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Miami Approves 82-Story 2nd & 2nd Tower After 16 Months Of Review

Miami Approves 82-Story 2nd & 2nd Tower After 16 Months Of Review

An 82-story tower known as 2nd & 2nd was granted approval last week when Miami’s Office of Zoning granted waivers needed from the Miami 21 zoning code.

A notice issued on the city’s website confirmed the approval was issued November 26. Plans for the tower were first submitted in July 2017, making it 16 months of review.

If construction were to begin today, it would become the tallest building in Miami at its proposed 898-foot height. Brickell’s Panorama Tower is now the tallest at 868 feet, although several buildings are proposed above the 1,000-foot mark including Skyrise, where excavation is underway.

A Courtyard by Marriott hotel would need to be demolished to make way for the new 2nd & 2nd tower.

As reviewed by the UDRB earlier this year, the development would encompass more than 1.5 million square feet, including:

  • 266 hotel rooms
  • 637 residential units
  • 9,245 square feet of retail
  • 553 parking spaces

Convention Center Hotel Corp. of Yonkers, NY submitted the plans. The developer is a subsidiary of AVR Realty.

NBWW is the architect.

 

Courtyard by Marriott to be demolished:

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Anonymous
Anonymous

Beautiful tower. Very city like. I even like the name.

Anonymous
Anonymous

PLEASE BUILD THIS AND DONT FLIP IT PLEASE

Anonymous
Anonymous

This intersection is going to be CHAOS lol

Anonymous
Anonymous

You are correct but trust me no one who lives near this will be laughing. We need a tunnel plain and simple. I wish the city would make it happen like they did for the Port of Miami. The traffic is horrible now but with thousand of more units being built it will truly be chaos!

Anonymous
Anonymous

At least during the 4 years construction the access to Brickell and Downtown will be catastrophic , that happened with the tower across the street

Anonymous
Anonymous

Which will be completed first: the construction at this intersection or the construction of the tower?

Anonymous
Anonymous

My money’s on the tower.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Um.. too close to call….

Anonymous
Anonymous

lol. But seriously, why does it take so long for small street construction projects here? I think it took over 6 months for them to complete the project on S Biscayne Blvd where they close 2 lanes of traffic. Most days, I would go out for lunch, and I would see no one working. Why is that? In cities like Japan they’ll do projects bigger than this overnight! Is it because of unions?

Anonymous
Anonymous

Its because FDOT is an incompetent piece of crap!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Union workers! One holds the flag, and six watch to ensure the sway of the flag is correct for the incoming traffic.

Anonymous
Anonymous

16 months of review.. Heck, Melo could build two towers in less time than that!

Danny
Danny

Can’t build something this nice tho

Anonymous
Anonymous

More like three, their most recent tower in the Omni already has one tower topped off.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Uff, no you didnt!!..You cant compare this Tower to a Melo tower…really!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Boy, you really ain’t much when it comes to reading, are you?

Anonymous
Anonymous

Melo..? They are a disaster and their finish of poor quality, clear example the Aria.

Polo
Polo

Awesome looking tower!

Anonymous
Anonymous

I’m in love with this one!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Nice upgrade!

Anonymous
Anonymous

The Miami Tower that is famous for its lights looks so small now.

Azarius
Azarius

Great project but will never be built or if it is it’s going to be flipped and redeveloped by someone else 3 cycles from now… too many units coming into play that have been approved for some time. We need more affordable units that aren’t broom closets and more 50K jobs in the downtown core. But 3 problems stand in the way 1. Local Politicians 2. Too low wages 3. Better public transportation … but I keep dreaming like the rest of 305!

Anonymous
Anonymous

I might agree, but this location right in the middle of the CBD commands high prices. Affordable units should be built along Metrorail stops in underutilized areas.

Anonymous
Anonymous

“Great project but will never be built or if it is it’s going to be flipped and redeveloped by someone else 3 cycles from now… ”

I bet you’re one of the people who said the same thing about the Aston Martin building.

Azarius
Azarius

Actually No I knew that was getting built they were very progressive with planning and getting permit approvals unlike Mana properties

Anonymous
Anonymous

Please let this be real!!!

