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Here's How Many Passengers Have Been Riding Brightline Trains

Here’s How Many Passengers Have Been Riding Brightline Trains

The Palm Beach Post sent reporters onto Brightline trains to get an idea of ridership over a six week period.

Reporters counted passengers on 44 trains, including every day of the week, and at various times throughout the day from early morning to late night.

On average, there were 50 passengers per train, or 20 percent of seats occupied, the Post wrote. If that number is accurate, it would mean over 30,000 passengers per month.

Brightline has said that ridership has tripled expectations.

Once the Miami station comes on line, the company thinks passenger count will rapidly multiply. The forecast provided to bond investors calls for 2.9 million passengers by 2020, or over 240,000 passengers per month.

It also appears that more riders than expected are opting to pay for the more expensive Select Service. Of 240 seats on a train, just 20 percent are Select Class seats, but 44 percent of passengers have been paying to ride Select.

 

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Anonymous
Anonymous

You have to give Brightline a chance. The Miami Station is about to come online and hopefully, Orlando will really make this work. I thank God every day that Brightline took over for what was to originally be an extremely expensive bullet train.

Anonymous
Anonymous

The downtown Miami station is getting close to being ready.. working around the clock.

Anonymous
Anonymous

yeah who would want a faster train?

Anonymous
Anonymous

$20 one way, $40 round trip WPB to MIA. Not bad for a one off trip. For commuting? Uh, no…..the Brightline will not be a commuter train for 20 working days * 40 = 800. Just wake up early and drive there.

Anonymous
Anonymous

“Brightline has said that ridership has tripled expectations.”

They were expecting 17 passengers per train?

Anonymous
Anonymous

Those numbers will change once younger people move from the suburbs to the urban areas. The amount of new construction going on nearby Ft. Lauderdale’s Brightline Station is impressive.

Anonymous
Anonymous

The company is engaged in a very poor public relations effort. I’ve lived and worked here much of my life. No one commutes from Ftl to Mia to work or vice versa. These are very distinct cities. The comparison of this line to the LIRR is so crazilly out of whack. Those of us familiar with it know that the LIRR is a commuter train because many, many. many ppl live in Queens and Nong Island and work in Manhattan. This is an incredible blunder of a concept IMO. I know, I know you who are butt-hurt didn’t ask my opinion though.

Anonymous
Anonymous

They’re end game isn’t to be a south Florida commuter train. From the beginning it’s always been Miami to Orlando.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Then it won’t be a commuter train.

Pjminmia
Pjminmia

I know many people who live in FTL and commute to MIA. No one takes Triral as it doesn’t connect downtown.

Anonymous
Anonymous

No one commutes from FTL to MIA? What an idiotic false statement. The Brightline may or may not end up being a success but thousands of people commute from Fort Lauderdale to Miami for work. That’s indisputable! Some of them even do it on the existing arduous Tri-rail which connects to Metrorail. Statements this stupid should be erased from this site.

Anonymous
Anonymous

No one commutes from downtown to downtown mr numbskull

Anonymous
Anonymous

Yes they do mr dumbass

Anonymous
Anonymous

This is such a dense comment

Anonymous
Anonymous

That’s my experience as well. Most, nearly all people who choose to live in the downtown areas of Miami or downtown areas of Ft Lauderdale also work nearby. Anyone here stating that many live in downtown Ft Laud and work o. Downtown Miami are either shills or idiots.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Clogged I-95 at all times of the day but especially 3-6pm proves the demand. It doesn’t really matter if people use it to commute for work or not. Most people who live in Brickell don’t own a car and use public transit. If you live in a walkable downtown FTL, going to MIA, ORL and vice versa is inevitable. At some point people will be tired of driving 595, the turnpike, or the Palmetto to get to anything other than lawns and gas stations.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Time for you to exhibit your fascist rhetoric.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I commuted for a couple of years from MIA to FTL. I know a number of people in my close circle of friends and acquaintances that do the same or vice-versa.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I did that a couple of years myself. But from the Beach. The FTL Brightline station is an easy walk from where I used to work, but the MIA Brightline station is not easy to get to from the Beach. The commuter benefit here is relatively minimal, but as indicated above, Brightline is not a commuter RR. We still need a vastly more comprehensive approach to rail-based mass transit in South Florida. The SMART Plan is better than nothing, but it is still woefully inadequate, and plugs too many holes with “express” buses. If I were King of Florida, I would set up a South Florida Transportation Authority, like the MTA in New York, and provide a regional light-rail system that stretched from Homestead up to the western ‘burbs of Broward, all connecting to the urban cores.

