Dade Now Drafting Legislation To Fund Rail Expansion With Property Tax

Miami-Dade could create special districts around proposed rail lines, with legislation now being written, according to the Herald.

Property values are expected to increase around the new rail lines. Only that increase will be subject to a higher rate (taxes would remain the same on current values), and bonds could be issued based on the increase that is being forecast.

In addition to these districts, Dade is considering other options to fund rapid transit, including:

One lobbyist said that there are multiple private companies waiting to bid on a potential public-private partnership to build the new rail lines.

The county is budgeting $31 million this year for studies, which could eventually lead to state and federal reimbursement of up to 75 percent of the costs of the new lines. Those studies could take between one and five years however, and Miami Beach recently decided to build a streetcar without waiting for federal funding.

 

 

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Gables
5 years ago

I’m glad it took them literally decades to come up with this plan. Now let’s see if it will come to fruition. Meanwhile, there is no plan for expanding transit in the urban core, which has seen tremendous growth. Metromover expansion from its current terminus at School Board to Midtown via Miami Ave would be huge. This current plan only serves suburban areas.

Anonymous
5 years ago

Gables, if you look at the map, the MetroMover extension up N Miami Av to Midtown is there.

miami1
5 years ago

Nope, that is the Beach Corridor and Beach Express not Metromover….

Anono
5 years ago

Metromover also needs an expansion to the West. Brickell and Downtown are starting to push west of I-95 and the metromover mostly runs near US1

Yet Another Anonymous
5 years ago

Second Avenue Metromover

CommonSense
5 years ago

Expand Metromover to Overtown?

CommonSense
5 years ago

Getting people to and from the suburbs is the plan. You already have Metro Mover/Metro Rail and a host of other bus routes in Downtown Miami.

Rod
5 years ago

Better late than never. The extension down the dolphin expressway towards FIU should’ve been done years ago.

CommonSense
5 years ago

Yup! There is already a rail line that runs along perimeter road alongside the expressway and airport. It runs all the way to the western neighborhoods. Of course, Rapid Transit would need to be ran south along the Palmetto expressway. It would be difficult, but it can be done. An overpass would need to be made across the Palmetto Expwy so that students taking the train to FIU would need to bypass to get to the campus.

Anonymous
5 years ago

Everybody is in favor of this, so make it happen asap.

Anonymous
5 years ago

I get the feeling I won’t be seeing this in my lifetime. . . and I’m 26. lol.

Anonymous
5 years ago

what happened to the penny tax they put in a decade ago for public transportation…..oh I forgot they spent it on highways in doral and kendall for all the house moms to drive minivans

bitg
5 years ago

so yea, it was a half penny tax, and the money collected for that mainly went to buses and raises for bus drivers. now the money is used to barely maintain the current fleet of transportation

CommonSense
5 years ago

LOL So true…

Anonymous
5 years ago

damn them soccer moms.

Anonymous
5 years ago

All Dade County will benefit from this……everywhere , it doesn’t matter if it is not right next , parking lots next to the stations will be created and everybody will have access …

Jaime L.
5 years ago

Are any of these metro rail extensions ? If so which ones ?? ….still bothers me that this all could been done years ago. We should of had 5 extra metro rail lines.

marc
5 years ago

No Metro Rail.

Anonymous
5 years ago

Metro Rail extensions would have been more feasible because the infrastructure is already there. There really is no sense in building a completely different infrastructure to add on to the already existing infrastructure, that is just bad urban design. I have been saying from the get go that the US1 busway is a joke and should have been used to lay track for Metro Rail.

Anonymous
5 years ago

Indeed agreed.

Anonymous
5 years ago

Also the company making our new metro rail trains just built a big new manufacturing plant right here in Miami to produce them and yet no metro rail extensions planned.

Anonymous
5 years ago

No kidding.

Anonymous
5 years ago

I don’t think property taxes should be the solution. Why not tax gasoline further. Transportation should be taxed with transportation. Property taxes has nothing to do with this. Taxing gasoline will encourage people to opt for mass transit.

Anonymous
5 years ago

Direct access to mass transit is an amenity. New Yorkers have known this for years. It does make sense for property in proximity to mass transit to be taxed.

Jesus
5 years ago

I want this plan to come to fruition but if you study history, you’d be pessimistic. We already passed a “master plan” in 2002 and we came up short. I say we do this: everyone from here, Skyscrapercity, the voters to go to the people in charge of this “master plan” and demand they get it right!

Elena
5 years ago

I have a question.

On the map of the first diagram. What are those short little broken red lines shown where the red line(rapid transit) meets the blue line(metro rail) …there is one in Hialeah in the (1) North corridor.

Is that some sort of connection between both transit systems or something ?

Thanks in advance.

MrCommonSense
5 years ago

I believe that is an overlap between the already existing Metro Rail route and the planned new route for light rail transit. Quite frankly, they should just expand the already existing Metro Rail. There really is no need to rebuild upon another infrastructure when the infrastructure is already there. It works great and heavy rail cars carry much more people than light rail cars do. That is a fact.

Anonymous
5 years ago

The M.R. extension would make a lot sense because if I’m riding metro rail towards the north corrider/hialeah and want to head to FIU, I would have to get off one train system and then get on another train system ? *sigh*. Lol. Crazy. I hope at least there is some sort of a transfer fee waiver.

