time and traffic…lets get our lives back a little. Also, with less automobile dependence comes more disposable income…which is good for all businesses and strengthens our local economy.

El Tigeraso
1 month ago

Anyone here ever been to London? Get a clue and do THAT but with monorail. They also have busses that people actually WANT to get on, you really don’t need a car there.

John
1 month ago

A blot on the cityscape.