Elon Musk’s The Boring Company Proposes North Miami Beach Loop

A transportation tunnel has been proposed in North Miami Beach by Elon Musk’s The Boring Company, according to Business Insider.

The February 1 proposal was made in response to a request for information from the city, Bloomberg reported.

The tunnel is proposed to run 6.2 miles, from the Golden Glades Intersection to the Intracoastal Mall.

Tesla vehicles would drive passengers in the underground tunnels. The system will have an initial capacity of 7,500 passengers per hour, but it can be scaled to 15,000 per hour.

Three other extensions are possible, including an additional 3 mile extension to Hard Rock Stadium, another to Sunny Isles, and a 1.8-mile link to Sole Mia and FIU Biscayne in North Miami.

The proposed stations are:

  • Golden Glades
  • Medical Center (Jackson North Hospital)
  • NE 6th Avenue (Wawa/Krispy Kreme)
  • 163rd Street Mall
  • Biscayne Boulevard and 163rd Street Intermodal Center
  • Intracoastal Mall
  • Hard Rock Stadium (potential expansion)
  • Sole Mia (potential expansion)
  • FIU Biscayne Bay North Miami (potential expansion)
  • Newport Pier Sunny Isles Beach (potential expansion)

Total cost of the 6.2 mile route is estimated at $185 million to $220 million. That is a fraction of what a traditional mass-transit system would normally cost to build.

Financing could come from the recently passed Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, and the federal government is likely to rate the project favorably, the proposal says.

In addition, The Boring Company itself is willing to finance a portion of construction and operation.

The proposal says it would take 36 months to plan and build, assuming permitting is expedited. However, a North Miami Beach commissioner told Bloomberg it would need approval from other nearby municipalities and the Army Corps of Engineers, which could take additional time.

 

 

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Anonymous
3 months ago

We should have a contest to see how many separate, independent, non-cohesive modes of transportation Miami can patchwork together! GO!

Not Anonymous
3 months ago

And it isn’t even going anywhere, only some northern suburbs!

Anonymous
3 months ago

Wrong! Is going to the best beaches, FIU and The Hard Rock Cafe.

Anonymous
3 months ago

There is a massive bus terminal in the Golden Glades Interchange along with a massive Park & Ride.
The location makes a lot of sense.

Anonymous
3 months ago

I find this proposal ridiculous, but still not as dumb at expanding a low-speed, low-capacity people mover between two certain major population centers separated by a bay.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Well there you have it folks, if the Metromover doesn’t whisk along at least 75 miles an hour between stops, then it’s just a “low speed, low capacity transit people mover that can take you to different areas.

DWNTWNR
3 months ago

Metrorail’s average speed is 9mph, versus Metrorail’s is 31mph. That’s a significant difference. Metromover is sluggish and inappropriate for a trip over the bay.

Anonymous
3 months ago

So you sit home on your ass all day doing nothing and then you decide you wanna go out somewhere on Miami Beach and now you’re in rush to get over there?

DWNTWNR
3 months ago

Let me rephrase, extension of Metromover beyond its current extent, is inapporpirate. It’s too slow and has too many stops to try and act as commuter rail. It should be kept as the rapid circulator it currently exists as. For the headways and frequency, it’s too expensive to justify to extend.

In DC, distances between stops on the Orange, Red, and Yellow lines in Downtown DC vary from 0.4 miles to 0.9 miles and the train’s average speed is 33mph.

In NYC, distances between stops average around 0.25 miles, and the trains average 17mph. It’s expected to be slower because of the shorter distances required to serve the increased density.

In Miami, Metromover’s distances between stop srange from 0.1 miles to 0.4 with an average speed of 9mph. That’s absurd.

I cannot wrap my mind around the folks who want Metromover extended all the way to Wynwood. At 9mph, plus the stops, it would probably take you longer than taking a Metrobus or City Trolley to get from Wynwood to Downtown. It would 100% take double, maybe even triple, the time to bike from Wynwood to Downtown since the average cyclist goes 10mph and doesn’t have to deal with minimum 1 minute stops every 0.1 miles. As someone who bikes to work from Wynwood to Downtown, it takes me 12 mins. Metromover would be way too expensive for the type of service it provides to be utilized beyond its existing system. If anything, it makes sense to add another stop to the Publix on 18th Street and Biscayne, it’d be 0.2 miles north and would connect downtown to the densest part of Edgewater, since the regulatory boundaries of Downtown actually extend to 24th St and Biscayne (DDA and DRI boundaries), it’s justifiable to extend it to 18th.

