Fort Lauderdale Votes To Move Forward On Elon Musk Tunnel System Study

Fort Lauderdale commissioners voted to approve moving forward on a feasibility study for an underground transportation system using a network of tunnels designed by Elon Musk’s The Boring Company, according to the Sun Sentinel.

The city will pay $375,000 towards the study, while The Boring Company agreed to cover any potential costs beyond that if needed for the study.

The system will be known as The Olas Loop, and will initially run 2.7 miles.

It won’t be a traditional mass-transit system, but will instead use Tesla cars that will be open to the public, which will ride through the underground tunnels.

Initially, it is planned to run from downtown to the beach, with a trip expected to take just 3 minutes, at an average speed of 50 miles per hour.

According to the original proposal, potential future stations could include:

  • FLL Airport
  • The proposed Brightline Station next to FLL Airport
  • Port Everglades
  • The resorts area
  • Fort Lauderdale Tri-Rail station
  • The Galleria mall
  • Carter Park
  • DRV PNK Stadium

The system could also be connected in the future to an underground tunnel system in Miami, the proposal said.

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Choo Choo
5 months ago

Wish they would just put a metromover type vehicle in these tunnels, that would make so much more sense…

to many trolls here
5 months ago

A metromover carriage fits more people per trip and as an electric vehicle should be equivalent to a Tesla. Me thinks this is a ploy to sell more Teslas

Anonymous
5 months ago

A Metrorail-sized carriage fits even more.

Lenny
5 months ago

If the goal is to get in a vehicle that carries the most people….you can achieve the goal with a bus.

“BUT I WANT A PONY AND I WANT IT NOW!”

Truth Matters
5 months ago

Don’t worry, I don’t think it’ll happen.

Lenny
5 months ago

Educate me.
The Metromover-type cars are made by __________________. Is it Bombardier? When you order a Metromover car, it takes a few days to import? Or wasn’t it 16 month to have them custom built, shipped over the seas and imported through customs.

So assuming it’s Bombardier, can anyone fix them? Or is a specialized certified mechanic? Are there a lot of Metromover Car Service Stations?
Are there a lot of Metromover Car Service Mechanics?

Seems to me like having 15 Teslas instead of 8 Bombardiers wouldn’t be a big trade off from a capital expenditure standpoint, it would be significantly better from and annual operating expense standpoint. Teslas that are easily switched out, easily upgraded, easily repaired, and easily everything.

It would be terrific to have some nice American Made Teslas in the tunnel, and especially if the service contract is handled by Tesla and not Broward County Transit Union workers

Ted
5 months ago

Bombardier has a location in Miami so I doubt maintenance would be a big concern. It’s right by the Opa-Locka Airport. If the tunnels are going to be anything like the system in LA, there are several concerns especially when it comes to safety.

Lenny
5 months ago

Because EVERYONE loves a Metromover car….NOBODY likes Teslas.

The cost of a Metromover car is about 20x more than a Tesla, and when the Metromover car breaks down it costs 35X more to get rid of it and replace it.

Anonymous
5 months ago

The Boring company is still young, especially for an infrastructure company. Tesla is planning on developing 12-16 passenger vans. The vehicles will be relatively simple to develop self-driving software for straight line tunnels. 2 of these vans would equal metromover car capacity. Essentially, a column of these will act like trains, with the train carriages able to “detach” based on selected destinations, improving the efficiency compared to a train that would need to stop at every single stop. All built at a fraction of the cost. It’s worthwhile to let this technology strategy to evolve, improve, and progress. We should celebrate innovation and new ideas, ones that have the potential and vision to evolve greatly from something a simple as a car in a tunnel.

Jason Rice
5 months ago

If it’s so easy for these self driving cars, why isn’t it done yet? They got a tunnel in Las Vegas, and drivers in every one of em

Stan
5 months ago

#1. No one ever said that self driving cars are easy.

#2. Teslas started driving autonomously in the Las Vegas tunnels 2 months ago.

Anonymous
5 months ago

“Tesla is planning on developing 12-16 passenger vans”

O’boy.. I have read comments on this site that bash the Metromover cars as being nothing but “Tin Cans” in the sky. But “Tesla Electric Vans,” that’s supposed to get us around town in a tunnel, is a better option?

Chippy
5 months ago

When they don’t need to stop at every station, can bypass stations that are not part of the trip, can take different tunnel paths, and are easily repaired and swapped out, at a small fraction of the cost, and can be built at least twice as fast. It’s an upgrade chief.

Jeff Stryker
5 months ago

Why go through all the trouble of tunneling just to have single cars use it. It should be a train or something more akin to mass transit.

