Dade Transportation Committee Votes To Study Elon Musk Tunnel As A Faster & Cheaper SMART Plan Alternative

Miami-Dade’s Transportation Planning Organization Fiscal Priorities Committee voted yesterday in favor of moving forward on an analysis of a potential tunnel by Elon Musk’s The Boring Company.

The potential study is now on track for a full vote by the TPO’s board, according to Miami Herald reporter Doug Hanks.

According to the resolution voted on yesterday, new tunneling techniques may be able to provide cheaper alternatives for Miami Dade’s SMART Plan.

The advances in tunneling include new “recent and emerging technologies” that should be studied, according to the resolution.

In addition to lower costs, the advancements may also allow for faster completion. The Boring Company’s Las Vegas Loop is specifically mentioned in the resolution as a project that was completed quickly and should be studied.

The Brickell tunnel could also get a jump start from the new tunnel tech. The new study would update the 2017 Miami River Tunnel Feasibility Study, the resolution says.

If approved by the board, the TPO Executive Director would be directed to prepare a scope of services and budget to evaluate advancements in tunneling technology.

Miami Mayor Francis Suarez, who is also a TPO board member, sponsored the resolution.

A vote by the full board is scheduled for June 17.

 

 

 

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Anonymous
12 days ago

Another “STUDY”…….. get shit done!

POLO
12 days ago

And then they are going to do a study of the study!

Anonymous
12 days ago

The study of the study came back it says they need another study.

Anonymous
12 days ago

…and that study will require another study.
They will spend more on studies than the construction costs of the project, assuming the project even gets approved during the perpetual string of studies.

Anonymous
12 days ago

I can’t imagine how a tunnel would be cheaper than PRE-CAST concrete bridges, like they used on the original metro rail, and like FDOT is using on the signature bridge.

But, you’re right. ANOTHER STUDY to determine what basic common sense should tell these officials.

Anonymous
12 days ago

Not to mention the tunnel will be for cars. Mass transit exists for multiple purposes. A tunnel for cars may help reduce traffic, but it does nothing for those who don’t own a car and rely on mass transit to get around

Fred Flintstone
12 days ago

I obviously can. Tunneling deep does not require purchasing any “rights of ways”. You don’t have to buy any real property or easements in an expensive urban environment. Moreover, it will take decades and require eminent domain.

Anonymous
12 days ago

Oh, I was unaware we needed more ROW for the South Dade Busway or the VERY WIDE NW 27 AVE.

Oh, wait. Both of those locations were selected for transit due to not requiring ROW acquisition.

Anonymous
12 days ago

Tunneling can go underneath private property in a more efficient manner. You need no easements deep below private property. Buses are old technology, and limited to public rights of way on the surface. You can’t drive through a building with a bus, and limited to public roadways. Also, buses slow down traffic considerably on the surface.

Anonymous
12 days ago

you 100% need an easement to go underneath someone’s property. If I dig my foundations down and disrupt the subway, who is going to pay?

Anonymous
12 days ago

Does a plane need an easement to fly over everyone’s house?
I am assuming they will be deep enough.

Anonymous
11 days ago

Among the many reasons I can argue why a tunnel is such a dumb idea in this city, there is always the concern about the high water table that Miami has when you start digging.. or have you just conveniently forgot about that?

Anonymous
12 days ago

Government.

Anonymous
12 days ago

In this case, there doesn’t even need to be a study. Elon Musk is a grifter and this tunnel is probably his next grift. Either Miami’s leadership is too stupid to realize this, or they are in on the con themselves. Either way, we don’t need Elon’s space tunnel for Teslas. Go to Las Vegas in 2 years and see if their “Loop” is being used for anything more than a pedestrian walkway or a utility corridor. The man is a turd but people keep lining up to give him their/our money and heap praise upon him.

Anonymous
11 days ago

The studies are perpetual. A complete pot of gold for planners, engineers, and other professionals to milk from a never ending pit of tax payer’s money.

Anonymous
12 days ago

if its just a tunnel where cars can pass by it will solve nothing, if we had a subway like chicago or new york then we will be getting somehwere and solve this issue that has been present for decades

Anonymous
12 days ago

yes, we need trains not suvs . it would feel like you are in a can of sardines sitting in an suv with a vagrant that smells like poop with the windows closed you would have to smell it all. if you are in a train wagon you can move around. we need trains

Anonymous
12 days ago

Extend the metrorail.

Anonymous
12 days ago

This tunnel will be cheaper for who to do what?

Anonymous
12 days ago

Scratch the stupid plan with buses and ave Elon Musk build a tunnel for a subway system or even simpler…EXTEND THE METROMOVER TO THE WHOLE MIAMI

Anonymous
12 days ago

Metromover to Cuba.

Anonymous
12 days ago

But this is still for people to drive their cars? It will solve absolutely nothing for most of the city.

