Miami Beach Set To Consider Underground Transportation Tunnels

Miami Beach planners could be directed to study the possibility of building underground tunnels to help alleviate traffic in the city, according to an item on the July 28 city commission agenda.

The city would join several other local governments considering building underground.

Fort Lauderdale, Miami, and Miami-Dade County are also now either studying or negotiating for an underground transportation system.

Fort Lauderdale is already said to have a proposal from Elon Musk’s The Boring Company for a low-cost tunnel to the beach from downtown.

Miami’s mayor is said to have received a verbal offer for a Brickell-Downtown tunnel, at a similar low cost.

According to a memorandum from Commissioner Steven Meiner, the city needs to rethink the way it approaches transportation as more people continue to migrate here.

Commissioners would vote to direct the Neighborhood and Quality of Life Committee to discuss whether tunnels are feasible.

 

Here is the full text of Meiner’s memo:

As more people are migrating to South Florida, we need to rethink the way we approach transportation. One trending concept is the use of underground tunnels to alleviate surface-level traffic congestion. Other cities are following suit, such as the City of Fort Lauderdale recently opening an RFP to construct underground mobility infrastructure. The specific purpose of this discussion is to explore the feasibility of underground mobility infrastructure in Miami Beach.

 

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Anonymous
5 months ago

Our politicians will literally do everything but build an actually useful mass transit system

Karl Isen
5 months ago

Consider making the tunnel larger for an Urban Maglev solution. As estimated, the EV Car tunnel solution was billed at about $10M per linear mile but is limited in capacity due to its size and configuration. If a larger tunnel is considered and with venting capabilities and realized in the $50M per mile range with the added Urban Maglev (3 train cars) that is in the $40M per linear mile (fabrication and assembly), that is still cheaper than the $150m per linear mile that was proposed for the latest Beach corridor monorail system which is an antiquated and high maintenace technology compared the enegy efficient and practically maintence free and proven Urban Maglev technology. Furthermore, the Boring solution is self serving to Elon Musk’s interest as Tesla would then be contracted to provide auoimated EV cars.

KC Jones
5 months ago

Maglev is the most energy efficient mode in the world and can also transport more people per hour faster than any ground transport. Urban maglev in China can hit speeds of 80 mph. Imagine that applied to Miami Dade? The electricity can be stored from solar power, an abundant source in South FLORIDA, applied for maglev and not rely on the power grid. If the boring of tunnels are in the $50 million per linear mile and urban maglev can be manufactured and assembled for $40 million a linear mile, that makes urban maglev 1/3 to 1/2 less expensive than elevated monorail and elevated heavy rail.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Expanding the diameter expands the cost exponentially…not arithmetically. That is the point of the smaller tunnels. They are cheap.

Erasmus
5 months ago

Small diameter benefits Elon Musk. A hole for a holes sake shouldn’t be the solution. The solution needs to holistically address Miami Dade’s mobility problem to benefit the needs of of the county that lacks effective transportation solutions.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Exponential is a mathematical term, meaning “involving an exponent.” When you raise a number to the tenth power, for example, that’s an exponential increase in that number.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Where ever the entrance and exit of the tunnels are going to generate traffic. Might has well have a metromover extension with three cars on it to get victors taking it and no renting cars or getting lyfts. People fail to realize how much traffic ride share creates, sometimes they have to stop on a one land street and sometimes they have to circle around trying to find someone and sometimes they have to bust a u turn.

Anonymous
5 months ago

you are so correct…ride shares are a huge burden on traffic flow..

Anonymous
5 months ago

Three Metromover cars aren’t enough, and anything greater will require longer stations, so bigger cars will be needed and will ultimately be a complete system change to the extent that it would be cheaper to have another system… or use Metrorail as originally intended going from Government Center Station via the unused east-west platform.

Anonymous
5 months ago

“Three Metromover cars aren’t enough”

You see, he looked into his crystal ball and it told him what that scenario would look and be like.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Dimwits. You can’t “alleviate traffic” by creating new capacity.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Waste of money. Don’t be stupid

Anonymous
5 months ago

Yes! Built those tunnels and put a subway system in it!

Anonymous
5 months ago

Boring company refuses to make tunnels for subways sadly. Only narrow tunnels that can fit a Tesla in it, it’s such a racket…

NYC Transplant
5 months ago

Hard to see how that’s going to help with the Brickell-Downtown situation. It’s really unacceptable, though, having the drawbridge constantly going up and down, even during rush hours. There would need to be multiple tunnels in each direction and traversing deeply into Brickell and north into downtown to create an effective bypass system, more like the long on/off ramps that major river crossings usually have. The Brooklyn Bridge, for example terminates in the middle of Lower Manhattan, literally have way across the land mass.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Or a sled that can fit nearly any existing car.

Paul
5 months ago

Build two tunnels, one from the Brightline station to the design district and another from Mt Sinai to South Pointe Park then build a Metrorail line from the Overtown station to the Design District, across the Tuttle, and down to South Beach. That one line would have as many passengers as the existing Metrorail system and more.

Mr. Culo
5 months ago

Waste Waste Waste. Build light or heavy rail already.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Please, make this stop!

