Metromover Could Be Expanded West To FIU Under New Proposal

An expansion of Metromover westward to FIU has become a possibility, according to Miami Today.

A vote by Miami-Dade’s Transportation Planning Organization last week could eventually lead to the new people mover route.

The potential east-west Metromover extension would run along Flagler Street.

It would take about 35-40 minutes to get to FIU, compared to almost 90 minutes currently, according to Miami-Dade commissioner Eileen Higgins, who is also a TPO board member.

Previously, plans for an east-west corridor of the county’s SMART rapid transit plan had called for it to be operated by Bus Rapid Transit, but the TPO board says that plan will no longer be pursued.

Instead, the board voted to ask FDOT to use funding meant to study Bus Rapid Transit instead be used to study a Metromover extension or a rail route on the CSX tracks.

The CSX rail plan is currently the county’s first option for the east-west corridor, but a backup plan is needed if talks with CSX fail, another commissioner said.

 

The BRT east-west corridor map, now being replaced:

 

 

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Broward Dude
19 days ago

I don’t understand the obsession with metromover. This route is over 10 miles long, a people mover is the absolute wrong mode choice! This should be metroRAIL or commuter/regional rail. The beach corridor also should be metroRAIL. The metromover is way too slow, under 10 mph on average, and way too low capacity for these corridors. It’s great on the neighborhood level to move people a few blocks, but for regional level transit it’s wrong. The best thing that could happen to Miami (and South Florida in general) is a combination of metrorail expansion, and commuter/regional rail expansion with increasing frequencies to 15 minutes all day.

Anon
19 days ago

Metromover is free

ParkingHater
19 days ago

It’s flashy and people have no sense of scale. It’s good for like 1000ft stop spacing in a downtown.

But down Flagler??? Just showing how incomplete they are

Anonymous
19 days ago

It’s not flashy at all. Folks here think it’s Disney’s monorail, when it’s basically an airport APC designed in the 1970s to make tire companies rich.

Anonymous
19 days ago

It feels and looks like the Disney monorail to me. Most of us aren’t engineers, but make in a monorail if we can – even better

Tamiami
18 days ago

Monorails aren’t good actually there’s a reason they never took off.

Anon
19 days ago

Transit in Miami is just a series of half-hearted attempts by various administrations

Anonymous
19 days ago

Miami has best public transit in state and region. Quit knocking our amazing city

Anonymous
19 days ago

You mean the corn in a turd?

Not Anonymous
18 days ago

That isn’t really a high bar…

Anonymous
19 days ago

These areas are not meant to feel like separate regions from Miami; rather, they are the last remaining waterfront spaces for development within the city, and a neighborhood-level metro mover would enhance their integration and improve the overall infrastructure quality throughout this extensive waterfront area and large portion of Miami.

Benjamin
14 days ago

Waterfront?
Are you referring to the lime mines west of the airport?
Westchester is the new West Brickell! (The front of Brickell as some would say).

Anonymous
19 days ago

Agree

Jeremey Howlett
18 days ago

Well said, and it seems like such a waste of money given the amount of infrastructure needed to support essentially an automated electric bus. Metro Rail is the best option, hopefully they explore the idea of adding a Metro Rail line from the Airport to Miami Beach. It could be called the MBX(Miami Beach Express) line. It could run from the Miami International Airport along 195 with the first stop at Biscayne Blvd, second stop at Mt. Sinai Hospital, third stop at meridian and Convention center, fourth stop at 14th and Meridian/Flamingo Park, and final stop at 5th and Alton rd. If they do this, traffic in Miami Beach could be reduced significantly. Currently, most of the traffic in Miami Beach is from Ubers and Lyfts transporting people to and from the airport.

Alex
18 days ago

MetroMover has a top speed of 31mph. With a straight shot and limited stops, it would take 35-40 minutes as described in the article.

Zz001
18 days ago

31mph with how much capacity?

Anon
18 days ago

The METRO(rail) extension to Riverside, Little Havana, MIA, and FIU should connect to the line already going to MIA and be one continuous loop in either direction so people can go either way.

MiamiRob
15 days ago

Where are the BILLIONS that have been generated by the Half cent Sales Tax since November of 2002? These half baked Idiots at the County want to give us some cheap ass Metromover route out into the Suburbs instead of a Metrorail line?

