Miami Beach Monorail Developer Increases Cost Estimate To Over $1B, Making It ‘Unaffordable’

The developer of the proposed monorail between Miami and Miami Beach has increased the cost by nearly double to what one county official calls unaffordable, according to the Herald.

The new estimate also makes it comparable in cost to building a Metromover extension on the route.

The design and build cost for the Monorail submitted by the developer was originally estimated in 2020 at $587 million, and is now just over $1 billion.

A study published in 2019 had estimated that both a Metromover extension and a monorail would have each cost around $1 billion. Operating costs on the monorail were estimated to be slightly lower.

In October 2020, Miami-Dade voted to move forward with negotiations to have the private developer build the Monorail system, based in part on the low bid.

Now, the county deputy mayor who oversaw those 2020 negotiations told the Herald that the county could not afford the new pricing.

 

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Anonymous
7 months ago

EXPAND THE METROMOVER!!

Anonymous
7 months ago

Expand the metro rail.

Not Anonymous
7 months ago

expand BOTH

Anonymous
7 months ago

Metrorail is not necessary.

Anonymous
7 months ago

And keep it free!

Anonymous
7 months ago

Nah. You can’t keep it free if you want it expanded. Make it with a fee but make it a great transportation system

Anonymous
7 months ago

Says who? There are other more sizes me public transportation systems that operate with no fees to the users.

Anonymous
7 months ago

*More sizable

Anonymous
7 months ago

just charge until it is paid for

Anonymous
7 months ago

…and this is unaffordable?

Bandit
7 months ago

Of course, as predicted by many transit advocates this boondoggle was a bait and switch by Genting. Can we just get this over with and expand the Metromover to the beach and the design district?

Anonymous
7 months ago

What I don’t understand is how does a totally new system that consist of building an entirely different stop also be comparable to or even little a cheaper than extending a system that’s already in place and have been for a little over thirty years?

Bandit
7 months ago

The Metromover is an incredibly efficient system that has been proven to work, the county has experience of over 30 years in operating, maintaining, and expanding the system. Building a new system simply does not make any sense. Particularly considering that the county is willing to put around $200m in improving the Metromover already:

https://www.thenextmiami.com/metromover-express-service-planned-to-herald-plaza/
https://www.thenextmiami.com/metromover-is-moving-forward-with-a-153m-overhaul-county-says/

The corruption behind this backdoor deal is the only reason that this is being considered, Genting has now pulled the rug. It is not too late for the Mayor and BCC to adopt what the people actually need and want. Expanding the Metromover and Metrorail

Anonymous
7 months ago

Metromover and efficient are two words that don’t belong in the same sentence.

Bryan Riley
7 months ago

The Miami Special “the playbook” strikes again. 1) We can’t afford rail 2) We can afford it but only with the private partner. 3) It’s more expensive now than previous options and doesn’t connect well with existing modes or adds unnecessary connections. You can’t make this up. Time for a new study 🤦🏾‍♂️😂

Anonymous
7 months ago

Heck, a lot of people who comment on this site have a better and more common sense simple solution on how it should be done than the elected officials in this town who make decisions… and these readers don’t even get paid to do it!

Bryan Riley
7 months ago

And don’t even try to get a job at the county in these planning or transit departments. Revolving door of insiders. 4 interview rounds and not even a call back. It’s a joke. Live here long enough and realize what’s behind the sunshine blue sky and palm trees. All nice decorations. The Most important city in the America can’t get a coherent transit plan with so much development and growth. Is there a shortage of a billionaire class that is civic oriented that wants to help build a sustainable future for the city? Great cities were built with the help of those types. I mentioned this before about South Florida. Maybe the multi millionaire and billionaire class doesn’t care about these things because they won’t be here for long. When it becomes unlivable they have other places to go. Thus not worried about transit and sea level rise etc. Let the good times roll. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Anonymous
7 months ago

I blame it all on Henry Flagler. 🤪

Anonymous
7 months ago

That’s right, the rich of these city don’t give a shit as doing the rich in London, Paris, New York.