Anonymous
3 months ago

^
“Metromover beyond its current extent, is inapporpirate. It’s too slow and has too many stops to try and act as commuter rail”

“I cannot wrap my mind around the folks who want Metromover extended all the way to Wynwood”

He can’t comprehend the thinking of these folks because he owns a Lamborghini and a jet to get around because all other forms of transportation is just too slow for him.

lol…

DWNTWNR
2 months ago

Did you miss the part where I said I bike to work from Wynwood to Downtown?

Anonymous
2 months ago

The comment about you biking to work from Wynwood to Downtown is mute. You wrote “extension of Metromover beyond its current extent, is inapporpirate.” You also wrote “It would 100% take double, maybe even triple, the time to bike from Wynwood to Downtown since the average cyclist goes 10mph and doesn’t have to deal with minimum 1 minute stops every 0.1 miles.” Since some people are only talking about extending the Metromover, because it hasn’t been extended for over twentyfive years, and in that time Wynwood has increasingly grown, you’re telling us that if it’s extented, you know without a doubt you’ll still be able to get on your bike and outrun a Metromover car? Excuse him folks while he goes through his presumptuous life. Never mind the people who can care less about riding a bike or can’t ride a bike or don’t want to ride a bike in Miami traffic.. nah, the decision makers or the government in Miami should just agree with YOUR hypotheses, right?.. gtfoh!

Anonymous
2 months ago

Moot*

Anonymous
2 months ago

^ Thanks…

Anonymous
3 months ago

Even the free trolleys don’t connect. It’s like, who is behind the logistics of mass transit here?
Sometimes there’s a gap of 15 to 20 blocks between 2 different routes.

Anonymous
3 months ago

When will we get a waterslide-based transportation system??! I should be able to travel to and from the beach and private resorts without toweling off.

EJS
3 months ago

So well said. Totally agree.

Anonymous
3 months ago

What about proposing a real mass transit system?

Melo is sigma and chad
3 months ago

This is a tailored service for this route that doesn’t have the density for a even a subsidized rail system.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Before we know the entire corridor will be redeveloped and will get stuck with another useless Elon Musk’s mental fart

Not Anonymous
2 months ago

more like a mental shart

Anonymous
3 months ago

Atlanta and almost every major city in the Sunbelt area has a much lower density than this area,yet they have a mass transit system. Not a good argument.

Anonymous
3 months ago

That’s too logical

Anonymous
3 months ago

The commenters on The Next Miami are proposing “real” mass transit systems nearly every day.

Unfortunately, those commenters are whiners, not doers.
They can’t even WALK in the Brickell neighborhood because the sidewalks are “unwalkable” and can’t cross the street because “we need to get the cars off the road”.

Anonymous
3 months ago

And don’t forget they can’t and won’t live in a building because it’s, “ugly!”

MiamiArchi
3 months ago

I keep wanting to like this idea. But I just can’t get behind it.
Maybe I’m not visionary enough or w/e.
But reality is.
Miami ground is very hard to make underground tunnels work given our water levels.
So I think once they put pen to reality the prices will skyrocket and it will be a huge mess.
the pricing and work etc just doesn’t sound right to me.

Anonymous
3 months ago

not jsut water levels, but proximity to the aquifer. You go too deep, puncture the aquifer, and you put all the drinking water at-risk throughout the region

elevated lines are the only solution

Anonymous
3 months ago

The drinking water didn’t change when they did the Miami Seaport tunnel.

Not Anonymous
3 months ago

That’s because it is under the bay, there the water table is salty and not drinkable.

Not Anonymous
3 months ago

not to mention it is WAY shorter.

Anonymous
3 months ago

The Miami Seaport Tunnel is closer to deeper water and it worked fine.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Excellent point MiamiArchi.
The people whose #1 job is to bore tunnels should have that information that you have.
Reality sucks.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Except that bait-and-switch proposals are standard operating procedure for these kind of projects

“yeah its just 200 million” is the proposal

9 years down the line, “hey Miami-Dade, can we get another 1.3 billion bond-backed loan? Or how about raising taxes? You’re in too deep, you can’t stop now, weve already spent 3 billion!”

Anonymous
3 months ago

Great idea but they need an alternative to a single vehicle operation. These should be electric buses to carry masses of people and goods.

Melo is sigma and chad
3 months ago

There probably be some tesla ride share that shuttles people from that intercoastal project to the stadium.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Then the price would sky rocket since the tunnel would have to be bigger.

