Miami Asks Brightline To Consider Reducing Parking At Planned Supertowers

Miami planners are asking Brightline to consider building fewer parking spaces at their two planned Supertowers.

The two 850-foot towers are planned at MiamiCentral, on property that is arguably the best connected to transit anywhere in Miami.

Within a block are stations for Brightline trains, Tri-Rail (planned), Metrorail, Metromover, and bus.

According to the most recent site plan for the project submitted on December 20, the supertowers are planned to include:

  • 2,007 residential units
  • 2,136 parking spaces

The project is being reviewed by Miami-Dade planners rather than City of Miami planners. In certain areas near Miami-Dade rapid transit corridors, developers have the option of going through county review rather than city, which generally allows more intense development with fewer rules.

The city comments requesting parking reduction was initially made in September. Since then however, Brightline’s architects only reduced parking by 3, from an original plan of 2,139 spaces.

On December 20, Miami planners sent the county a letter asking that the list of eight comments on the project become a condition of final approval.

The other comments include requests for streetscape improvement, more open space, and pedestrian passageways.

A public hearing before Miami-Dade commissioners is scheduled for January 20.

 



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Anonymous
11 days ago

I’m all for reducing parking as long as we increase public transportation. No buses!! We need the Metromover to be be extended and improved. You can’t be a major city if you rely on cars but you also can’t expect people to leave the car home without a great alternate option.

Anonymous
11 days ago

I’m sorry but buses are vital to all mass transportation systems. But I agree they need to improve the metro system as well

Anonymous
11 days ago

Buses are a thing of the past. I lived in many big cities and people hate buses, residents and tourists.

Anonymous
11 days ago

I agree. I’m from NYC and I love the subway but I literally never took a bus!

Anonbttm
11 days ago

If you *literally* never took a bus, why are you commenting on their merit?

Anonymous
11 days ago

I’m agreeing with the comment above. I can agree that drugs are bad without having taken one. I’m literally (without quotes) never took a bus because they don’t feel as a good option like the subway is. This is my opinion and I expressed it. You should try expressing yourself instead of leaving empty comments around.

Anonbttm
11 days ago

An empty comment is dragging a transportation option that you’ve never even tried. Miami’s bus system isn’t “world class” but it’s not as bad as people make it out to be, especially the folks that have never used it. Buses are an important element in any modern transportation system, and they can be great. It’s a choice to create a bad system, or to not improve one. We’re not improving Miami’s transport system by waiting around for Elon and we’re simply not going to get a robust system like NYC’s subway. The sooner people accept that, the sooner we can move on to creating options that are fast, reliable, and will be realized way faster.

Anonymous
11 days ago

Oh please. I took a few buses in Miami and they are terrible. The Metromover is a good option but has too few stops and it’s too slow to get you anywhere quickly. Miami’s public transportation is a joke and so are all the bike lanes and other options besides cars. Cars are the main focus and traffic sucks. Wake up

Anonymous
11 days ago

I have taken nearly every form of transportation in Miami (except for the Hawk’s Seaplanes).
I took buses for longer that I would have liked, but it was there when there were hard times. It was a safety net for me. They went anywhere that I needed the bus to go. My feet could do the rest.

The buses are what they are.
One man’s ceiling is another man’s floor.

Your OPINION is that Miami traffic sucks. ok.
You are entitled to your own opinion. Compared to where?

Is there another waterfront city (with an International Airport within 12 minutes of the CBD) that has “better traffic” than Miami?

Anonymous
10 days ago

The bus stops are not covering from sun or rain. Only in key biscayne the bus stops are suitable with miami weather.

Anonymous
11 days ago

There are 2 types of people:

1. Those who can make sense of incomplete information

Anonymous
11 days ago

Anonbttm….a lot of young people are not well versed in logic or in the meaning of the word literally.
However, they were told that their feelings and opinions have as much merit as someone who does understand logic and understands the meaning of words.
So, let them get together and create a confederacy of dunces so that they vote for the most amazing public transit ever!!!!
The people who ask, “Who is going to pay for that?” will be relegated to The Gulch whilst the meek inherit the earth.

Anonymous
10 days ago

Let me guess, you never ask “how will we pay for more roads” though, right? Because if you were truly informed, you’d know that taxes (gas primarily), impact fees, and user fees (tolls) do not actually cover road construction 100%. Driving a personal car is probably one of the most heavily subsidized activities in the US.

Anonymous
9 days ago

Because buses are for the poors.

Anonymous
11 days ago

I’m in NYC and take bus all the time. Especially in the outer Burroughs

Anonymous
11 days ago

Outer boroughs are really “the city” though. They don’t really count. NYC here also…in Manhattan.