Anonymous
5 months ago

The reason they say they can do it cheaper is because the tunnels are much smaller only needing to fit a Tesla and not a train and also since teslas are electric they don’t need all the ventilation and other requirements for a train. I agree though that this will only fractional help our mobility issues. We need real solutions not this

Anonymous
5 months ago

Trains are also electric?

Truth Matters
5 months ago

Don’t worry, this won’t happen.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Sure, they don’t need ventilation… until they catch fire that is, which everyone should pray never happens in those tunnels since it apparently takes 40x more water than normal to put a Tesla battery fire out. No telling if an enclosed sprinkler system can even handle such a thing.

Lenny
5 months ago

The physical boring part is cheaper because they have state of the art machinery that bores the tunnel and seals the tunnel much more efficiently and much more quickly.

The annual operations of the tunnel is cheaper because they are smaller, safer, and do not require the extraordinary fire/ventilation systems that old fashioned tunnels do.

The reason why Teslas are great is because in a tunnel, their software drives the cars within inches of each other and at high speeds. If you have every started fast in a Telsa and stopped in a Tesla it is exhilarating.

I have never started fast on the Metromover, but I have stopped fast. Old people fall in the laps of homeless people and everyone gets stuck for a while.

Lenny
5 months ago

If that is a sincere question, check out the dozen lectures on Youtube about The Boring Company’s hardware, software, and operating efficiencies.

You speak as though tunneling is trouble. The Boring Company seems to believe that the hardest part of tunneling is that government bureaucrats have no incentives to reduce costs or reduce timelines and therefore, the government workers (and lobbyists) would be out of a job if there even a modicum of innovation in the industry.

Anonymous
5 months ago

The scammer wins again!

Mark
5 months ago

How’s is Elon a scammer, if not for SpaceX the US would be dependent on Russia to get astronauts to the ISS. Plus spaceX does it at a much cheaper cost because they land the boosters to reuse them.

Anonymous
5 months ago

If it were not for the US government Space X wouldn’t exist.

Mark
5 months ago

But does the relationship not benefit both sides. The US government gets cheap flights to the ISS and SpaceX makes money.

Mark
5 months ago

Same for many companies, delivering a government contract does not make one a ‘scammer’.

Obama gave Tesla seed money to help get them started and start an electric car revolution. It seems to have worked as many other car companies are investing (VW, Ford etc). Plus the US was repaid the original loan.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Pretty sure it was venture capitalists, Tesla’s partnership with Toyota until 2017, and role as a parts supplier to automakers which started the “electric car revolution.”

Slim Shady
5 months ago

Ehhh…
Obama gave $480Million to Solyndra…
The money disappeared. Solyndra doesn’t exist anymore.

Tesla “subsidies” have been paid back, and consumers are the ones getting subsidized.

(For the record…I don agree with ANY corporate welfare for ANY industry).

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/potus-solyndra-involvement-was-emanuel-idea/

Anonymous
5 months ago

Hey Sim Shady.. why don’t you explain to us what happened to the least over $9 billion dollars of United States money that went missing and is still to this day, unaccounted for in Iraq under the Bush administration.

Anonymous
5 months ago

If not for SpaceX, we’d be paying hundreds of millions to Russia for space missions. Better to keep the US gov’t money here in the US, employing US aerospace engineers, etc.

They call me...
5 months ago

Correction:
If not for the United States of America and the Founding Father’s who did so much to keep Government OUT of the lives of individuals, entrepreneurs like Elon Musk would not exist.

With proper education and access to documents crucial to the founding of the USA, it is clear why immigrants like on Musk find the USA to be a Beacon of Hope.

Melo is sigma and chad
5 months ago

hater

Anonymous
5 months ago

Somebody is still raging about Musk buying their precious Twitter.

They call me...
5 months ago

So…in your “mind”…the free market capitalist (who only wins when he creates a great product that people voluntarily pay for) is the BAD guy.
And the Government Bureaucrats (who wins when nothing happens OR BAD things happen) is not a scammer??

I learned LONG ago…that the Government TAKES money from producers. They take and do whatever….when it fails, their one and only reaction is “you didn’t give us enough money”.

T G
5 months ago

another study that will get buried under a stack of papers at the county offices.

Melo is sigma and chad
5 months ago

Yeah south florida love some transit studies and then never green light the project

Anonymous
5 months ago

I remember a study for the “wave” a trolley going around downtown.
They talked about it for over 10 years and never implemented it.