Anonymous
3 months ago

You mean….a subway….

Anonymous
3 months ago

The system is feasible because the proposed tunnels are small and cost effective to install.

Ahsumsawz
3 months ago

There have always been plans to make 12 person vehicles. This was discussed when they made the Vegas loop. But we need to wait until Tesla decides to produce consumer vans and modify those for the 12 person capacity. Undoubtedly the vans Tesla makes will fit in the tunnels.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Looking at the lead time to get a MetroMover car ordered and delivered and the lead time to get a Tesla car ordered and delivered, it makes a hell of a lot of sense to chose fast, quick, reliable.

The next time you see a maintenance man on a MetroMover car (this happens about 1 out of every 5 rides), ask them how long it takes to service one of those cars.

IF a Tesla breaks, you move it and insert another one. You don’t have to wait for slow boats from China to get a replacement part.

Anonymous
3 months ago

That’s like your sister asking you “how long is it gonna take” when you’re replacing the radiator on the free car that you gave her.

DWNTWNR
3 months ago

The problem is that the tunnels will only have capacity for Tesla’s and only one lane in each direction. When, not if, a Tesla catches on fire, it’ll cause a significant backup in the tunnel.

Elpit Onaso
3 months ago

This is just a subway system but with more steps.

DWNTWNR
3 months ago

No, it’s not. A subway would have large trains that can fit hundreds of people. This is a private access vehicular tunnel that ONLY Teslas can use. Can’t afford a Tesla? You’re SOL.

Yeppers
3 months ago

Please stop.

Azarius
3 months ago

Why can’t we have route similar to that but for MetroRail connecting with Brightline smh

Ahsumsawz
3 months ago

That area is not dense enough to justify spending over a billion dollars for MetroRail. This system is a good compromise for the area and very affordable.

Azarius
3 months ago

Hard rock to sunny isles is a very busy and has the potential to be just as dense. It’s already in planning

Anonymous
3 months ago

“WE”
Why don’t YOU take the lead the lead and work out a Financial Feasibility study. If you can get the per ride ticket price under $5 and return 20% cash on cash for me for 5 years, count me in as an investor.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Nah.. it’s easier to just ask questions like “Why can’t we have route similar to that but for MetroRail connecting with Brightline,” because then, I don’t have to worry about doing a complex “Financial Feasibility study.”

DWNTWNR
3 months ago

This is why transit is a problem. Too many folks think public services should be operated for profit. They’re supposed to break even. You shouldn’t run the government like a business. If this is your call to privatize public transportation, then be prepared for outrageous fares and waste of taxpayer dollars, because all privatized transit still leeches off public tax dollars.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Haha.. Musk is still trying to drum up business for his boring company.

Ahsumsawz
3 months ago

The first test project is complete, the Vegas loop at the convention center. Vegas gave them the green light to dig a loop through the entire strip stopping at most casinos, to Fremont street, and to the airport. This is a huge contract.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Vegas in out in this desert… Miami has a very high water table therefore to bore that close to the ocean is a much riskier adventure.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Right.. Vegas and Miami is an exact comparison.

lol…

Anonymous
3 months ago

Would much rather have been interested in seeing a line follow from the airport into the Gables, through Brickell and lastly South Beach

Anonymous
3 months ago

That does make more sense. The Northern part of the county is much more car oriented compared to the core.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Brickell sucks, Coral Gables is old, and South Beach is played out.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Where do you live? Kendall?

Anonymous
3 months ago

No, in Palm Beach…

Not Anonymous
3 months ago

shut up.

its_me
3 months ago

i bet you rather see this happen is those affluent areas of the city and not in north Miami you elitist fuck.

Living off A1A
3 months ago

The article notes that it’s in response to a *request* from the CITY OF NORTH MIAMI BEACH!

Anonymous
3 months ago

Boring Company is really short sighted. While the tunnels are too small for Metrorail trains to run in, they should be just right for metro movers if they can fit teslas. That would be able to accommodate way more people than a Tesla would

Anonymous
3 months ago

That’s actually not a bad idea. Unfortunately, I think the boring company’s real purpose is to just sell more Teslas.

Anonymous
3 months ago

It is surprising to see so many people who think that same thing.

Sooooo, you think that The Boring Company was created to build $10m per mile tunnels to “sell more Teslas”
Car & Driver estimates that 936,172 Teslas were sold in 2021.