Anonymous
Anonymous

I look at the site everyday an we all guess on which projects will be a flip. I normally believe most will be built but for some reason I think this will be a flip. I really hope not but my gut tells me flip ugh!

Anonymous
Anonymous

love the tower….traffic in that area is brutal!

Anonymous
Anonymous

finally a real downtown building.

Anonymous
Anonymous

If the developer intends to build, I’ll help for free demoing the existing building.

Magazine
Magazine

As much as Miami progresses and continues to attract jobs, it appears developers still believe the primary owners of these units will be out of towners, whether foreigners or snow birds. I don’t have official numbers, but it seems like most new proposed residential projects downtown and in Brickell are also incorporating a fair amount of hotel units as well. That to me signals these buildings aren’t meant for full-time residents.

Anonymous
Anonymous

what a beauty!!! i really hope it gets built.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Skyrise sucks…I won’t get over it

Polo
Polo

Well, get over it! The escavation for the tower is underway.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I like it it!! Except for that White Flat Roof slab at the top deck…Seems like the creative juices ran out at this level.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Yeah no.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Ugly

Interested
Interested

Traffic wise, this is the worst intersection in downtown. City of Miami planners need to wake up!

Dan
Dan

This kind of looks like a more modern version of what met 3 was supposed to look like

Eric
Eric

What’s with ppl in miami always whining about parking parking? Come to DC and you will learn and adapt. Lack of parking forces ppl to use mass transit. Everytime i need to go to downtown DC for something i jump on the train/subway. Lack of parking and high priced parking will force ppl to adapt.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Which train should we jump on? The one that goes to the Beach or the one to Wynwood or maybe out West..

Eric
Eric

In saying they need to build mass transit then ppl would adapt.

Anonymous
Anonymous

you cant adapt unless theres something readily available to adapt to (i.e., reliable and easily accessible transit services)

Anonymous
Anonymous

I think it would be better if this Marriott hotel turned into a rental building instead of tearing it down. 2nd & 2nd is a beautiful skyscraper, but there are other ugly and useless buildings downtown that I wouldn’t mind seeing replaced by this architectural gem. There are a lot of people who would love to just have a room to rent and wouldn’t mind going downstairs or out somewhere to eat.

Master Angler
Master Angler

Panorama tower is 85 floors, making it taller than this project (approved for up to 82 floors). You may want to update. Would also be nice if they paid homage to the Courtyard Marriott in the architectural design.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Office floors are taller than residential. Its about height, not stories. How many “Floors” will skyrise have a dozen, two dozen?

Anonymous
Anonymous

Uhh.. reread that article, it says “If construction were to begin today, it (2nd & 2nd) would become the tallest building in Miami at its proposed 898-foot height. Brickell’s Panorama Tower is now the tallest at 868 feet.

Hugh Madson
Hugh Madson

Yes, but in most of the world, building height is measured in meaters, so tallest in terms of feet might be technically true, but to most people it doesn’t really matter – Panorama will still hold the title

Anonymous
Anonymous

I guess you are one of the “most people” you are referring to. Your wife is 5ft 7ins tall and you are 6ft 2ins tall.. but it doesn’t matter because to most women she still holds the title of being taller than you.

Hugh Madson
Hugh Madson

No, I am 1.88m and my girlfriend is 1.7m. I’m more in meaters and feet, obviously. Scale matters, just like -40 degrees Fahrenheit is the same as -40 degrees Celsius, but 100 degrees Fahrenheit is much colder than 100 degrees Celsius – you’d know this if your degree was worth more than the paper it’s written on – yes, I am talking about you Mr. FIU grad.

Anonymous
Anonymous

What’s the difference between meaters and meters Mr. Hialeah Institute of Technology grad?

Anonymous
Anonymous

“Hialeah Institute of Technology grad?”

Are you sure Mr Madson is not a Trump University grad?

Hugh Madson
Hugh Madson

Look, I appreciate you trying to learn but my time is very valueable. If you want me to shove some knowledge into that cesspit of cretinism you call a brain, it’s going to cost you a pretty penny. Let me know if you’re interested and I’ll whip up a reading list for you to get started on.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Please post reading list!