Anonymous
5 months ago

The Wave was fully designed and canceled just before construction began in order to appease the dying Boomers of Fort Lauderdale, forfeiting a multi-million dollar TIGER construction grant in the process.

Rem
5 months ago

The wave also didn’t go anywhere anyone would actually go.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Who p***ed in your kombucha? The Wave route didn’t even go through boomer neighborhoods.

Anonymous
5 months ago

A TIGER grant also funded that FIU bridge and look what happened.

Go fast
5 months ago

What is the cost of building this thing? And how does riding in a Tesla car tunnel improve mobility? Seems like a closed loop system, what is this actually doing to improve transportation?

Anonymous
5 months ago

Nothing. Commissioning a study is a way for politicians to say they are doing something about transit without really doing anything. Take it from a long-time Miami resident.

Slim Shady
5 months ago

The cost is outlined…dig deeper.

Ummmm….how does more transit options improve mobility? Ummm…jeez…ummm…let me do some further research to find out how more transit options improve transportation. It seems so obvious to me and any 3rd grader….maybe I’m missing something.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Crazy idea but maybe instead of cars they could run trains

Slim Shady
5 months ago

That’s not crazy.
That idea has been proven.
Proven to be expensive and lame.

Common sense
5 months ago

This is a terrible idea

I Hate Broker Babble
5 months ago

Have any of you seen the Sh*tshow of the Vegas tunnel ?!! LMAO

Ciparoo
5 months ago

Yeah we can say this musk idea is shit without all his other ideas also being shit. Can’t we? Can people use their brains even a little?

Anonymous
5 months ago

Yeah sure, people can use their brains, that’s why geologist already told us that South Florida has a very high water table and we know that digging and outfitting a tunnel here plus maintaining it is a very expensive venture.

Anonymous
5 months ago

The completion of this is probably going to take 2x as long as they’re planning because I just know they’re completely ignoring that issue to make empty promises.

Slim Shady
5 months ago

Source.

Slim Shady
5 months ago

Excellent point.
You should send an open letter to the Rocket Scientist, Elon Musk.

You are so smart! Like…Elon Musk should hire a geologist to work for his Boring Company!
So stupid!

Like Anonymous said, “geologists already told us…”
It’s a shame that Elon Musk started a company, spent billions on tunnel boring equipment, yet never thought to hire a geologist.
This Elon guy is soooooo stupid!

Anonymous
5 months ago

But most of his other ideas are also shit… Neuralink (will never work), Hyperloop (sorry for all those investors), Solarcity, Tesla Semi (probably never coming), Cybertruck (probably gonna take even longer than planned), Tesla Roadster (lol)…

Even these tunnels are shit versions of *his own* pipe dreams. They were originally supposed to contain automated tram-like vehicles that could fit 8 to 10 people… then they switched to cars on speeding sleds… now the final product is just cars… in tunnels… how innovative!!!!

Anonymous
5 months ago

And if he does build structures on Mars, I think he (and other uber rich people who believe in him) should live there first for at least two years and then get back to us about their experiences.

Slim Shady
5 months ago

Compared to your inventions….a reusable rocket and an electric car company don’t compare.

But to be objective…
Elon Musk has incredible insights and pithy posts.
Anyone still LOL-ing in 2022 is freaking lame.

Anonymous
5 months ago

It’s only the first project from them. It has exceeded what they were contracted to provide and can only get better. Vegas loved it so much, they’re expanding it to loop the entire strip with almost every hotel/casino involved. mmhmm, don’t be jealous you don’t own this “Sh*tshow” lol

Slim Shady
5 months ago

Common sense isn’t all that common.

Daniel
5 months ago

What a waste of money and time, the only way to fix and improve the never ending problem of transit is investing in mass transit systems like metro, light metro, buses, etc.

Anonymous
5 months ago

This is South Florida and we don’t do shit here that makes sense because we like gimmicks.

lol…

Anonymous
5 months ago

You lost my attention at buses.

Truth Matters
5 months ago

why not just do a tram on the street. Lots of cities in Europe have them and they are efficient, much cheaper to implement, they are electric, most of the time run with no driver like the one in Dubai and don’t involve digging which in So Fla makes no sense.

Captain Howdy
5 months ago

Because the uber rich along los olas do not want to give a part of there land back to the city and a tunnel will be under the roads instead of obstructing those uber rich peoples view

Slim Shady
5 months ago

Makes sense.
The Uber rich pay WAY more in property taxes than do most individuals. They have every right to decide what happens in there neighborhood.