Anonymous
Anonymous

What the bloody Hell does butt-hurt mean? Some stupid American expression, perhaps.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Even absent any context, I think you’ll figure it out.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I commute to Miami from WPB 1 or 2 days a week. I work remotely the other days. My gf drives to Miami almost once a week for work meetings as well.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Well I live in Boynton Beach and I would theoretically commute to Miami, or Ft. Lauderdale. But $40/day? I’m not even looking in Brickell

Anonymous
Anonymous

Exactly agree, just like orlandos LRT whixh despite all attempt to pretend its been a political success is dead in the water. And to think how beautiful their trains are. This is a very poor attempt to manipulat the facts and keep investors at bay. 40 passengers per train is pathetic. But the state had inly i e way to bring in private investors. Most defnitely this is not LIRR for a hndred reasons and one. We will see….we will see…. this has inly just began. Baseball stadium repeat? Who cares its with private money. Exepct when this enterprise folds over, guess whose money is going to clean up the guess…ours.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Dude wut. If the train fails they will just not run the train anymore.

Anonymous
Anonymous

People who live in Broward and work in downtown Miami live in Pembroke Pines, Weston, and to some degree Miramar. For those not familiar with our geography, these cities are 30 minutes to an hour West of the Ft Laud Brightline terminal. These are the bedroom communities with mostly better schools in Broward County. These people ride the express bus everyday or drive to work in Miami. They’d never drive to the Brightline station in East Ft Lauderdale to ride the Brightline to Miami.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Exactly. And this isn’t for them because it’s not a commuter service. A real solution would be to extend Metrorail up the Palmetto and along I-75. There was some talk of doing that but they bagged it for the express lanes that they are just finishing up. Too bad.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I have no reason to use the train to ft. lauderdale or palm beach – but will try it once it opens to Orlando, and would use it to tampa. Will try the tri rail from downtown once that extends to aventura or design district… but that is not in the cards for some time.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I’m going to tell you people what I’m not going to be doing, as if you givadamn!

Anonymous
Anonymous

And I think Bright line wants to expand to Jacksonville too. The would be sweet to have all 4 major cities in Florida connected

Pjminmia
Pjminmia

Hello. Tampa calling…

The Big P
The Big P

TPA would be great… but the FECR doesn’t own any ROW cross-state. Cococa/JAX would be the next logical financial step, as they build and have owned the tracks & ROW for over 100 years. But the continuation from MCO to TPA would really be “the” answer for FDOT’s sorry answer for a (not) connected freeway system.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Another success story.

Anonymous
Anonymous

It’s a step in the right direction, but a long way to go to truly solve the congestion issue destroying everyone’s commutes…

Barry O'Brien
Barry O'Brien

Brightline is a private company and they are under no obligation to release ridership numbers

Anonymous
Anonymous

I yhink there are obligations to report to transportation comissioners and thus through sunshine laws perhps also general public under a release of public records. Not sure but one thing is clear, its a orivate enterprise with a concession to operate public infta. They do have obligations and kpi abd regulations. In fact , many. Not truly a private consumer driven enterprise.

carlos t cabral
carlos t cabral

Love brightline,never thought i would see anything like this in FLORIDA!…

The little train that cant
The little train that cant

Dont get used to it

BDub
BDub

It will take time to build ridership. Right now it’s a Ft Laud – W Palm shuttle. Once Miami Terminal (yes, it’s a terminal not a station) comes on line, there will be more riders.

Anonymous
Anonymous

The numbers will grow with more destinations. The train from Los Angeles to San Diego is often standing room to race track and will be here soon.

Ybor3366
Ybor3366

I’d use it too if they expanded to Tampa. They need to have a dedicated station just for Disney on I4 (on the Tampa route). A Disney station would become their busiest.

Just my 2 cents, why don’t they share the tracks between Orlando airport and Sunrail. It would benefit both of them.

carlos t cabral
carlos t cabral

Looks like all of the negative coments here never seen a train before.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Remember that most people in South Florida have EVER traveled by train. Down here the most progressive form of mass transportation since the 1960’s is a Volvo Station Wagon.