Anonymous
Anonymous

pay homage to the Courtyard Marriott in the architectural design…? what in the bath salts are you smoking???

Anonymous
Anonymous

Reading is fundamental, I suggest you take a class on comprehension.

Anonymous
Anonymous

It’s a broken record but we’ll never become a great city if we keep building hundreds of additional parking spaces in our downtown.

Danny
Danny

We need more office buildings to become a greater city in my opinion

Anonymous
Anonymous

This is true but the fact that so many residential high rises have been built makes Miami’s urban core 1) unique and 2) 24/7 live work play.

Danny
Danny

Agreed, however 75% are completely unaffordable to the average family unit.

Anonymous
Anonymous

True. Average and below average people do not need to live in an above average neighborhood.
Harsh, but true.

Hugh Madson
Hugh Madson

We need more people that can function productively in an office environment – Not just a bunch seista-taking, ferragamo-moccasin-wearing dinguses that think a bluetooth headset and a leased porsche that’s half their paycheck makes them have some sort of business acumen. That being said, I appreciate them keeping my repo/tow truck business thriving even in this booming Trumpian Economy!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Jealous much trumptard? The people you describe make 10 times what you make with your wannabe “business”. I can buy your 1996 Ford towing truck with pocket change and replace you with another red neck driver.

Hugh Madson
Hugh Madson

Found the Ferragamo owner – and it looks like he didn’t get his siesta in today! I’ll have you know that any one of my 2018 Ford 650 car carriers costs more than the base model porsche 911 you can’t afford, look it up if you don’t believe me they’re over 100k. Truth hurts doesn’t it? Thanks for lining my pockets!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Go away, Hugh.

Danny
Danny

I’ll give you the booming Trump economy but that’s about it

Anonymous
Anonymous

You mean the “booming Obama economy.”

Anonymous
Anonymous

“Booming Obama economy?” LOL, the old coach doesn’t get the credit for a football team’s successful season. The economy might have rebounded under Obama after the Republicans took Congress, but of course, low growth was the “new normal” and now Trump makes Obama eat those words.

I tell you, if the economy tanks in a year, libtards will blame Trump as opposed to the psychos you placed in charged of the House, who would run the country into the ground if they could all because ORANGE MAN BAD delusions.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Lol.. another Republikook that believes whatever Con-old Trump says.

I remember, I think it was the debate between Trump and Hillary, the moderator asked Trump “you’re always saying how bad the economy is.. what plans or programs do you have to put in place to bring the economy out of this condition you say it’s in if you become president?” (or words to that effect). Con-old Trump said “I hire people to fix things.. that’s what I do.” Now tell me, O’wise and intelligent one.. name the people that Trump hired who magically turned an economy around that Con-old Trump call “a disaster” because all I see is Con-old Trump beating his chest and claiming what he did. Now if you don’t believe anything I said, just google it and find out for yourself.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I want you to see the amount of Government spending that is going on right now. Then come back to me and tell me that the economy is roaring due to organic small business growth as Trump is currently touting like a mad man.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Its because he is spending like a mad man. That is why growth is up so much. he has increased the deficit in 2 years as much as Obama increased it in 8. So PLEASE shut up and take your low growth BS to another forum!

and here is your source if you give a crap. Cause i know those are the first words that will come out of your mouth.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/federal-budget-deficit-hits-6-year-high-in-donald-trumps-first-fiscal-year-as-president/

Anonymous
Anonymous

What’s a “dinguses?”

Hugh Madson
Hugh Madson

I’d tell you to look it up but I think your comment defines it better than Merrian Webster. Look no further!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Awww Mr Madson, don’t be so coy!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Why was this moronic, racist comment even necessary? Stop taking this idiot’s bait.

Anonymous
Anonymous

At least there are less parking spaces than residential units. Baby steps.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Good, you got your “parking rocks” off.. now get back to your soap operas.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Until mass transit is expanded there have to be garages. We can’t stop development to wait for gov mass transit lest we stagnate.

Anonymous
Anonymous

At least this parking garage looks pretty. Even with good transit, some parking will still be needed for what this building commands.