Anonymous
11 days ago

So both Brooklyn and the Bronx, both with almost 3x the population density as Miami don’t qualify as being part of “the city”? I’m also from Manhattan, and taking the crosstown bus is super convenient. I prefer the subway in most scenarios but like the poster above mentioned buses are a vital part of any cohesive public transport network.

Anonymous
11 days ago

Excellent post.^^^
The City of Miami (population +/- 460,000) has great transportation and walkable, safe, streets. The rest of Miami Dade (excepting Miami Beach) is not really dense.

Anonymous
11 days ago

You’re from NYC?.. welcome! Now go back up there and talk to some more of your brothers into moving down here to Miami. Miami needs them.

Anonymous
11 days ago

Buses are ghetto

Anonymous
11 days ago

Besides the right of way whats the difference between a subway/metro car and a bus?

Anonymous
11 days ago

…. still thinking….

Anonymous
11 days ago

“ghetto.”

Such an overused word in a small vocabulary.

Anonymous
11 days ago

There is hardly a difference between buses and metro rail cars.

Anonymous
11 days ago

Nah….there are MAJOR differences.
#1. Metrorail costs BBBBillions of dollars more over a 10 year period.
#2. Metrorail makes fewer stops and “THEORETICALLY” should have a more predictable and consistent schedule at its multimillion dollar stations.
#3. Once you build a Metrostation in a stupid place, you are stuck with it for a few generations. Buses are flexible and you can change routes easily.

Anonymous
10 days ago

Another: if a rail car derails, that impacts every car that traverses that rail line (multiple routes can be impacted). A tire blows out on a bus, and you can send another bus out very quickly.

And another: Busses can still travel during blackouts (assuming police are directing traffic at downed lights), whereas rail is SOTL without that electrified third rail.

Anonymous
11 days ago

So are unshaven faces, bicycles without brakes and homemade beer.

Anonymous
11 days ago

Brain dead take

EJS
11 days ago

Buses without dedicated bus lanes will do little to either attract passengers or to decrease congestion. Without dedicated lanes, and police enforcement of making sure those lanes are only used by buses, the buses only add to the street congestion.

Anonymous
7 days ago

Agreed, there are actually a lot of alternatives to bus-like services, for example trams/streetcars, they dont always have to look like some mega dong

Anonymous
11 days ago

We need a real mass transit system that connects the entire city, not only the downtown area.

Azarius
11 days ago

I rather buy a car before riding the bus

Anonymous
11 days ago

With all the new thousand residents moving to Miami, soon you will hate driving your car and you will hope for a great mass transportation system.

Anonymous
10 days ago

Suburbans people hate the mass transit as they hate to walk.

Anonymous
11 days ago

The bus: being behind it is almost as bad as being on it

Anonymous
11 days ago

lol…

Anonymous
11 days ago

Except that being in your car (which, theoretically, should smell better) allows you to sit in leather seats with climate control and A/C units that don’t drip water from the ceiling on you. You are also able to talk on the phone in private in a car. If you are doing important business, and confidential business, that last place you want to do it is in a train car.

Anonymous
11 days ago

“You can’t be a major city if you rely on cars”

LA, Houston, Atlanta, Dallas have entered the chat.

Anonymous
11 days ago

You can’t be a major city if you rely on cars? What about LA?

Anonymous
11 days ago

…and Toronto.

Anonymous
11 days ago

What a dumb thing to say…. can’t be a major city if you rely on cars…. ever heard of this little place called LOS ANGELES… no way this got a legitimate 37 upvotes, something not Kosher here

Anonymous
10 days ago

Are you just realizing that?

Anonymous
10 days ago

LA is currently undergoing one of the largest mass transit upgrades in the country because the sprawl induced by car-based development is screwing them over today with grid-lock, horrible air quality, higher rates of asthma, and a whole list of other things. Some of this is due to outdated nationwide zoning laws (ie. separating residential from small-scale commercial, single-family zoning ONLY in most areas), but it goes hand in hand with car-dependancy and is a byproduct of 1950/60 era urban planning.

Anonymous
11 days ago

Buses still have more capacity than those little electric shortbuses you’re obsessed with. What we need MetroRAIL extensions, and to places that are feasible like FIU and Miami Beach, not Miami Gardens.

Anonymous
7 days ago

It was promised it better be built otherwise half cent tax will be resended and no more expansion of any more transportation. Understand

Anonymous
11 days ago

“We”
“Need”
Nonsense.
#1. Nothing is wrong with buses, they work fine.
#2. A lot of thoughtful people would say that NYC, Mexico City, Tokyo, Sao Paolo, and Shanghai are “major cites”. Those same people notice that cars exist in large quantities and buses exist in large quantities. Ergo, you CAN be a major city and have a large percentage of people rely on cars.
#3. Creating an “alternate option” does not get people out of their cars. It attracts more POPULATION to the city and attracts more cars.