Anonymous
7 months ago

^ wtf?.. I bet you have a smart phone?

peter jt
7 months ago

it will be 2100 and it will still be understudy.. since I was 9 yrs old in 1999

Anonymous
7 months ago

I’m actually glad to hear this. The metromover extension has always been the best option IMO. Minimal transit hoping is ideal. I also so the monorail deal was going to lead it being more of an asset to Resort World than an actually public transit system. Build the extension before prices for that go up too.

Anonymous
7 months ago

I think the better option is to run a metrorail line to 5th. It’s faster, better connects the county and airport, and is still convenient for downtown and brickell. In regards to Miami beach they will never build above grade transit. Better to run the metro to 5th and build a nice station and then the beach can develop an at grade transit system and have a simple transfer there.

Anonymous
7 months ago

That’s unnecessary and really makes less sense and I’ll tell you why. The MetroRail takes you from the airport and into downtown where you can either get off, transfer to the MetroMover, or stay on and keep riding it into Brickell or into South Miami. By transferring to the MetroMover, you now have the choice of going to different destinations downtown, in Brickell, and hopefully one day Wynwood, the Design District, and Edgewater, or stay on it and ride clean over to Miami Beach and that’s just by transferring one time at Government Center.

Anonymous
7 months ago

Yeah but if you are coming from the Grove and want to go to the beach it’s going to take double the time transferring at govt station and then looping around downtown and stopping at all the mover stations. Metro rail should better connect the county as a whole. Also if it’s a metro line they could make a direct line from the airport that eliminates transfers which is good since you’re most likely visiting with luggage. And to better connect with downturn you can build a transfer station at museum station to connect to the mover.

Bryan Riley
7 months ago

A coherent system would mean Metro Rail is used to connect cities within Miami dade. Metro mover to connect within the city of Miami limits and Tri Rail between Palm, Broward and Dade. But no we can’t have it easy. Lucky we get anything at all.

Anonymous
7 months ago

Look, for anyone coming from the Grove who want to go to Miami Beach, it shouldn’t be our concern about them having to transfer at Government Center from the MetroRail to the MetroMover to do it. Poor babies, it won’t be a fast and convenient mass transit mode for them.. boo hoo. The MetroMover travels from the Government Center, to Miami Central train station, on down 5th st, to NE 2nd ave, loops over by MacArther Causeway, on past Museum Park, over the freeway and past Herald Plaza. Are you saying that simply building a MetroMover extension at the Museum Park stop and onto MacArthur Causeway or even the stop at NE 15th st by the Arienne Arhst Center onto the Venetian Causeway wouldn’t make sense because some people in Coconut Grove might feel that’s not fast enough for them… wtf?

Anonymous
7 months ago

Poor babies also complaining about housing affordability want their free tincan shortbus to take them to overpriced venues in Wynwood and South Beach.

Anonymous
7 months ago

You either sound like ou can’t afford wynwood and south beach or don’t have friends to go out with lol

Anonymous
7 months ago

^ Well, everybody don’t feel like riding a bike back and forth to Miami Beach like you.

Anonymous
7 months ago

Bro you’re fucking retarded 🤣 the grove is simply an example of a place along the existing metro. Substitute the grove with Dadeland, the airport, or Hialeah. You only want this to be convenient for people downtown?

Anonymous
7 months ago

The Metrorail has the capacity and speed to make sense for Miami Beach, and shares the two major stations downtown with Metromover. If transferring at Government Center or Brickell is inconvenient for you, I question how many transit systems you have actually taken.

Anonymous
7 months ago

Metromover will need a century to pass the causeway. Metrorail need to extend in beach and west in FIU.

Anonymous
7 months ago

^ You’ll probably one of the people I whisk by on the Metromover when you’re halted and stuck in traffic in your car on the causeway.

Anonymous
7 months ago

^ *probably be*

Anonymous
7 months ago

The problem with Metrorail to Miami Beach is that its infrastructure is too big for the Beach. The stations are approximately 500ft long, which is just out of scale with the Beach’s 100ft long east-west blocks.
Picture NW 12th Ave at the Civic Center station and try to see how that would look sitting along 5th St or north-south along Washington Ave on the Beach. Or worse, the Orange Line terminal at MIA sitting at Washington & 5th.