Anonymous
19 days ago

Why not just make it a metro line like originally planned…. There’s already a platform at government center

Son of Putin
19 days ago

Because it makes too much sense and they can’t do endless studies for it…

Son of Democracy
19 days ago

The Metro Mover is quieter and resembles an inner city network, while MetroRail feels less safe, as I’ve heard. I would recommend using Metro Mover over MetroRail, as it has a better reputation among urban core residents and can contribute to the growth of the urban core and enhance the beauty of the waterfront properties.

Anonymous
18 days ago

Thanks for the information. Now how do you propose people who live outside of the urban core commute? Still rolling with the Metromover? I hope you enjoy a 1 car system that rolls along at 15 mph for a 20 mile commute. Metrorail is already in place and it works as it’s intended to by moving masses of people at a rapid speed.

Name*
18 days ago

Two cars but they cop out and use one on the outer loops, and it does and would go over 30 on straight aways. Other APMs and light rail go 50 mph (80 kmh) and some even have 4 or more cars.

This west route should use the Gov Center Flagler/1st/2nd Street route and at least be standard gauge medium rail or heavy rail/Metrorail.

Anon
18 days ago

who knew chatbots want free rides

Anonymous
19 days ago

Updating metromover makes more sense because it has 21 stations all over downtown and Brickell including the MDC campus. Metrorail just has one stop in Brickell and one stop at the Government center before leaving the urban core.

Anonymous
19 days ago

It makes zero sense. The Metromover moves at about 15 mph tops while the Metrorail can go about 60 mph. Expanding a people mover system from Downtown all the way to FIU makes no sense.

Anonymous
19 days ago

Unless by “updating” Metromover, he means overhauling the system and rolling stock into something like Vancouver’s SkyTrain or Tokyo’s Yurikamome Line, which would cost more than using what we already have, which is MetroRAIL.

Anon
19 days ago

It doesn’t have to go fast. It’s meant to be scenic and people may only be going one or two stops.it’s being more of a pedestrian area.

Anonymous
18 days ago

Considering a Metromover car can’t even hold a classroom student body why would anyone choose this platform to FIU and the west corridor (or any corridor) when it’s capacity is limited? Those cars will get filled up in one stop and will have overcrowding issues. No thanks. Give us Metrorail.

Anon
19 days ago

You realize they are part of the same transit system? You take one to the other….

Anon
19 days ago

Newcomers and most locals perceive these two systems differently. This is because other city transit networks are seamlessly integrated with different “lines” not different methods.

Metromover feels like Miami’s transit, while Metrorail seems more suited for different city connections, like with like Jersey Transit, LIRR, and Metro North.

If they make the mistake of using Metrorail, these new areas may never truly integrate into the city.

Anonymous
19 days ago

FIU isn’t in the city limits of Miami, nor incorporated.

Anon
19 days ago

This is the final destination, right after the airport. We’ll have both express and local metro mover trains, with some heading directly to FIU, the Airport, Marlins Stadium, Riverside, and Downtown, while others serve local stops. Miami’s city core, nestled along the Miami River and overlooking the bay, boasts numerous incredible destinations that often go unnoticed.

Anon
19 days ago

You can transfer from a local train to an express train to speed up and customize the trip.

Anon
19 days ago

Note: Marlins Stadium stop serves Little Havana / Calle 8

Anonymous
18 days ago

Technically FIU is in an incorporated area called University Park but you could also call it Westchester.

better anon
14 days ago

it is in miami

Anonymous
19 days ago

Why use one platform when you can hop on 3 or 4 different platforms that may take a little more time and expense. Brilliant logic.

Anon
19 days ago

Thats how transit systems work – they are a combination of bus, trolley, light rail, heavy rail, etc. Pretty standard stuff here.

Anonymous
19 days ago

No, you misunderstood. The MIA Airport station already exists and it’s purely Metrorail. So why are we planning a Metromover platform when it’s not meant for long leg distances of 10+ miles considering it moves at 15 mph tops. It’s not meant for that. The Metromover is meant for small loops around Downtown areas where there is density because it doesn’t need to move that fast or load as many people.

Anonymous
19 days ago

Because this isn’t meant to only take you to the airport, there will be lots of stops revitalized neighborhoods in between.