Robin Stan
11 days ago

No matter your stance on individual car ownership, you have to agree that over 2000 parking spaces on the Transit Oriented Development that will be able to connect you all the way to Orlando is excessive.

Anonymous
11 days ago

You don’t take into account all the visitors these residents will get from in and out of town who will be able to leave their parked vehicles and take the Brightline trains all the way to Orlando and back.

Miami has too many short sighted people in it for a city whose main economy is tourism.

N.P.
11 days ago

That’s a very niche scenario that definitely doesn’t warrant 2000+ parking spaces.

Visitor parking is hardly a thing at any apartment building today and yet they still fill up

Anonymous
11 days ago

“definitely doesn’t warrant 2000+ parking spaces?”

“Visitor parking is hardly a thing at any apartment building today and yet they still fill up?”

Dude, don’t you see you’re tripping over your own feet!

Robin Stan
11 days ago

I think he’s trying to say that the apartments still fill up….

Anonymous
11 days ago

^ these buildings will have 2,007 apartment units combined in them. Each residential unit will have a parking space. Let’s say 600 people that live in these units don’t have vehicles but they get at least a combined 200 visitors a week from other parts of the county or family who drive from out of town. 100 of those visitors from who drive from out of town wants to visit Disney World by taking the Brightline trains. That’s 100 vehicles that will be left behind in a parking space and those owners don’t have to worry about their vehicle being in a visitor parking spot too long.

Now, I’m giving you an estimate of least amounts. Imagine if the figures were higher. There are not too many parking spots proposed for these apartment buildings.

Anonymous
10 days ago

Theres plenty of parking garages all around downtown where out-of-towners could store their car while visiting

Anonymous
9 days ago

^ yeah.. and they cost to!

Anonymous
11 days ago

Okay NP.
The PROPERTY OWNER wants to have these parking spaces for their reasons.
It is THEIR PROPERTY.
Maybe you know something that they do not know.
Maybe you can quickly buy them out with an aggressive offer. Let’s set up an investment fund working on the thesis that commenters know better than professional full -time real estate developers.

“Visitor parking is hardly a thing at any apartment building today and yet they still fill up”
^^^ Let’s leave that proof that 2,000 parking spaces ARE warranted part out of our 2,000 parking spaces are NOT warranted pitch though. It might confuse the smart people.

Danny Tilbury
7 days ago

There are more parking spaces than people!!! it should be like 300 parking spaces

Anonymous
11 days ago

Reduce parking in exchange for more height.

Yet Another Anonymous
11 days ago

Parking garages account for much of the fake height of most miami towers. Most have small square footage.

Azarius
11 days ago

And affordable workforce housing on a percentage of the property

Anonymous
11 days ago

No let builders and the market decide.

Anonymous
11 days ago

Plenty of affordable housing a few Metrorail stops north.

Anonymous
11 days ago

Wow, the county actually having our best interests in mind, a very welcome change that I hope continues!

Anonymous
11 days ago

There was talk that the towers were u/c. Just preliminary site work for infrastructure ?

Anonymous
11 days ago

Insert Jack Nicholson nodding from the Departed gif here

Anonymous
11 days ago

Guys we need less parking due to the proximity of multiple public transit options, can you cut it down a bit?

Sure we’ll go down by 0.005% happy now?

T G
11 days ago

it’s a fair comment. the whole point of a residential tower at a transit hub, is to use said transit hub, and not your car.

Anonymous
11 days ago

By the way Miami, why not ask to redesign the whole thing. In its current form, it’s a monstrosity!

Anonymous
11 days ago

Why don’t you get into the design fray and show us what you got?

Anonymous
11 days ago

Reduce the parking and increase the height of one of the towers, honestly sick of seeing twin developments everywhere. We have enough cereal boxes as it is, developers should at least build towers with some dimension or the skyline will look flat. It’s already happening in Edgewater with Elysee, Aria, and Missoni all next door to each other at the same height…

Anonymous
11 days ago

The two 850-foot towers are planned at MiamiCentral, on property that is arguably the best connected to transit anywhere in Miami. 850 foot tall are NOT SUPERTALL, only by 19th century standards.

Within a block are stations for Brightline trains, Tri-Rail (planned) YEAH RIGHT, Remember they built a train station that does not accommodate TRAINS!!!

Anonymous
11 days ago

Cool, can they ask for better architecture and for the street not to be un-aligned too?

Anonymous
6 days ago

Think you got traffic now? Imagine another 2,000 cars trying to get into downtown.

Lugo
10 days ago

Fuk the government.

Anonymous
10 days ago

Miami-Dade county should take over development planning across the whole county, this is great and it allows for a much more connected Miami-Dade.

Melo is sigma and chad
11 days ago

Reduced it by three spaces, such a sigma move.

Anonymous
11 days ago

Sigma balls

Anonymous
11 days ago

The city planners have to whine about something.