Anonymous
5 months ago

It’s like holding onto a baby that’s trying to break out your arms to get to the shiny trinket that has it hypnotized.

Anonymous
5 months ago

I did

Anonymous
5 months ago

“The specific purpose of this discussion is to explore the feasibility of underground mobility infrastructure in Miami Beach”

They should’ve actually said:

We know you’re doing mental gymnastics in trying to figure out what can be done with the awful flooding that goes on in Miami Beach because of global warming but we think Miami Beach should really ignore all that and jump on board with this scam I mean program to alleviate the traffic problem you have.

– Elon Musk

Anonymous
5 months ago

as more people move here we need to study tunnels…!!!!….omg….i cant help but laugh to keep from crying

Anonymous
5 months ago

That’s just like the idea of alleviating traffic on Biscayne Blvd downtown by eliminating one or two lanes each way. You can’t do anything but scratch your head about that plan.

Anonymous
5 months ago

They should actually cut lanes on Biscayne Blvd and they should add speed bumps along with better times traffic lights. It’s not a freaking highway!

NYC Transplant
5 months ago

Nor is it a dragstrip, but quite a few people don’t seem to have gotten that message.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Road diet, which will naturally calm traffic, yes. Speed bumps, no. This isn’t a tract housing development in Miami Lakes. How will it affect those precious bike lanes, too?

Anonymous
5 months ago

They should add lanes, raise the speed limit, and shut down Metromover. The needs of thousands of drivers per day going to jobs trumps the dreams of free riding bums and community college kids.

Anonymous
5 months ago

miami beach can’t even keep water from rising above the streets. how do they expect to build a tunnel under them?

Anonymous
5 months ago

Maybe submarines will go through them. Electric submarines, of course

Anonymous
5 months ago

What would happen is the power goes off? Or somebody breaks down? Would we have a giant pile of wreckage and carnage? I for one would never go down there.

Anonymous
5 months ago

SMH

William
5 months ago

Just extend the Metromover all the way to the convention center.

Anonymous
5 months ago

And all the way inside Miami Beach

Anonymous
5 months ago

Nope, nope, nope.. that makes too much sense…

Anonymous
5 months ago

Genting will do that more efficiently with a higher-capacity, faster monorail, but I assume you’ll bitch about another form of transit, as if you’ve never been to a major city where you have to transfer.

Tom
5 months ago

If boring company can do it for there cheap price do it!!!!! Oh have the deal contingent on Ft Lauderdale’s. Outcome

Anonymous
5 months ago

Go Musk!!

Anonymous
5 months ago

Yeah.. go hock your wears someplace else.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Lol it will never happen! We have to many issues already on the ground level with floodings!

John the bandit
5 months ago

A link between downtown Miami and Miami Beach is important. And if it links with metro mover or the metro rail in downtown Miami it would be brilliant. Do it get it done.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Politicians = Dimwits

Anonymous
5 months ago

Does anyone know someone who offers tennis lessons under $50 an hour?

Anonymous
5 months ago

“Does anyone know someone who offers tennis lessons under $50 an hour?”
Excellent question.
Yes.

Jeremy
5 months ago

Elon musk shit tunnel not gonna fix any traffic struggle..
Las Vegas is the world stupid tunnel ever did

Anonymous
5 months ago

Strong english make smart.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Right kingmosabee!

– Tonto

Realtalk Reilly
5 months ago

Traffic isn’t THAT bad on the Beach. If they have the technology to create an elaborate tunnel system they should use it to redistribute flood water from these King Tides that keep getting higher and higher.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Serious question: do the King Tides really keep getting higher and higher?

Or is the barrier island sinking in the select places (Sunset Harbour, Bay Road, West & 10th) where the fill dirt was added and mangroves were removed?

Seems to me that the King Tides are about the same as they were 25 years ago.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Most of us here will be dead or senile by the time these things are operational.

Anonymous
5 months ago

I thought we couldn’t build tunnels or subways down here? Something about the sea level and water table? Isn’t that why we have the ugly ass metrorail and metromover?

I like mass transit
5 months ago

how can we have this, yet not a subway system?

Anonymous
14 days ago

I was just trying to explain to some people how if the clusterf*#ck at the Las Vegas tunnels were really caused by scamming useless toy for rich people then there would certainly be a Miami Tunnel in the works, and here we are.

Anonymous
5 months ago

So we are supposed to envy everything Europe does except well engineered transportation systems? Tunnels work there. For all means of transport.

Cynicism makes people dumb.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Who said we’re supposed to envy Europe? There’s good reason why so many left Europe to build America.

Anonymous
5 months ago

^ Lol… revisionist history.

Anonymous
5 months ago

How is that revisionist when you use the same argument for non-Europeans as beneficial, who tend to build nothing, rather leech and destroy?

Anonymous
5 months ago

^^^^Lol real history you woketard

Anonymous
5 months ago

^ Haha!.. two Trump University graduates….

Anonymous
5 months ago

If it was an actually university rather than an online seminar, it’s still worth more than your women’s studies degree from MDC.

