Gimenez Says Future ‘Isn’t Mass Transit,’ Wants Pod Cars

Miami-Dade officials are pushing an alternative to rail transit between Miami Beach and the mainland.

Mayor Carlos Gimenez and Transportation and Public Works Director Alice Bravo advocated for a much cheaper solution known as Personal Rapid Transit at a meeting last week, according to Miami Today.

The system would be elevated along the McArthur Causeway, running at an average speed of 28 miles per hour (Metrorail averages 45 MPH). Cars would hold four to six people, and could detach from the tracks to take riders to their final destination.

Commissioner Xavier Suarez suggested the line could be highly elevated and illuminated to attract tourists, who might be charged a higher rate.

The cost to build could run under $10 million per mile, compared to $100 million per mile for heavy rail.

 

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Anonymous
3 years ago

Go home Gimenez your drunk.

Anonymous
3 years ago

*you’re

Might as well wait for driverless cars. We’re going to build all this mass transit right as driverless cars because mainstream and traffic disappears. *sigh*

Anonymous
3 years ago

**Become

Correct a mistake while making your own. Their message was clear enough with the error.

marc
3 years ago

Same way electric cars have become mainstream?

Anonymous
3 years ago

How many Teslas did you see 5 years ago? I saw none. Now I see multiple Teslas every day. Throw in Leafs and Bolts and electric cars are definitely becoming a thing. A lot of companies are starting fleets of electric vehicles for transportation/delivery. I think in 5-10 years you’ll see as many Teslas on the road as BMWs and Benz’s (sorry Bolt/Leaf fans out there; those cars are simply not compelling whatsoever).

I’m less optimistic on driverless cars, however. I don’t think they’ll ever be able to eliminate all “fringe” scenarios unless ALL cars are driverless-capable and able to communicate with each other (ie, something like all cars traveling on the highway at the same, safe speed, with the same distance between all cars, etc). Right now driverless is just a gimmick/party trick for people with money to blow.

Miami Hurricane
3 years ago

There’s a convergence point. Autonomous urban aviation (flying robot cars) is ultimitately safer than autonomous cars since you remove the human “driver” element as well as major obstacles (street signs, lights, blind corners, etc.).

Anonymous
3 years ago

Why has this been downvoted? What aspect do you find disagreeable?

Essie Corrigan
3 years ago

The cars _will_ be able to communicate with each other, just like smart security systems and other smart devices; that’s part of what is referred to as the IOT (“Internet Of Things).

Anonymous
3 years ago

Traffic will never disappear from South FL

Anonymous
3 years ago

We should all protest outside of ‘Clueless Carlos’ office

Anonymous
3 years ago

It will when the ocean reclaims it.

Essie Corrigan
3 years ago

Excellent point! *LOL*

Anonymous
3 years ago

and how do driverless cars make traffic disappear?

Essie Corrigan
3 years ago

THEY DON’T AND WON’T… they will simply result in more smoothly-RUNNING traffic, due to their inherent artificial intelligence.

Essie Corrigan
3 years ago

Oh yes, yet another argument for more MASS transit options…that WILL reduce traffic congestion!! ???

Essie Corrigan
3 years ago

Hey there — I’m pretty sure that, for a LOT of reasons, we’re STILL going to need public/mass transit options…if only due to the need for less overall congestion, increased overall sustainability, ease of access, etc…

Anonymous
3 years ago

I actually wouldn’t mind this type of system to link downtown with the Beach and Wynwood/Midtown/Design District/Edgewater. I really don’t care too much what the system is as long as it meets demand, its route makes sense, and it’s on a separate dedicated track that doesn’t get stuck in Miami traffic.

*Except* I absolutely HATE the idea of these “pods” only holding 4-6 people and also leaving to track to “deliver” riders to a personalized destination.

Anonymous
3 years ago

Yes, it’s called “walking” and it’s what you do from the station on the tracks.

Essie Corrigan
3 years ago

*LMHO!*

Essie Corrigan
3 years ago

AGREED 1000%!!!

Miami Hurricane
3 years ago

Wouldn’t it be cheaper to just give rideshares like uberPOOL an express lane? I get you wouldn’t be be able to charge tourists for a scenic view, but you also wouldn’t botch the view for all the residents that live there and commute every day.

Essie Corrigan
3 years ago

Personally I think it would be even cheaper to dedicate BUS LANES on all bridges.

marc
3 years ago

As others have said, Gimenez continues to change directions by introducing new methods of transit every few months so that he can never be pinned down to one and actually do anything. It’s never ending and nothing gets done under his tenure. Get this guy out of here already and find a true visionary that will actually do something of substance besides ordering more studies.

Anonymous
3 years ago

I like flip flops on my feet not representing me in office…

Anonymous
3 years ago

Idiot.

Anonymous
3 years ago

Toll the causeways and use 100% of the funds to build rail between Omni and South Beach. So simple even an idiot should be able to figure it out.

Essie Corrigan
3 years ago

Very good suggestion!!!

Common Sense Posting
3 years ago

Stop being cheap and build it right so it lasts a lifetime.

Couldn’t agree more – Idiot.

Anonymous
3 years ago

Yeah! Like a well built typewriter! Solid!
If you would have invested in the best typewriter (Not some cheap one) 25 years ago, it would still be going strong today.

Anonymous
3 years ago

build metro rail ….. elevated so people can also enjoy the views and will stay for centuries …. that will be a great attraction for tourists also

Polo
3 years ago

This guy is an idiot. The amount of people traveling between South Beach and downtown will be much greater than the pods can accommodate.

