Report: Genting Submits Unsolicited Proposal To Build Train From Miami Beach To Mainland

An unsolicited proposal has been submitted by Malaysia’s Genting to Miami-Dade County for construction of a train system across Biscayne Bay, according to the Herald.

The line would be built from the mainland in Miami to Miami Beach, similar to previous proposals known as Baylink.

Genting owns the Resorts World Miami site, including the former Herald property and the Omni. The Herald site has both Biscayne Bay and MacArthur Causeway frontage.

The county is keeping the proposal under wraps for now, saying it is exempt from public records disclosure laws. Multiple sources confirmed the proposal to the Herald, however.

Before submitting the proposal, Genting CEO Lim Kok Thay met with Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Gimenez in Hong Kong to discuss building Baylink. Genting also arranged for Gimenez to visit a train factory in China.

Genting already won county approval in 2017 to rebuild the Omni Metromover and bus terminal next to the Resorts World Miami site, including a new 580-foot tower with hotel, residential and retail. The company has been working on permitting for that project in recent months.

 

The Omni bus and metromover tower:

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Anonymous

Running the Metromover over to Miami Beach is a no-brainer and should’ve been done a long time ago.

Anonymous

It is a no brainier! Metromover is slow, expensive and low capacity!

Anonymous

^^ it’s also FREE

Anonymous

Nothing is free. Operating costs are paid 100% by taxes.

Anonymous

I rather have them expand the Metromover then complete another study & then another study which = taxes.

Anonymous

You think Metromover would be built without a study? Same study no matter the mode.

Anonymous

Why would they need a another study?.. heck, if they don’t know what to do by now, they’ll never know what to do.

Anonymous

add more cars and turbo charge it ! 😉

Anonymous

Right. A seperate higher speed, higher capacity system is the only solution. Or more busses.

Anonymous

nobody wants to take buses.

Anonymous

the bus sits in traffic – bad idea

Anonymous

But its the Cheapest for the city.

Anonymous

More Buses are coming!!!

Anonymous

They could triple car it for this route and it would give it the needed capacity.

Anonymous

Or just run cars more frequently on it.

Anonymous

Traffic on the MacArthur cause is a nightmare.

Anonymous

Which makes one wonder why someone would complain about the Metromover traveling 35mph across it.

Anonymous

it’s low capacity because it doesn’t go where people actually live —- and people in Miami have this thing about not wanting to take public transport because it is beneath them… instead the car and boobs they can’t afford… but they should still do it for those of us that are secure enuf and confident enuf that we don’t have to show off our money and use a train.

Anonymous

Yeah man, you have it all figured out. We should elect you to solve all of the traffic problems in this city because you’re a genius!

Anonymous

It’s also filthy and disgusting. There is no maintenance whatsoever, despite the half penny tax.

Anonymous

Hyperbole much?

Anonymous

The only reason it should be metro-mover is because metro-rail has to large of a foot print for MB, and metro-mover would provide a one seat ride to the beach rather than having to make a transfer which always add a large amount of time to a standard commute. A metro-mover line coming out museum station is the optimal decision.

we need to keep our transit system as cohesive as possible and not start fragmenting the system with different modes of public transit. Transfers in general are inefficient and cause a drop in ridership.

Anonymous

i agree !!! like the silly parking in the city.. i’ve been in the Gables where on one side the street is one parking machine and app and the other is a completely different one… why not make them all the same? sooo sooo lame… no consistency and just slows everything down.

Anonymous

What? Both Metrorail and Metromover are giant viaducts destroying the street below, except Metrorail has better capacity for such an important route. Also, a one-seat ride from where? Clearly you’ve never taken transit in your life, because transferring is something you usually do.

Anonymous

Op here, I take transit on a weekly basis all the way from downtown to Kendall, so i know what a transfer is and the reason for which they suck. A one seat ride from downtown is what I am stating. Metro rail is much more disruptive than metromover will ever be. Just ask anybody who lives near a station or even near the M-path on US-1. The metromover on the other hand is much quieter. LRT might be a good alternative, but again that whole transferring from one system to another is a disruptive experience. People want to get on in one place and get off where they are going. Not having to switch between 3 different types of transit systems a huge benefit to people who use transit.