If Boring wants to do the Brickell Ave tunnel: great! But replacing the SMART plan with this is straight DUMB

Anonymous
12 days ago

Does this stop that crappy bus project announced yesterday, or are we just doing studies to pay for studies paying money to friends of these board members?

Anonymous
12 days ago

no it’s not going to stop the ”crappy bus project” because it does n’t make sense to build a tunnel under the busway. a tunnel should be built as an exclusive lane for a train but since the exclusive lane already exists it does n’t make sense to waste millions building another one under it.the tunnel should be built for another route

Anonymous
12 days ago

Make it an underground bus like Boston’s Silver Line.

Anonymous
12 days ago

if this is just a tunnel for cars then it solves nothing, wee need a subway system and with all the new tech hopefully it gets done. im tired of miami cutting corners when it comes to their urban development

Anonymous
12 days ago

Re the 1.5 mile Musk tunnel that opened this week in Las Vegas: “What it doesn’t offer are a number of things that were initially promised, like Teslas traveling on special “skates” through the tunnels, cars moving through the tunnels autonomously, and also movement at fairly high speeds. The skates were dropped early on, and despite the tunnels being quite narrow and enclosed, autonomous driving isn’t in the cards either at the moment with drivers shuttling passengers through the enclosed loop. Also, the drivers cannot exceed 35 mph in the tunnels, so the promise of high speed movement through the tunnels didn’t materialize either.

So yes—they’re just taxis but travel underground in tunnels that were bored out for them. And, they’re electric.”

You can read more here: https://bit.ly/3gqXvnv

Anonymous
11 days ago

Thanks man, appreciate the info. People in this city think that this is some kind of panacea but there are so many wrongs with this idea that putting just a little bit of thought into it should convince anyone that this is just bad and stupid.

Anonymous
12 days ago

Pockets being lined as we speak. While the mass of idiots, aka residents, watch in awe (thinking it is tech and must be ok since rich folks are involved). Where is the outrage that you would see if it was merely hinted that a low income person was ‘getting’ a $100 subsidy for whatever? This community is grosse and have either zero balls, or worse, seriously misguided moral compass and values. Not to mention the slave mentality of ensuring ‘massa’ is ok. When massa eat we eat!

Anonymous
12 days ago

Is Massa that new Japanese restaurant on Brickell ?

Anonymous
12 days ago

Elon Musk is a huckster. Search YouTube for “DEBUNKING ELON MUSK Pt1” and “DEBUNKING ELON MUSK Pt2” if you don’t mind having your bubble popped.

Anonymous
12 days ago

The Las Vegas loop is embarrassing. What does Miami need with a bunch of tunnels that can barely fit a model 3?

Jetsons
12 days ago

By the time this will happen, assuming it will, the flying taxis will be out. We are not that far away.
Possibly 5 years, with no infrastructure or tunneling required. It has already started in other parts of the world.

Casey
12 days ago

Would love a subway system.

Anonymous
12 days ago

We all would but politicians don’t seem to care about what people want.

Anonymous
12 days ago

How many more miles of metrorail / monorail / light rail / metromover / maglev / tram / slingshot / or anything else would the city have if all the money spent in studies had actually been shoveled in the ground?

Anonymous
12 days ago

this tunnel is going from where to where? Is it going to be a toll? or a free alternative?

If the article answer these questions the study van be finished in 15 minutes.

Anonymous
12 days ago

“Just keep your eyes on the shiny trinket Francis… now you’re getting very sleepy… “

Anonymous
11 days ago

Tunnels aren’t cheap their maintenance costs are astronomical & with sea level rise that tunnel will just become a water pipe…

I told You so!
11 days ago

What is needed is to require that all City/County Commissioners and Mayors as well as all of the Miami Dade Transit leadership be required to take public transit to commute to their work(NOEXCEPTIONS). So that they can see what an inefficient transit system we have. We have empty expensive buses traveling north and south along the Florida Turnpike on a daily basis. We need Uber-based real time transit buses let us first privatize the transit buses to Musk let him figure how they can run more efficient with the existing infrastructure. Let him prove to us that he is capable of doing boring at the points where the buses need to zoom by first. Let us get the buses to work efficiently and invest in a fleet of shared electric self driving vehicles that you can rent per commute….

The Unions that represent the Transit Workers are another problem …PRIVATIZE PRIVATIZE TRANSIT!!

Lets install sensors on all cars to detect the speed and driver behaviors and make them like red light cameras’ and you will see how driver behavior improves!

Let us first fix and improve what was promised to the tax payers before we go out a speculate on this expensive technology. We need to invest in air-space unmanned commuter shuttles instead of lining the pockets of special interest. It is always the Politician pitching instead of keeping broken promises. I have no trust on this matter unless the broken promises are adhered to!

No more BS please do the things that were promised first! Too many studies of studies of upon studies and promises upon broken promises enough Mayor Suarez you are trying I know but you must listen to me!

I told you so.

Anonymous
12 days ago

Metro mover to Disney

Anonymous
11 days ago

No, a tunnel to Disney…