You figure that all the engineers, contractors, lobbyists, salespeople, and other workers were set up to sell more Teslas?

How many more?
35 more Teslas per every $120,000,000 tunnel??

Anonymous
3 months ago

Pay me and I’ll set you freeeee!!!.. haha…

– Elon Musk

Anonymous
3 months ago

Imagine a Metromover car breaking down in one of these tunnels, sandwiched in the dark between some homeless crackheads and “typical” 163rd Street Mall customers.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Imagine a Tesla breaking down in one of these tunnels, sandwiched in the dark in an electric car with some random person behind the wheel picking songs that they want to listen to over the Bluetooth audio.

Anonymous
3 months ago

“The Boring Company is really short sighted”
Huh?

Clearly, you do not understand how their technologies work.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Yeah.. watch how smooth it goes when Elon Musk’s technology have people living on Mars.

lol…

Anonymous
3 months ago

i cant think of a shittier route

Anonymous
3 months ago

You must be an inland local that doesn’t enjoy the beach, the route is great for people that also speak English; inland, you never even hear English.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Ok racist

Anonymous
3 months ago

It’s a Tesla glorify project, nothing else!

Anonymous
3 months ago

How quickly will the politicians in Miami spend BILLIONS on this and a monorail that nobody will use and then say ‘SEE! NOBODY USES TRANSIT IN MIAMI!!!’

It is all too predictable.

Some artiAnonymous
3 months ago

It will be used by beach goers.

Living off A1A
3 months ago

What… none of us live on the beaches? I’m not a tourist. I’m a resident. Bought my home before it became a gridlocked series of islands that–on most days–can’t drive back to the mainland due to the teardown of quaint 2 & 3-story hotels that are replaced by 40-story “luxury” condos. We need as many options to get back and forth as possible. And if we take a few of the Beach-Going Tourists off the road at the same time… YAY!

Anonymous
3 months ago

What? North Miami Beach LOOP? Come on guys, this is just crazy. Lets build the motromover extension to South Beach and Wynwood/Midtown/Design district.

Anonymous
3 months ago

That portion will be a complete different component. Remember, having one system cuts time and money and way too practical

Anonymous
3 months ago

Weird first line, I understand it’s for demonstration purposes but really weird to go from golden glades to the intracoastal mall

Anonymous
3 months ago

Not that weird if you pay attention to real estate development.

The Dezer’s bought the Intracoastal Mall and have plans for over 2,000 housing units there.
Here are details of the project:

Five towers up to 40 stories tall with 1,750 luxury condominiums
A mid-rise rental building with 200 units
50 townhouses
375,000 square feet of retail
200,000 square feet of office
A boutique hotel
A fire and police substation
30 acres total, with 9.4 acres of open space (including the canal and a park)

Melo is sigma and chad
3 months ago

What is stopping non-teslas from driving in the tunnels. Hoodrats with their dirt bikes will be using them too.

Anonymous
3 months ago

This is not a tunnel for any people to drive personal cars Tesla or not. It’s a subway but instead of train cars teslas will transport you

Some artiAnonymous
3 months ago

Some articles say you drive your own unlike this article.

Anonymous
3 months ago

I understand the question, and it’s a valid one. However the wording of it…..

Anonymous
3 months ago

Sorry but in your attempt to be funny, you failed miserably…

Melo is sigma and chad
3 months ago

triggered

Anonymous
3 months ago

He said “hoodrats with their dirt bikes”

Hahahaha, that’s some funny shit!

Tell me something, are you a comedian?

MiamiArchi
3 months ago

You can’t have non electric cars in the tunnels. The tunnels have no exhaust systems that are required when you have normal gas cars.
It’s the main thing they point to for why they can build tunnels so much cheaper then everyone else.
Still doesn’t make sense to me

DWNTWNR
3 months ago

The only reason they can’t have non-electric cars in the tunnels is because the tunnels are so narrow. You can drive gas cars in other tunnels like the PortMiami tunnel.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Those fuckers on the dirtbikes can kick rocks (and hopefully that’s exactly what they’ll do pretty soon), but there’s no need to bring race into it.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Funny but, I wonder why we don’t see or hear about “hoodrats on dirt bikes” riding in the Biscayne Bay truck tunnel right now?

Some artiAnonymous
3 months ago

Hopefully they will be stopped.

Anne Annomous
3 months ago

Like the Vegas example, this will be more of an amusement ride than a practical solution to serious urban infrastructure needs. I’m not against the Tesla marketing angle, but lining up passenger cars in a tunnel to solve the problem of lined up passenger cars on the surface is not innovative.