Anonymous
5 months ago

^ lol.. another sucker who sent Trump money to build his border wall.

Shawn Kouri
5 months ago

Now Miami Beach is getting into this idea of having a boring company tunnel Built by Elon Musk too??? Wowwwww

Anonymous
5 months ago

This will be down voted by all the newbies, but glad the city realizes that ppl in SFL prefer to DRIVE then use public transit and are thus EXPLORING ways to alleviate traffic.

Anonymous
5 months ago

yes i know its than not then lol

Anonymous
5 months ago

“alleviate traffic” aka, widen + build more roads/capacity is akin to loosening your belt to cure obesity.

Anonymous
5 months ago

to use your analogy.. if you’re obese and like to eat, instead of not eating, just eat healthier and workout. You don’t have to stop eating all together.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Last thing miami beach needs is more people our sewers are leaking and overburdened the bay is dying fro all the poop

Anonymous
5 months ago

And your sentence need commas and periods.

Anonymous
5 months ago

We prefer to drive because we don’t know better.

Anonymous
5 months ago

The buses in Miami Beach are full of dangerous people

Anonymous
5 months ago

I see that doesn’t stop you from catching the bus over there to party though?

Mr. Culo
5 months ago

People in SFL drive because there isn’t another option.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Exactly! Meagerly doing a Metrorail and Metromover is just asking a little something to do a very large amount.

Anonymous
5 months ago

“People in SFL drive because there isn’t another option.”
Personally, I drive because it is 100x’s more practical then the other options. There are a dozen or more options, but driving is the one that I chose.

Anonymous
5 months ago

The 8 Metromoversexuals who haunt this board are:
1) too lazy to drive themselves anywhere. They’re used to avocado toast being delivered to their door.
2) want someone else (like the property owners they rent from) to pay for their transportation needs. Buying a car is too much like adulting.

People in India and China are turning to cars in droves, by the 100s of millions. We got 1st world problems here in South Florida.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Entitled drivers are obsessed with having their roads and gasoline subsidized

Anonymous
5 months ago

No public transit is dangerous
Read the news

Anonymous
5 months ago

have you seen cars? people die every day in them.

Salty Cat
5 months ago

Indeed, not having public transportation is dangerous.

Anonymous
5 months ago

^^^^subsidized by taxes drivers pay, as opposed to free Metromover and free bus passes born by property taxes paid by homeowners who mostly don’t set foot on public transit.

Salty Cat
5 months ago

Gas taxes don’t cover the road building an maintenance bill, bub.

Anonymous
5 months ago

where did my post say the word GAS taxes, bub? It doesn’t. You’re a dim bulb.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Ha ha.. another clueless buffoon making derogatory remarks about a system (aka the Metromover) that was built probably before he/she was born or in diapers. The Metromover is a system that already exist and either improve on it or get out the way and let someone show you how to do it. The countries of India and China each have over one billion people and South Florida don’t even come close to that so cut it out with the comparison.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Except the MetroMOVER was built with the purpose of serving limited area it loops, not an entire region, which is the point of MetroRAIL. You just don’t like it because you would have to pay to ride.

Anonymous
5 months ago

You’re the clueless buffoon I saw Metromover being built back in 1987 while you were nothing more than a gleam in some coconut humpers eye on the 3rd island south of Key West. Get a job and a car, loser.

Anonymous
5 months ago

watch people who know what to do along the route the Metromover now run and see how they create more development and extend the Metromover to it

Anonymous
5 months ago

I like this as I don’t believe public transportation is an answer for us. The metro mover is light years ahead of places like Chicago’s CTA. The CTA is always packed, yet no one rides the quiet and smooth metromover. The same goes with NYC. There’s no way more public transportation resolves our issues.

Anonymous
5 months ago

” The CTA is always packed, yet no one rides the quiet and smooth metromover”

Don’t complain about the Metromover when for years and years we saw nothing to go to near them. The MELO Group is trying to do their part concerning that along with a few other developers but until all those empty lots we now see get developed, you won’t see the true potential of the Metromover.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Miami metro mover is dangerous and full of crazy people

Anonymous
5 months ago

So are many of the drivers in Miami, but I bet that don’t stop you from getting in your car and driving somewhere in the city.

Anonymous
5 months ago

No. But when I drive in my car, I don’t have to listen to other people’s music, conversations, or be subjected to fragrant waft of L’eau de Urine.

Anonymous
5 months ago

^ Nah.. but you better watch out for the light runners, turn signal ignoring, U-turn making, race car speeding, and bus ignoring people. And I didn’t even mention the bike and scooter riders.

Those are just some of the things you must constantly be aware of when driving a car in Miami.

Anonymous
5 months ago

Did you read the post? The post was complementing the smooth and quiet metromover – the opposite of Chicago’s public transportation.

Anonymous
5 months ago

A dinky, gimmicky shortbus with rubber wheels built only to serve Greater Downtown Miami is light years ahead of a 100-year-old heavy rail system of over 200 miles of track? How cute.

Anonymous
5 months ago

“A dinky, gimmicky shortbus with rubber wheels ”

No one is begging you to ride in it Mr Mercedes Benz driver…