Anonymous

God forbid, noise in a city and having to transfer at a major hub like Government Center! Metromover doesn’t have the capacity, it’s slower than any transfer, and won’t be a good ROI if free.

Anonymous

It’s a no brainer to people without brains.
Baylink is an expensive investment that someone has to pay for.
Serious and thoughtful people know this takes a lor of resources to plan and implement, and to operate.
Usually, it’s the serious and thoughtful producers who end up paying for the “no-brainers” of the parasites who think that they are too fancy to take on of the he 100 buses that. Currently connect Miami and Miami Beach.

Anonymous

Gee, I guess every household in the city must’ve been rich when the Metro-rail and Metro-mover was planned and built. Well, I guess I’ll start getting on one of those free to ride buses because, you know, the city and county get them for free, the drivers are not paid a penny, they run on air, and need no maintenance. Jumping on the bus is a no-brainer!

Oh, I almost forgot.. buses also don’t sit in traffic or pollute the air.

Anonymous

Let Genting do proper rail. No half-assed Metromover, “virtual buses,” or glorified amusement ride option.

Anonymous

Please stop it with the wishful thinking.

Anonymous

Sad when a developer is pushing more for rail to Miami Beach then Miami’s on government! “Genting has arranged for Carlos to meet with train factory in China” all these years an they have yet to even meet with a train factory to get the ball rolling!!!!! It took Genting for them to start moving forward when Genting shouldn’t have to put in any work to get Miami to do anything!! Genting is only doing it to benefit them so if Genting wasn’t pushing for it I don’t ever see it getting done!

Anonymous

which translates to; Banana Republic’s mayor Carlos Gimenez likes Genting’s money very much.

Anonymous

but the mayor is dreamy and i bet he looks good out of that suit.

Anonymous

Genting is one of THE most evil companies on this earth. They have destroyed rainforests in Borneo and Malaysia with their palm oil destruction. And, casinos are a poor mans tax.
Please! Do not let them destroy more of Miami.

Anonymous

“destroy more of Miami?”

Are we talking about a hurricane or a Company that hasn’t built squat yet in Miami?

Anonymous

With Genting’s proven record of proposed and completed projects in Miami, I would gamble to say it ain’t happening anytime soon.

Anonymous

Genting wants to build a Casino.

Anonymous

Genting proposed a Resort in Miami with Casino.

Anonymous

True. A 4,000+ hotel and condo project, with 250,000 sq ft of meeting space, a mega yacht marina, a 250,000 sq ft retail center , a baywalk connecting the museums to the Sea View marina, restaurants and shops, and a 40,000 sq ft (about the size of gaming floor.

Anonymous

that’s a lot of stale cigarette smoke. but if there is a huge ass all you can eat buffett for cheap, i’m down.

Anonymous

Which we are still waiting for.

Anonymous

Blame it on the people who went whining to city government and blocked it from happening.

Anonymous

I won’t hold my breath but you are right.

Anonymous

I don’t think it’s their fault. Had they been allowed to build that casino, I’m sure they would’ve broken ground ages ago.

Anonymous

Not a huge fan of P3, however, if this has a decent alignment (Say, Design District -> Midtown (Wynwood) -> Omni -> South Beach -> Convention Center it might be worth it…

Or it could just be another stall tactic to never build anything.

Anonymous

Yeah, it needs to be fully private, or you get something like a collapsing bridge or platform too short for Amtrak.

Anonymous

Four to one it’s linked to casino permitting and there would be a stop on Genting property.

Anonymous

Who cares?..

Anonymous

Well, a new casino can’t be approved without the voters unless they are planning on buying an existing casino permit from another casino to move it to this site.