Anonymous
18 days ago

But with the Airport Metrorail station you already have a platform in existence and the only feasible way of expanding mass transit to the western corridor is by heavy rail. They wouldn’t even have to raise it above the surface level as there is already unused train tracks that run along the Airport all the way to Doral. Part of transportation engineering is planning and feasibility studies.

Anonymous
19 days ago

That’s how a regional transit system works not a city transit system.

Anon
19 days ago

We are talking about a regional transit system. FIU isn’t in Miami. We are talking about a county-wide transit system which will obviously use multiple modes.

For the Good of Miami
19 days ago

Exactly it makes our main stations less congested and gives people more direct access where they need to go. Love this metro mover expansion, much better idea for inner city system that metrorail, plus the Urban Core is growing that way!

Anonymous
19 days ago

I’ve heard of the Upper East Side being the “urban core,” but FIU? Wow…

Anonymous
18 days ago

MetroMOVER is not meant of suburban communities. You may live in Brickell/Downtown but not everyone does.

Foor the good of chatbotting
18 days ago

Plus it’s free and you’re too cheap/broke to pay for your transportation

Tamiami
18 days ago

This is the sunk cost fallacy. The fact that Miami wasted money on the metro movers instead of light rail or heavy rail is not good cause to double down on previous bad decisions.

Zz001
18 days ago

You can transfer to the metromover from each of those metro rail stations, so I’m not seeing the point you’re making.

Thenextvicecity
19 days ago

I’m going to have to watch the meeting where they talk about this because at first glance this all seems so odd. Article does mention the CSX tracks are the first option which I hope ends up being the way this moves forward

Anon
19 days ago

I think at the end of the day, it does make more sense to build a Metrorail however a metromover west extension to Little Havana is probably necessary too (either down Flagler to Marlins Park or down Calle 8). So the con of the metro mover to FIU is it seems too far for a slow method of transit but otherwise we’d have to build two separate systems westward.

MiamiRob
15 days ago

A Metromover extension into the Little Havana / Marlins Park neighborhood makes sense since it’s only a couple of miles extra from the current system. Having it extended all the way to FIU over 10 miles away is absolutely absurd! Has the County Transit planning board been replaced by 5 year olds on Tik-Tok?

Anonymous
19 days ago

What will happen is study after study for another five years where the property tax payers keep getting milked by leaches, and nothing tangible ever happens.

Anonymous
19 days ago

Absolutely ! I have been waiting for the Bay link from Downtown to Miami Beach for the last 20 years and it goes from study to study to study…. Miami Dade county voters approved it 2002. The FBI should step in; something smells rotten …

Miami Beach
19 days ago

The real problem with that link is that Miami Beach commisioners do not want to approve anything and do the most for the process not to go smooth. Since having a metro would mean that they cant keep their zoning laws

Anonymous
19 days ago

Miami Beach is not run well, and overrated.

Anonymous
19 days ago

The FBI is too busy conducting fake investigations into their boss’ political opponent.

Al Czervik
19 days ago

Wait a minute….

You just sat there and waited for 20 years?!?

Someone do a wellness check! One of The Next Miami’s Anonymuses may be unwell…

In other news…
Tourism has increased in Miami Beach in the last 20 years.
Business has thrived in the last 20 years.
More and more people live, travel, and work in Miami Beach and in Miami.

Do WE NEED it?

Bilbo Baggins
18 days ago

Screw that Miami Beach residents like myself don’t want it. Stay away

MiamiRob
15 days ago

So you prefer to be stuck on the MacArthur Causeway with the 14,000 Bus passengers that commute daily between downtown Miami and South Beach instead?…Got ya !

Here’s a Free Study
19 days ago

Metro Mover Benefits:

Quieter
Suitable for short inner-city trips
Scenic views
Frequent service
Smaller, more intimate cars
Often less crowded
Easier to navigate for newcomers
Typically cleaner and well-maintained

MetroRail Drawbacks:

Can be noisy
Longer wait times off-peak
Safety concerns in some areas
Potential delays
Limited scenic views
Larger, more crowded cars
May require transfers
Less safe
Probability of people to sleeping, loitering and leaving trash on cars
Higher fares for longer distances
Separate from the City MetroMover

Anon
18 days ago

Just say you want a free ride

Al Czervik
19 days ago

Hmmmm…so you mean the people in the Goverment Train business all scratch each other’s backs at the expense of the taxpayers who’d never ride a government train?