Anonymous
3 years ago

This will work in somewhere like Miami beach. Tight spaces that cover a few miles at 28mph. Problem is we are talking about 30-40 miles out either way of downtown Miami. Yea a few miles at a university is perfect but not for a big city from end to end at 28mph! We know rail ain’t cheap but the longer you wait the more expensive it will be. It would have been a lot more cheap 20 years ago, 20 years later they still trying to figure it out. By time they make up their minds it will be 10 years before the project even breaks ground! Then another 6 years to finish the shit!

Market Urbanist
3 years ago

Whatever mode is chosen, it will terminate in downtown Miami.

Anonymous
3 years ago

How many pods would they have, if its under 500 then its worthless.

Anonymous
3 years ago

clown

Miami
3 years ago

please please please vote against this clown next elections!

BOVO for Mayor
3 years ago

He terms out this term…Thank God!

Miami
3 years ago

Lets make sure we don’t vote for anyone that follows his way of thinking! enough of these backwards people.

Anonymous
3 years ago

Don’t know if you’re trying to be ironic using “Bovo for Mayor” or what but Bovo is the idiot who thinks we need more concrete and less trees and grass on Parcel B. You know, to build Cuban’s a museum to themselves. Despite all the reasonable minds against such an idea, this is the latest on the Parcel B land grab: http://hrld.us/2H8T91j

Andrewn2
3 years ago

I wish we could send our transportation planners to live in a dense city that has mass transit for a year without a car. Maybe then they would stop coming up with these short-sighted, hair-brained ideas.

Anonymous
3 years ago

mandatory one month stay in Seoul and Tokyo.

Anonymous
3 years ago

Just extend the metromover to the beach and add more train cars to that line it’s not that hard

Anonymous
3 years ago

this is an incredibly obvious solution. hard to understand why a metromover expansion wasn’t done 10 years ago.

Anonymous
3 years ago

Electric Cars are not the Answer, they will create bumper to bumper traffic… The only answer is mass transit….
I realize a lot of you are still mad about the Clintons not getting elected.. Hillary should disappear into the Sunset with her loving Husband, after two open Heart Surgery

Anonymous
3 years ago

Trump is the only one capable to solve the traffic in South Florida. Eternal Glory to our Maximum leader.

Essie Corrigan
3 years ago

Mass transit IS the real answer; have NO idea how this could possibly tie in to the last NON-election, however!

Yohan Perez
3 years ago

This fool Giminez should be run out of town, not just voted out of office.

Anonymous
3 years ago

I mean it depends on how many pods there will be available, this could be a far better option and sustainable for decades to come.

Anonymous
3 years ago

We would only be able to afford 5-10 pods with a whole line of people/tourists and such waiting for a damn pod.

Market Urbanist
3 years ago

If the County, City, and Beach can only afford 5 – 10 pods, what makes anyone on this forum think it can afford heavy rail? And that is the problem at hand, rail lines are expensive to build and maintain, so who will pay for it all? That is why the most productive investment would be Coastal Link, whether privately or publically run.

Market Urbanist
3 years ago

That being said, I do believe a Bay Link is a clear second in terms of investment priority. Too many locals and tourists alike depend on it. But, along with cost, you have resistance from some local SoBe residents and businesses. That is why it’s important that we consider all options. It’s fundamentally a mobility issue.

Oscar
3 years ago

“I’ll just keep introducing new ‘solutions’ and not do anything!” – Mayor Gimenez. Between China’s mythical elevated bus, the trackless “trains,” driverless cars, and now personal rapid transit – not to mention Metrorail, Metromover, Buses, BRT, and the free trolleys – we’re going to have like 40,000 different modes of public transit.

Anonymous
3 years ago

40,000 studies, 0 modes

Essie Corrigan
3 years ago

What a dream! It’s a vast improvement over the lower midwest US (i.e., INDIANA), whuch has virtually _NONE_!!!

Anonymous
3 years ago

Gimenez is wrong, just like he was wrong to cave to trump on sanctuary city status for transit funds. There needs to be a high capacity rail system, not some carnival ride for tourists, that is probably actually a diversion because it takes all kinds of time to debate its merits or wait and meanwhile they don’t have to build anything. I think calling him an antisemite, like loria of the marlins hinted he was, is ridiculous, but he needs to be held to account for bait and switch on transit and now buying more time to do nothing.

Anonymous
3 years ago

He was originally angling for Sanctuary Status ? What a nutcase.

Anonymous
3 years ago

How are sanctuary cities beneficial for people who are born here and came here legally. And please don’t use the indio fallacy for mass nonvetted immigration that fallacy could be applied to other countries as well.

Anonymous
3 years ago

“Caving” to Trump, meaning following the law of land, was the only thing Gimenez did which was good, and by “only,” it probably does mean literally only in this case.

Anonymous
3 years ago

I swear this guy is a reason for Amazon to consider not moving here. I don’t understand how someone can think so backwards for someone who is leading a city into the “future.” What next? Mass transit horseback rides?

Anonymous
3 years ago

Idk this is weird, just a build a damn train

Jesus
3 years ago

I like this concept but it would not work for the beaches unfortunately. Maybe to expand the rest of what could become an expansive Metromover across Miami would be great but we don’t seem to even get any idea of what the future holds.

Anonymous
3 years ago

Sponsored by Tide

Anonymous
3 years ago

I hate to break it to everyone but the chances of getting light rail or Metromover in South Beach is slim to none. So in light of reality this is the best option. And to speed things up we could implement counterflow lanes on the McCarthur and Tuttle causeways and this could be built sooner rather than later.