Slim Shady
5 months ago

Nice post Daniel.
That is spoken like a Bureaucrat.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Haha.. they’ll use Tesla vehicles in a Tesla bored tunnel and then the residents of Broward county will be beholding to Tesla if they do it.

What a gimmick!

Slim Shady
5 months ago

Okay big thinker…get ready for some mind blowing….

Pretend it isn’t Boring Company tunnels or Tesla transport modules.

May the new company is Short Bus Innovations. If Ft. Lauderdale chooses SBI aren’t they beholded to SBI?

I like the idea of having a publicly traded American company doing infrastructure projects for affordable prices. But that’s just me…

J_Sky
5 months ago

Grift harder daddy

Ciparoo
5 months ago

Call it the Las Olas loop without a stop in Las Olas? Lol sorry the brightline stop is a bit of a hike to actual Las Olas

Melo is sigma and chad
5 months ago

a study doesn’t mean nothing in south florida, unless there are construction permits.

Anonymous
5 months ago

They just flushed 400k down the drain

Anonymous
5 months ago

Kinda a stupid comment but why they calling it las olas loop when it’s only one line

Captain Howdy
5 months ago

Loop up and back, that makes a loop

Anonymous
5 months ago

Yet Fort Liqourdale canceled The Wave…

Anonymous
5 months ago

good MOVE it was BS

Anonymous
5 months ago

Be nice now.. I haven’t seen or heard anybody saying “Mislimemi.”

Elon’s pájaro nalgon
5 months ago

Let me build my f**ing tunnel

anonymous
5 months ago

Build a real mass transit system!!!

Anonymous
5 months ago

Completely false comments. Are you even an engineer? If not you shouldn’t be making comments like this

David Young
5 months ago

Wow

Feel the Burn

Robyn G Thompson
5 months ago

This is ridiculous! Leave our State as is! Underground tunnels! No! Sorry Elon not here! This would weaken our grounds considerably.

Ted
5 months ago

When I sit and think about it, I hope they pull it off. Whether you’re a Tesla fan or not, this is how progress happens. Someone dares to do something and then others come behind, build on the concept or idea and make it even better.

Ike
5 months ago

Airport…

Elon Musk
5 months ago

Broward news…nooooo!

shewearsnylons
5 months ago

All for tunnels err expansion of mass transit. Not sure tunnels are the answer in Florida, and while I like Elon, I’m not sold on the idea that these tunnels use everyday vehicles.

Anonymous
5 months ago

The tunnels are not for everyday vehicles. They are for mass transit. Tesla is developing vans, and a self-driving software for these tunnels. A column of vans is essentially a train that can detach towards various destinations without need to stop at every station.

Slim Shady
5 months ago

Wait….so 150 comments from people who don’t even know what the project is about?

Anonymous
5 months ago

Build a tram!

NoName
5 months ago

Underground? Florida? If I dig too deep when planting the soil is wet. How is this going to be possible. Florida sits on water.

T R
5 months ago

This is absolutely insane, not to mention discriminatory purely due to the fact that these cars will not be accessible to wheelchair users, once again showing that disabled people dont seem to matter in the face of shiny and ineffective schemes devised by attention-starved billionaires.

Anonymous
5 months ago

They are developing vans.

Slim Shady
5 months ago

Relax Francis.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Give us news about Miami please

Anonymous
5 months ago

I thought this article contained news about Miami when it said “The system could also be connected in the future to an underground tunnel system in Miami, the proposal said..?”

Anonymous
5 months ago
Anonymous
5 months ago

You know.. lets take NYC subway system for example. The trains in NYC’s subway system is designed to move hundreds of people at a time. Elon Musk’s gimmicky tunnel system, which relies on moving people around in electric cars in Miami, can only fit four people at a maximum in them. If a car is full, you must wait for another one and hope its not boarded to its maximum because you’ll be waiting for the next car again. And don’t get me started on what happens when a car breaks down in the tunnel(s) or constantly keeping it from leaking, plus a whole lot of other problems that’s impossible to plan for.

So nah, give me a Metromover expansion where I don’t have to put up with those hassles and an above ground light rail system like in Dallas that’ll connect to the Metrorail and I think Miami will be just fine.

Slim Shady
5 months ago

I want to thank you.
You have thought of all the things the rocket scientists, engineers, and financiers never could have contemplated.

Thank you TNM…the in depth DD from this braintrust has persuaded me to sell off my child’s TSLA Holdings and buy this guy’s stock.

What was the symbol of your company?

Anonymous
5 months ago

Haha.. now we know, Slim Shady is a “fanboy” of Elon Musk because he has some, “TSLA Holdings.”