I think I get it.

But the WE NEEDS need a new Metromover extension.
And the WE NEEDS will select the worst possible vendor to make their dreams come through.

ParkingHater
19 days ago

I’m sorry but anyone who thinks metromover is a good idea for 10 miles is getting caught with their pants down. Nuts

Anon
19 days ago

That’s 10 Miles of city growth potential when there’s no other way to grow

Anonymous
19 days ago

There is, called Metrorail and underutilized CSX lines, for systems that will actually have enough capacity to get residents out of their cars.

Anonymous
19 days ago

There’s plenty of room to grow. The TNM buildings aren’t up yet

Anonymous
19 days ago

Uh, why? Just make it the Metrorail line like it was designed for.

Anonymous
19 days ago

Metrorail extends out in all directions. Keep the Metromover to Downtown and brickell. It’s a special option for the densest areas

Anonymous
18 days ago

Metrorail is meant for longer distances with more passengers hence the reason why it goes all the way from Dadeland to Hialeah. Metromover is a denser neighborhood platform hence the reason why it’s in Downtown/Brickell. Anyone who cannot comprehend this logic probably has trouble with adding and subtracting numbers.

BDub
19 days ago

Silly question, but why build a Metromover line which is disconnected from the rest of the system instead of extending the existing Metrorail Orange line?

ParkingHater
19 days ago

no reason, It’s dumb and a terrible idea. Doesn’t have the capacity. There is a reason the rest of the world has long metros.

They know the orange line extension is the gold standard, but don’t wanna pay for it

Anonymous
19 days ago

You bring up a real good question. You should ask the Miami-Dade county commission what they’re smoking.

Greg
18 days ago

Dag . For crying out loud. This whole transportation idea needs to extend south and north. South Florida has grown tremendously and continues to do so

Anonymous
19 days ago

FIU college students want free rides to overpriced downtown establishments.

John
19 days ago

this is what they should be pursuing…extending the line from the airport station down lejeune then west along flagler or 8th street to FIU. This metromover idea is total bs.

Anon
19 days ago

10+ miles on the metromover? Why not just have people ride on turtles, it would be just as fast.

Anonymous
19 days ago

Riding a bike might be faster.

Anonymous
19 days ago

There will be less turns so it’ll be able to faster, plus we will insist on express trains to prime spots

Anonymous
19 days ago

If only we had separate barrieres for bike lanes

Agree
19 days ago

Not to mention, there is no seating on those things.

Anon
19 days ago

That’s 10 miles of highly valuable waterfront neighborhoods that could be thriving if it had a local level metro mover.

Anon
18 days ago

They are thriving just find without the free beercan shortbus

Anon
19 days ago

None of this is ever happening – stop believing this garbage

Anonymous
19 days ago

Good riddance! Metromoober outside of Greater Downtown Miami is ridiculous.

Anonymous
19 days ago

It’s going to take awhile to get built and by then you’ll be glad they started it now.

Anon
19 days ago

People said those exact words 40 years ago.

Use Gov Center west plaform for any rail !
19 days ago

The East-West unused Metrorail platform at Government Center for a future red line can be used for ANY rail mode going west. That line would not connect onto the existing line, so it could be a light or medium rail transit line to FIU. It doesn’t have to be the same size and voltage as the Green/orange line Metrorail trains.

ParkingHater
19 days ago

No, god no. Heavy rail.

And build the PG6 bus terminal with express buses.

Anonymous
19 days ago

No more buses.

Tamiami
18 days ago

We need more metroreail but we also do need more busses with dedicated bus lanes.

wanderer34
19 days ago

The Metromover? Don’t you mean the Metrorail will expand to FIU? The Metromover is a low capacity form of mass transit and thinking of the vast number of students who attend FIU plus the numerous amount of potential commuters who live in west Miami-Dade, you’d expect Miami Dade County to at least consider expanding the Metrorail to FIU, but I guess we voted in a bunch of dumbasses instead!

Anonymous
18 days ago

Best comment.

Anonymous
19 days ago

Being a Brickell resident invested in Miami’s growth, I fully support this proposal. The Metro Mover serves as the city’s local transportation, while the rail system covers countywide transit. This allows for city expansion towards the west along the Miami River and connects vital opportunity zones in Riverside, Little Havana (near Marlins Baseball Stadium), FIU, the airport, and underutilized areas, significantly improving our city’s connectivity to these essential areas.