The little train that cant
The little train that cant

Carlos. Exactly. Ask nicola liquori ceo on sunrail…oh si carlos , many reasons for concern and sceptisims based on this media pitch. If trafic and revenue proyections dont ramp up, and this confirms worst expectations , in convergance with private equity investors roi , guess who picks up the pieces if brightline folds…yep, you and me carlos. Not the bond holders. They have securities. So tax payers moneys pays to pick up the pieces. And you know whats the worst part? Our polititians new the risks of public debt. Yet gambled on this …It suited their political agenda. Ie. It suited their political ambitions. Let me clearer…it suited their goal for wealth, idolisation, and power. Asi es la vida Carlos.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Dear The little train that cant. Interestingly enough most people who are fighting the Brightline Train, are the residents of the Historically Mostly White Affluent Coastal South Florida Neighborhoods(this also applies to the redevelopment of all the S.F. Downtowns). They are using the excuse of protecting taxpayers, preserving The Old South Florida Character, ad the area’s residents quality of life to protect their properties value and their quasi-segregated well-off neighborhood from being contaminated by PROGRESS.
1-Who is paying a halfpenny tax increase dedicated to improving Miami Mass transportation system since 2002?
2-Can you tell me what improvement have we seen in the last 16 years?
3-Even if we have to Bail he Brightline Train out, at least we are paying for a modern transportation system which is transforming the way people commute in South Florida.

The little train that cant
The little train that cant

Dear anonymous, you have no ifea what youre talking about.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I tried to buy tickets online for Friday, all evening returns are sold out.

M.B.
M.B.

….. why don’t they just pull their data from actual sales? I’m sure with that data they could actually see ridership trends. Probably more efficient than deploying a whole bunch of reporters.

Anonymous
Anonymous

The idea is great but it has to be way cheaper in order to make this work. Right now the prices from Miami to West Palm are about $25 bucks for the high end seats meaning you are spending 50 bucks round trip for one person. In a car to West Palm you are not gonna spend more than $25 bucks on gas calculating on how the gas prices are right now round trip. Plus tolls if you take the turnpike worst case scenario $35 bucks round trip to West Palm and back on a car. Overall at the end of the day you are paying more to take the train and you still need a car to get around anywhere in Florida to just save maybe 30 mins or travel time.

Anonymous
Anonymous

It’s way to expensive for what it is I watch it go by me 3.4.times a day empty….and the one way trip to disney is suppose to b.c. e around $140+ one way why would eny one pay that u could fly…rent a car for the weekend for that much it was a idea shoved down the throat of Florida by some big business that just wanted the government money put up….

Anonymous
Anonymous

Round trip coach bus (megabus) Miami to Disney is $40. There are many other coach operators at $45 to $50 round trip. I do not see this competing on that route

Anonymous
Anonymous

Unlike American Suburbia residents, most European Tourists don’t consider travel by train a human degradation. So the Brightline to Orlando will be their #1 option.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Eurpoeans use motor coaches you dunderhead

Anonymous
Anonymous

Always as a second or third option you ASS.

Anonymous
Anonymous

You’ve no idea what you are talking about. Motor coaches are very popular in Europe and are certainly not second-choice transportation.

The little train that cant
The little train that cant

No way . They of all people will rent a car

Anonymous
Anonymous

They rent cars because there are no other options. That is why all the Car rental companies lobbied against the Miami Orlando High-Speed Train.

The little train that cant
The little train that cant

Nope- they rent cars because train does nothing for family in orlando.

The little train that cant
The little train that cant

Booe- rental companies did not lobby . You just made tgat up

The Big P
The Big P

All “new” modes of transportation take a generation to be embedded into our lives. Now it’s just WPB to FLL. That’s a nothing route! But this is actually a pre-opening set of testing and break-in. Adding the MIA Terminal will add-to the testing. Once the Orlando leg is ready–that’ll be the “Grand Opening” and will put the concept to the test. Honestly–these numbers are triple my expectations for this tiny 2-station run!

I hope it exceeds all expectations–that will spur additional routes and systems. And, fingers-crossed, the TriRail Coastal Link running on the FECR tracks! Then the system will truly succeed on moving people from place-to-place. It won’t be a one-seat trip–but better than attempting to drive the Florida Stress-way (a.k.a. Turnpike)!

Tytygh
Tytygh

They need to expand to as many tourist attractions as possible. I fully expect them to reach the Keys, Orlando, and Tallahassee if they want to be profitable.

Anonymous
Anonymous

And to every Orlando hotel room’s door.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Rebuilding the Overseas Railroad to Key West would be an absolute dream.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Boondoggle

Martim F. Lucena
Martim F. Lucena

Not if it it’s full reach is achieved.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Privately funded.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Agreed! This is a complete sham.

The little train that cant
The little train that cant

I agree. Boy the private operatir is going to get creamed… but this is not good for future PPPs