Anonymous
7 months ago

^ Geeze some of these people who come this site don’t read. The residents on Miami Beach already voted and said they don’t want a Metrorail system over there because it’s too big and noisy.

Anonymous
7 months ago

Why it takes forever to build anything?! They should have expanded the Metromover twenty years ago to the Design District and Miami Beach!

Anonymous
7 months ago

Look, they gave us free trolleys, buses, and pay for express lanes on I-95.. what more do you want?!

Anonymous
7 months ago

” What more do you want?” Mass Rail expansion like we’ve been asking for, that they promised us…and should have actually built 20 years ago. Your little buses and express lanes are pathetic half-assed efforts which have done fuck all to fix the situation.

Anonymous
7 months ago

Metromover!

Anonymous
7 months ago

Why can’t we just expand the Metromover to the beach and inside Miami Beach, as well as within Miami? Make it with a fee, it doesn’t need to be free of it covers all of Miami!

Anonymous
7 months ago

It originally had a fare, they made it free because enforcing the fare cost more than the fare generated

Anonymous
7 months ago

Imagine using that logic for bridges and everything else. Makes no sense

Anonymous
7 months ago

Yep.. placing the cost on the backs of the taxpayers to maintain that system is more convenient.

Anonymous
7 months ago

I think they should charge tourists a fare, and provide residents with a transit pass to ride it free of charge or for a reduced fare.

Anonymous
7 months ago

lol

Mike
7 months ago

Including the residents who sleep, stink up, piss on, and destroy the comfort and aesthetic of the cars?

Anonymous
7 months ago

Gee, you must ride on the Metromover a lot to know that?

Anonymous
7 months ago

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Anonymous
7 months ago

I wanted a Metrorail expansion twenty years ago, and all I got was the same career politicians pocketing the penny tax.

Anonymous
7 months ago

Lol

Anonymous
7 months ago

Didn’t we read less than a week ago that Miami was the most IMPORTANT city in the country?

Anonymous
7 months ago

It is but apparently our officials don’t think public transportation is important…

Anonymous
7 months ago

GOOD NOW CANCEL IT. I want the whole project shut down and forgotten about lol. It would make way too much sense to capitalize off the Metrorail that’s *already in place* by extending lines from Government Center in each direction.

Anonymous
7 months ago

Well if you read the majority of these comments, it makes more sense to extend a free system with maximum speeds of 30 miles an hour with less capacity than the MIA Mover to a major population center across the bay.

Anonymous
7 months ago

Stop complaining about a Metromover expansion and use your money to build exactly the mass transit system you think the people of Miami should have.

Anonymous
7 months ago

what a joke

Anonymous
7 months ago

Why have a 3rd mode just expand the rail or the mover. It’s not rocket science.

Anonymous
7 months ago

What happened to Biden’s infrastructure dough ? Take 10 percent out of the big guy to build the metro mover

Not Anonymous
7 months ago

Too late for that….

Anonymous
7 months ago

I’m think the state gets to dish it out. Thus north and central fl. will get the lion’s share.

Anonymous
7 months ago

North and Central Florida will actually spend it on infrastructure, while Miami will spend it on renaming parks to nobodys who don’t deserve it and repaving roads again after five years.

Anonymous
7 months ago

Did they expect anything else?

Anonymous
7 months ago

whenever i read about miami and its pathetic mass transit and see its never going to move forward under these elected do nothings im actually amazed it has electricity

Anonymous
7 months ago

Heck, it’s more amazing to think that the mass transit you now see today was built over three decades ago!

Anonymous
7 months ago

Three decades and it’s falling apart, while the NYC subway is over 100 and had more years of abuse than three decades.

Anonymous
7 months ago

Um.. what’s falling apart?