Anonymous
19 days ago

FIU isn’t in the City of Miami, nor is MIA which is already served by the Metrorail and Tri-Rail. The Metromover was built to serve Greater Downtown Miami, which Riverside is not part of.

Anon
19 days ago

Metro mover should serve the entire city core which is nearly full. FIU is the final destination, right after the airport. We’ll have both express and local metro mover trains, with some heading directly to FIU, the Airport, Marlins Stadium/Little Havana, Riverside, and Downtown, while others serve local stops. Miami’s city core, nestled along the Miami River and overlooking the bay, boasts numerous incredible destinations that often go unnoticed.

Anonymous
19 days ago

It’s no where near nearly full. Maybe in 10 years go west for now maybe develop riverside

Al Czervik
19 days ago

Unnoticed by who?

Have they invented a short bus version of ChatGPT?

Anonymous
19 days ago

“Downtown” isn’t necessarily at the southern end; it’s simply the city’s central endpoint. In cities like Seattle, downtown isn’t at the southern end either. If you rotate the map 90 degrees counterclockwise, it reveals ‘Greater Downtown’ to the east, opening up more space and growth opportunities.

Al Czervik
19 days ago

For those who haven’t figured this out yet (apparently there are lot of posters who were never Boy Scouts or took a Paul George class) the City of Miami and Miami Dade County is mapped with Flagler St as 0 street and Miami Ave as 0 Avenue.

The County is divided into quadrants, NE, SE, SW, & NW.

ParkingHater
19 days ago

At 30 miles per hour. Lol

Anonymous
19 days ago

I initially supported the Metro Mover, but my opinion has changed, and I now have no strong preference. I agree that updating Little Havana is important, and a 10-mile Metro Rail may be more suitable. Keeping the Metro Mover in Downtown is a good idea, and expanding it too much might congest the city. Bringing it to Edgewater and Wynwood seems reasonable, and express trains to key destinations would be beneficial.

Anonymous
19 days ago

Where’s the Bay Link to Miami Beach ? It was approved by Miami Beach citizens and Miami Dade county voters 22+ years ago. Something’s not right!

MiamiRob
15 days ago

Go ask Miami Beach Commissioners why they keep opposing “BayLink” ! Just look at all of the Laws they just passed regarding “Spring Break & Urban Beach Weekend” coming up.

Build Miami
19 days ago

While I do prefer this being metrorail over Metromover, building the west corridor along Flagler makes a LOT more sense than along the 836. At one point there’s the airport on one side and a bunch of lakes on the other. However, Flagler is a more dense area and would spur needed development in Little Havana. Calle 8 would be even better and closer to FIU too but I’m guessing that’s too much to ask for.

Anonymous
19 days ago

Should use the east-west Metrorail platform at Government Center Station, or streetcars along Calle 8 then.

Anonymous
19 days ago

Call 8 should be pedestrian only and divert traffic around it in that vibrant hub for at least a few blocks.

Anon
18 days ago

^^says no one with a brain

Tamiami
18 days ago

They should also have a tram line going down the entire length of 8th street.

wanderer34
19 days ago

I would’ve just used Dolphin Expwy just to connect to certain sites such as FIU, Palmetto, Blue Lagoon, Loan Depot Park, and linked the line at Culmer, and maybe used I-95 as a ROW until it can at least link at Gov’t Center, and maybe expand into Miami Beach or all the way to Key Biscayne, Coral Gables, or Southland and Zoo Miami.

Anon
19 days ago

TNM—-TheNextMetromover

anonymous
19 days ago

Metromover will be like 10% cheaper then just building out the full metrorail. Is it really worth that tiny cost save to then have a suboptimal major trunk line route that will serve thousands of people a day?

Anonymous
19 days ago

want a study????? load the politicians in an uber and drive flagler……study completed…..

Anonymous
19 days ago

I wish the commisioners had to live in Miami, they all live in fancy suburbs?

hmm
18 days ago

They do represent the whole county… Miami proper makes up a fifth of that

Have Arthritis
19 days ago

Standing for 40 minutes ?

Anonymous
19 days ago

It’s a local train not meant for distance, you can transfer to the metrorail if you want to sit.

Anonymous
19 days ago

…which is why any expansion outside of Downtown Miami should be MetroRAIL.