MrCommonSense
5 years ago

It is crazy, but it’s better than nothing. If they want this to be idealistic, the new train system needs to be prompt to the stations. I’m sure it will since it is a newer technology and the cars weigh less. Also, speaking of the North corridor, do people realize that the train and the stations would have to be elevated above 27th Ave? Something very similar to that design is done in Chicago with their heavy rail RTA platform done in their downtown “loop”. Just my $0.02.

MrCommonSense
5 years ago

A transfer fee waiver would be more than necessary just like with the bus-to-rail transfers.

Anonymous
5 years ago

I hope this gets done real quick. The connection to FIU will be a great thing. I actually hope that one comes first.

MrCommonSense
5 years ago

Done real quick? Don’t count on it. This could possibly take another 15-20 years before it’s all said and done.

Fredric
5 years ago

Now let’s just do this. Never mind the past mistakes and misappropriated funds, the broken promises. It is desperately needed and finally the government officials are figuring out how serious and committed the great majority of residents are about the need for vastly improved transit. So rather than squabbling and naysaying, just get behind it and look to the future, not to the past!

Anonymous
5 years ago

Easier said than done.

CommonSense
5 years ago

The North Corridor train would need to be ran above 27th Ave. Stations would need to be built above 27th Ave.

Duh
5 years ago

Why not just continue to expand upon the Metro Rail that is already in existence? Besides, heavy rail cars carry more people than light rail does.

Peep
5 years ago

This should have been done years ago.

Trust?
5 years ago

The County cannot be trusted. Alice Bravo cannot be trusted. County insiders make all the tax money disappear onto more pay and benefits for public sector employees.

MrCommonSense
5 years ago

Sadly you are correct.

Anonymous
5 years ago

Yeah Alice Bravo has to go.

MrCommonSense
5 years ago

My only complaint with this project is that if a whole new infrastructure is going to be implemented to coexist and play nice with the already existing Metro Rail infrastructure, how feasibly is it going to be to jump off the Metro Rail and hop on another train? It would work nice, but it needs to be engineered to work properly. If one is pouring in $31 million in “studies and planning” for this project, they had better include that into the conversation.

Anonymous
5 years ago

We need to update it still i think if we are suppose to grow as a city we need to have a great transit system like nyc and LA.

Anonymous
5 years ago

I agree. But NYC and LA are the two largest cities in America.

Anonymous
5 years ago

Yes and hopefully we can get near that level

Anonymous
4 years ago

Hah!!!

Anonymous
5 years ago

They should open more in downtown. Many people complain about our transportation. But good step forward.

Anonymous
5 years ago

Um, how would they differentiate the property tax increase due to proximity to Rail, with the standard usual yearly increase in a propert’s value ? Sounds like they will tax u at the higher rate for both.

Mike04
5 years ago

they take the base year then any increase past that base year will be taxed with the new tax.

Anonymous
5 years ago

Ok, let’s take a consensus vote here at TNM. To fund this plan,would you prefer a property tax increase, or a increase in the gasoline tax ?

Mike04
5 years ago

Both, get it done as quickly as possible.

marc
5 years ago

By any means necessary like yesterday.

CommonSense
5 years ago

You might end up getting some Federal funds thrown in there too… but not if Trump is president.

Anonymous
4 years ago

We are sacrificing our streets for rail based street cars, has not worked anywhere else with meaningful success, all of the powers to be have not considered any alternative. This is a $100,000,000/mile system that will see rails, trains, and train stops littered over our streets. Something smells with this deal, an amazing level of confidence from our elected officials. Billions of dollars being spent or approved today, the effects of construction and huge operating costs to paid by citizens. No public vote planned and no recent usage study. I am calling on our law enforcement agencies to conduct an investigation. It it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, it’s a duck!

CommonSense
5 years ago

“Those studies could take between one and five years however…”

In other words, it’s not going to happen. Remember the half penny tax? Remember all the promises in the past? Gone. Up in smoke. A dream never came true. But it is nice to fantasize and dream about the project though!

Anonymous
5 years ago

Too little too late. With gasoline prices at historic lows, you need a 10 cent tax on gasoline to build a viable rail network quickly. Think out of the box.

CommonSense
5 years ago

By the time this project comes to fruition and is actually a reality more than a dream, the price of gas will be $5/gal. You think out of the box.

Anonymous
5 years ago

Why should property owners be responsible? So if you are renting you don’t pay for it? Everyone drives here. The solution is to tax gasoline. When gas was at 4$ a gallon, it encouraged people to take mass transit. That is the solution and everyone bears the cost.

miami1
5 years ago

Because being close to mass transit corridors increases property values…

Anonymous
5 years ago

@miami1 that statement is not necessarily true -The Allapattah, Civic Center and Brownsville Area, are the lowest property values in the county. As well as increasing property taxes to these which are mostly owned by working class families trying to survive in order for those living in West Dade and other sub areas to have access to mass transit system in order for them to get to urban core is unfair. Gasoline tax all the way. equal share for everyone.

CommonSense
5 years ago

I agree, but in the article it is stated that property taxes would increase around the “new” rail lines. Nonetheless, the new rail lines would cut through a myriad of neighborhoods.

Duh
5 years ago

You’re right that would be taxing the poor and giving to the upper middle class and affluent. They’ll have to figure it out. I know they will. They are elected Miami-Dade county officials and they know what they are doing. What could go wrong?