Anonymous

That’s exactly what I believe is in the future…

Anonymous

“Genting also arranged for Gimenez to visit a train factory in China”.
So our Mayor is going to visit a last century technology’s factory.

Anonymous

He’s listening to Trump and that’s his contribution to “Make America Great Again.”

Anonymous

Ate you kidding ? China has the fastest trains in the world ! The only slow, old technology train is the Virgin train 🙁

Anonymous
Anonymous

Are you saying they are building maglev to the beach? Please move to China

Anonymous

Kuala Lumpur’s mass transportation system.
https://www.imoney.my/articles/public-transport-klang-valley

Anonymous

Back in the day, officials in this city had the foresight to come up a rail transportation system that’s simple and effective. Fast forward to today and still what we see is this simple rail system called the Metro-Mover with stunted growth and wasting away while this city grows and grows because we keep putting idiots in charge with no clue on how expand the system or seemingly no inclination to do anything with it. We have something that’s been started.. all they have to do is add to it and it doesn’t need to be super fast or have the capacity of a passenger train rail car. The Metro-Mover is a simple and ready solution.

Anonymous

These commissioners are done… young people must get involved in local elections and vote in leaders who actually accomplish things that promote transit options and help quality of life…no more pathetic weak leaders…

Anonymous

Yes! What Miami-Dade needs is some fresh Alexandria Ocasia Cortez thinking.
Forget about the men who build skyscrapers…we need fresh young ideas to save us from the inevitable apocalypse coming in 12 Years.

Anonymous

LIKE THE DONALD!!!! LOL!

Anonymous

Agreed, But where do we find those leaders who actually accomplish things that promote transit options?

Anonymous

Not sure what you mean by “back in the day”, but I moved to Miami over 25 years ago… with only a couple exceptions I’ve never seen a past leader with as much foresight as our current leaders.

Anonymous

You’re kidding. Right?

Anonymous

Forget it, he’s one of those people who willfully ignores reality and conveniently forget about snafus like knocking down the Orange Bowl and slapping the Marlins Baseball Stadium on the taxpayers back and the recent catastrophe of the ULTRA music festival.

Anonymous

gotta be able to get those beach people to your casino when it eventually gets approved !

Anonymous

I think it’s fantastic. Win-Win. I hope the city goes for it.

Anonymous

Crash between Bicycle and Scooter.. who would win?

Anonymous

Keep a close eye on the Jacksonville Skyway which is a metromover type system being converted to use autonomous vehicles at street level. DeSantis appears to be backing the technology.

Anonymous

So will the rail stop at star island? Or coast guard station? Fisher island? As a matter of fact jungle island Miami childrens museum?

Anonymous

That would be one shaky ride across the bay on metromover

Magazine

Give it 2-3 years and see what these e-scooters develop into. A dedicated lane for these things could be a fraction of the cost of a bus lane, a fraction of a fraction of metromover costs, and much more practical and efficient. If people had personal scooters that had dedicated infrastrucure and could travel 25-30mph with no traffic interruptions, they would have 10x the demand of something like a bus or metromover.

Anonymous

Especially during rain and thunderstorms…which are not infrequent in Miami!

Anonymous

Yeah man.. and while the sky is Monsooning rain in Miami like it’s inclined to do, I’ll be sitting in my car, bus, or the Metromover watching you getting soak and wet riding on your scooter.

Anonymous

I’m surprised the County Mayor hasn’t visited Vietnam to admire their 21st century transportation system.

Anonymous

I would die to see Rebeca Sosa, Carlos Gimenez, Xabier Suarez, and your grandmother riding a scooter in La Calle Ocho during rush hour.

Anonymous

I would like to see a ticket from the police called “Drunk while Riding Scooter.”

That would be a hoot!

Anonymous

Haha love it!
I’m to cool tho ride a bus…but a dopey scooter is “cool”.

Anonymous

Yes, and we could have Vietnam! Awesome!!

Anonymous

i pooped in one of those vietnam hats before….just sayin

Anonymous

I bet you did it on a restaurant’s bathroom floor to.