Anonymous
19 days ago

Disagree. These are local stops. They are along the center of the city, just not developed yet, but that’s purpose of doing this to enable development.

Anonymous
19 days ago

studies studies studies studies studies studies …endless studies…….never soutions

Anonymous
19 days ago

Stop doing studies and do something for God’s sake!

penny tax
19 days ago

could’ve, should’ve, would’ve

Jonathan Lawson
19 days ago

We hear that a lot here at Colonial Penn

Anon
19 days ago

“A vote by Miami-Dade’s Transportation Planning Organization last week could eventually lead to the new people mover route”

*could* and *eventually* being the key words there. That means “wont” and “never”

Name*
19 days ago

This must be an error. The CSX ground tracks are more like commuter rail (Tri Rail etc),
the opposite of MM/light rail. Even Metrorail would be small on a freight line.

Anonymous
19 days ago

Um, it goes at 30 miles and hour tops, and hardly has the capacity of a classroom. Makes you wonder why transit is a joke here.

Anonymous
19 days ago

I hope people realize that if we do this most people won’t have to live ten miles away from the city because they’ll have nicer options closer to downtown

Anon
18 days ago

but not everyone can or even wants to live near downtown

LVE
18 days ago

How can Miami Dade boast to be a world-class center if they don’t even have one of its major universities connected to rail? West Dade is where the working class of Miami lives. Convince CSX to play ball and expand the METRO RAIL.

Name*
18 days ago

Flagler or Calle Ocho or even dam Coral Way would be way better route than the airport tracks thru nowhere next to nothing. The CSX tracks could be commuter rail.

EJS
19 days ago

I understand the sentiment expressed favoring metrorail over MMover but I think that MMover might provide more options for living/working in the urban core. Flagler in East Little Havana feels so cut off from downtown, when it really is an extension of downtown which, in my view, should be developed with much higher density. Adding MMover stations cld integrate the neighborhood so much better.

anonymous
19 days ago

you realize that litte havana is very close to downtown miami vs. having metromover go all the way to FIU? I agree would be nice to see an extension there but this is a way bigger distance to cover and metromover is good for shorter distances

Anonymous
19 days ago

Do you realize it’s going along Flagler and can stop at little Havana?

Anonymous
19 days ago

It’s cut off because I-95, and planners built an east-west Metrorail platform at Government Center Station for expansion into Riverside and Miami Beach.

Name*
17 days ago

That platform may have only been built to go west. To go to Miami Beach it would have to somehow go through Bayside and over the water past Dodge Island, over or under the ships and then to the beach. It’s possible though.

Anonymous
19 days ago

Maybe a combo of 2 systems

Tamiami
18 days ago

MMover is unnecessary. Just build a dedicated bus lane or tram they would work better and be cheaper.

MiamiRob
15 days ago

Why does our Rail Transit systems always have to be “cheaper” when we spend Billions on our highways and Millions for fancy Toll Plazas where you don’t even have to stop to pay a Toll anymore? Miami has the density to support our Rail systems & expand them but some like you always want to “cheapen” out on that !

Anonymous
19 days ago

On one hand, you have Carollo forcing parking in the urban core and the other you have Higgens contemplating a system designed for the urban core to be extended miles away. For every loon, there’s an equal and opposite loon.

Anonymous
19 days ago

You can’t compare them. Higgins is a visionary who genuinely listens to her constituents. Many of us commend her forward-thinking work, which is crucial at this moment. She consistently shows up and advances remarkable proposals like this one 👏

Anonymous
19 days ago

The ad on that beer can shortbus says it all. Metrorail is executive golf while Metromoober is (and goes) putt-putt.

Anonymous
19 days ago

It’s the opposite mover is a privlwdge reserved for the densest most exclusive parts of Miami

Anon
18 days ago

Metromoober goes to Pinecrest and Key Biscayne and Fisher Island and Golden Beach? Who knew.

Traintrak
18 days ago

All I know is that the only realistic solution imo would be commuter rail, just have Tri-Rail run it and have nothing to do with the county’s DOT.

Anonymous
19 days ago

What’s going to happen to the FDOT demonstration project that was supposed to break ground this Summer on Flagler street? For those that don’t know, they were going to build bus lanes on Flagler and 1st Avenue and study how it would affect traffic.

Anon
19 days ago

Never going to happen