Anonymous
7 months ago

If you think the NYC Subway is the apex of public transit, yikes. Yes, that barely functioning infrastructure is 3x older, and it definitely looks like it. I’ve never seen a Metrorail or Metromover station growing alien life from decades-long leaks dripping along the wall…

Anonymous
7 months ago

Well Metromover does have the tenancy to stop right over the Miami River. Expect more with the Green New Deal and SHORE POWER.

Anonymous
7 months ago

You really must do a lot of Metromover watching?..

Anonymous
7 months ago

lo barato sale caro

Not Anonymous
7 months ago

What a surprise! NO ONE saw this coming! 😉😑

Anonymous
7 months ago

This what happens went you drag your feet and wait years to do something. It only becomes more expensive not cheaper to build.. had this been done 10-15 years ago it would have been cheaper an right on time for all the growth Miami has seen. Now it’s more expensive and has been an explosion in growth with bad infrastructure an transit. Now it will take another 6-8 years to figure this out get funds and finish building it. Meanwhile Miami continues to grow every month an traffic is getting worse!!!!

peter jt
7 months ago

this city will continue to grow massively and pretend to be first class with no transportation that’s viable. for use.

Azarius
7 months ago

Wow lol can’t afford real investment in a old system, sounds like Miami

Anonymous
7 months ago

There is nothing wrong with the MetroMover system.. we just see clueless people who don’t know what to do with it and how to expand it.

Anonymous
7 months ago

It’s un-expandable is its current state. You will have to get a new rolling stock with longer cars and rebuild the stations so they fit, something Miami has a poor track record of.

Anonymous
7 months ago

So more cars wouldn’t solve the problem?

Stop thinking that it takes a yacht to get to the other side of a swimming pool.

Azarius
7 months ago

You can’t build no real infrastructure under a billion lol and INFLATION!!!

Anonymous
7 months ago

We could have told you this.

Anonymous
7 months ago

Next news about Genting is that they have sold herald property….the monorail thing falling apart means behind the scenes sale probably is near

Anonymous
7 months ago

It’ll be a minor miracle if Genting itself survives another few years.

Anonymous
7 months ago

Expand Metrorail and Metromover, as you (politicians/county and city government “leaders”) promised to do years and years ago. County voters approved a tax hike many years ago, based on the commitment that exactly this would happen. Stop screwing around with third, fourth and fifth disconnected transportation platforms and expand the systems which have the infrastructure already in place. Really, this is not that hard to figure out.

Anonymous
7 months ago

That’s strange… because the lease agreement from 2018 for the carpetbagger who has been squatting on Watson Island remains the same in 2022 !!! ????

Anonymous
7 months ago

Cars ruins this beautiful city. I think the local politicians don’t gave the skills to solve the problems which face one city who grows so fast.

Anonymous
7 months ago

yeah and metromover tracks are so freaking gorgeous, get real

Anonymous
7 months ago

The Metromover tracks you see means Miami is progressing, not staying still.

Anonymous
7 months ago

If they make thing complicated they can drown more money in the project with their friends.
How many busses can you buy for 1 billion dollars?
People running Miami transit should take trip to Madrid or Prague and learn how to run efficient public transport.

Just coming from the airport to Miami Beach could be one route of bus. But you need to take the train to the car rental location of the airport and then wait downstairs in the heat for the bus.
Why can’t there be nice quality busses at the airport?
I don’t understand why we need any of this complications that will cost us so much money.

Same with the Convention Center in Miami Beach. First they made a competition for a winning design. After the winning company was refused the project (thanks to certain hotelier complaining that hotel attached to the Convention Center would take profits from the existing hotels) So the hotel part was scrapped.
After years of construction and rebuilding the convention center suddenly they realized that Miami Beach can’t compete with other Conventions who have hotel at the convention center.
So now after all was finished they pushed down our throats a Convention Center Hotel.
And the contract was given to the guy (hotelier) that opposed the hotel to be build to begin with.
City can’t make the right decision if it can have friends make money…

Robert
7 months ago

Why I’m not surprised!

Anonymous
7 months ago

Great news!!! Hopefully, our non-leaders politicians can seize the opportunity and do something that actually works for us and the visitors to our cities.

Ya tu sabes
7 months ago

Thank god, Metromover all the way.