But, if tunnel we must: Move the cargo below ground and leave the surface and sunshine to humans.

Anonymous
3 months ago

What is wrong with the politicians of this town?
We need a cohesive, flowing, functional, connecting train system.
Take advantage of the growth we are experiencing and the fact that miami is getting so much attention to make investors, developers, etc to take part in it, but something centralized. not everyone can be building an independent transport system or line. There are only plans and it is already so confusing.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Not happening

Anonymous
3 months ago

Miami acts too Jim crow to be considered a global city. Why can’t we just have normal public transit line Chicago or DC? This is a bad idea

Anonymous
3 months ago

As if we need any further sinkholes created in south florida

Anonymous
3 months ago

Musk saying to some hypnotized MiamiDade politicians – “and it’ll only cost!.. ”

lol…

Azarius
3 months ago

Hope it could connect for xfes to Brightline

Anonymous
3 months ago

Meant to say, carbon monoxide

Anonymous
3 months ago

This is the one causeway that never has traffic on it, because it doesn’t GO anywhere useful.

Anonymous
3 months ago

That is incorrect.
163rd is a major artery from the Golden Glades Interchange (the intersection of SIX major roads) that makes a connection to Sunny Isles.
It handles very high volume of traffic.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Hard Rock should fund a tunnel running between the stadium and the casino…apparently it’s awful trying to get an Uber during big events at Hard Rock Stadium.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Great! So to go from my current location in Pines, I will take the local free Pines bus to the Car pool to get to Dade, get off to the Uber to Golden Glades, then take the Musk tunnel to Biscayne Intermodal, then take the Bus down to the Metrorail station, then metrorail to Brickell, then Metromover to 11th stree, and the the Tram to my final destination.

1, 2, 3 ,4 ,5, 6, 7… 8 transporation modes. LOL, who said Miami lacked diversity. 🙂

Anonymous
3 months ago

GUYSSS, let’s spend 10 minutes reading several comments 🤣🤣 what stupid comments and problems people in US have when it comes to public transportation, people say ohhh public transportation would raise taxes..blabla.. the richest country in the world doesn’t have money to put some trains? And people AND politicians freak out with no solutions? 🤣🤣 it is ashamed that the super luxury Miami has the same public transportation as a third world country in Africa.. the only way to get from one place to another is taking your car 🤣🤣🤣 someone paying $5 million for an apartment in Sunny Isles needs 30 minutes just to put a foot in the i95 🤣🤣🤣 what a shame. WE NEED TRAINS WEST TO EAST THAT CONNECTS WITH ALL THE THE TRI-RAIL STATIONS THAT GOES NORTH TO SOUTH, like any other city in the world.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Make car registration $1k a year and tax gas $8 a gallon, no more traffic

Anonymous
3 months ago

Haha.. he tells his friends when they stop by his house to visit him that he can’t ride anywhere with them because he abhors cars or any kind of vehicle.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Why?

Anonymous
3 months ago

This is so stupid, how many different systems will we end up with down here?? FL state & local gov need to start actually providing efficient and reliable public services and stop allowing for everything to become privatized. Brightline deserves credit for creating a modern system, but there’s no reason why the state can’t allocate funding to mass transit instead of constant highway and toll expansion. If this were to be approved, then WE end up with an even more broken transit system thanks to private interests meddling in what the government should be responsible for. Why would this be approved now that Brighline has gained its own traction and can expand upon what’s already in place? Same goes for the monorail – no more boondoggles, no more nonsense. At this point just make everything BRT bc no one’s taking this Tesla stuff seriously.

Ahsumsawz
3 months ago

Vegas took it seriously, they have a short demo loop at the convention center and are expending it throughout the strip, to downtown, to the airport, and the university.

Not Anonymous
3 months ago

North Miami isn’t Vegas

Anonymous
3 months ago

Brightline exists because government “providing efficient and reliable public services” gives us pocketed penny taxes, MIC where Amtrak doesn’t fit, and indefinite SFRTA Coastal Link delays, where the government blames private companies for the same crap.

Anonymous
3 months ago

Wow…you have answered your questions, but do not even realize it.

Government is not the solution. Government is the problem.

IF Government would get it right, there would be no void to be filled by The Boring Company.

You are correct at the end, Bus Rapid Transit is great transportation system. It’s flexible, cheap, can be rolled out pretty quickly, and there is Federal funding to support it.