Miami-Dade Votes To Open Bidding For Baylink Mass Transit Project Between Miami Beach & Mainland, Decision In Six Months

Miami-Dade commissioners voted yesterday to commence the bidding process for the Miami to Miami Beach mass transit project, according to the Herald.

A decision is expected in the spring of 2020, after a six month bidding process.

Genting will be allowed to compete in the bidding, after jump-starting the process by submitting an unsolicited proposal earlier this year.

Trains manufactured in China will not be permitted. However, a July letter from Genting stated that its partner is BYD North America, which is Buy USA compliant (it isn’t clear if this will be acceptable to the county.) BYD trades on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange, is majority owned by U.S. shareholders., and has bus manufacturing facilities in the U.S.

Proposals will be accepted for an at grade bus system, as well as a Metromover extension, monorail or light rail. Bus is almost certain to come in cheapest, giving it an advantage in the final rankings.

Yet another major transit line will also be put out for bidding soon. The North Corridor, which could eventually connect to Fort Lauderdale, will be ready for bidding as soon as October, Mayor Carlos Gimenez said.

 

 

The July letter stating that BYD is Buy America compliant:

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Anonymous

Whatever is built it must have connectivity at both sides. Merely landing on the Beach and the mainland isn’t enough and would be a failed project.

Anonymous

It will fail if it shares traffic lanes. It has to be off the grid otherwise it just becomes part of the problem.

Will

Yes 100%. Metromover with new, faster vehicles would be ideal although I have zero faith in govt to do the right thing.

Anonymous

Will, you took the words out of my mouth. I just don’t get it, the Metromover has been around since the 1980s. They work just fine and best of all they do not interfere with cars or traffic. They go all around Brickell and Downtown. All you have to do is expand it East to South Beach and North up to Midtown. How difficult is that? just build the ramps. This could all be done in less than 2 years. But you are right I too have zero faith in our Government.

Anonymous

The fact it only goes around Greater Downtown Miami and hasn’t been expanded is because it serves it’s purpose as a low-speed and capacity, free service, which would have to be retrofitted into a proper APC system for a Miami Beach route, which would cost as much as just expanding Metrorail anyway.

Anonymous

Extended metromover Due West from 14th Street and you can be right in the center of the hospital District. I’ve never understood why transportation officials don’t consider expansion of the metromover

Flymia

Metromover is the only thing Miami-Dade has ever done right in public transit.

Anonymous

The funds will be approved in 2021-22 as part of the next Democratic president’s stimulus plan to help recover the economy after the next recession.

Anonymous

They’ll still be required to do an environmental impact assessment for federal funds and will cheap out, just like they did with Baylink.

Anonymous

Wishful and stupid thinking. Shows how much you understand the economy and how stupidly blinded and biased you are.

Anonymous

nice to be rude to other people huh

Anonymous

Nah, shore power is more up the alley of the pathetic opposition’s “shovel-ready” projects a la New Green Deal.

Anonymous

What recession ?

Anonymous

Jesus Christ! No buses!

transplant

“Bus is almost certain to come in cheapest, giving it an advantage in the final rankings.”
One-sided statement. It would also be the least convenient.

Extending the Metromover over McCarthur and into South Beach is easy common sense decision I think. Then extend the Metrorail over the Brightline tracks for commuter stops all the way up to Aventura and Gulfstream Park.

Would be great to day drink in Wynwood/Brickell and take a 10-15 minute train to watch the ponies a bit north.

Anon

Metromover over FECR Right of Way is an interesting idea. the problem would be that FEC still uses that as commercial rail, so large (tall) items are shipped on these tracks, so would be hard to run the Metromover at a reasonable elevation. still, it’s an original thought and should be looked into.

Anonymous

let’s just build the metromover underground?

Anonymous

There are a few places where Metrorail crosses over CSX lines and the metromover goes over the FEC line that goes to the port so its doable.

Anonymous

Common sense would be extending Metrorail over the FEC freight spur to the port, and then merge with the MacArthur on Watson Island into South Beach. A lot is already on FEC R-O-Ws, so it has been done before.

Also, it’s about sixteen miles from Wynwood to Gulfstream Park, which would take half an hour at thirty miles an hour on the Metromover, notwithstanding stops. Even in rush hour, it’s a ten-minute difference at most. Coastal Link is faster and a hell of a lot less money than putting viaducts above tracks just expanded.

Anonymous

The big problem with that is if the Metrorail is going to go from Dodge to Watson it would either have to go really high up or in a tunnel to not obstruct cruise ships, both of which would be extremely costly and difficult to pull off

Anonymous

Lets make sure connectivity is key and that all our systems are running together efficiently!

Anonymous

HOW ARE BUSSES EVEN A OPTION??? ARE YOU SERIOUS??? ADDING MORE BUSSES WILL CAUSE THE SAME PROBLEMS AND DELAYS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW!!! THE LEADERS IN THIS COUNTY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE DOING WHAT SO EVER!! WHEN WILL THIS CITY HAVE REAL LEADERS??

Anonymous

Not if you take an existing lane in both directions and put up a partition like on the express lanes of 95 and make it dedicated to bus only. When you’re stuck in your car on the MacArthur and see a bus flying by every 3 minutes, you’ll second think getting in your car next time. BRT works, but only when done right.

Anonymous

except if they do put up these partitions, the useless government will probably make them express lanes too, and now the traffic will just be worse on both express and non express sides, buses will be empty, and people will be paying 10 dollars to save themselves 5 minutes of time, just like on i95.

karzai

exactly. I have no clue why buses are under consideration at all for this. Either do something right or don’t do anything.

Anonymous

I usually hate people who write in all caps but in this case you get a pass.

Anonymous

Gondola skyride over the MacArthur !!!!

Anonymous

Have we all just given up on Metrorail at this point? I understand that there will be some environmental impact, and right of way issues, but it’s just the right way to connect the two cities.

Metromover is not appropriate for the distance or the volume, but it seems like the best we can hope for.

Anonymous

Agreed metromover isn’t the best mode, however, who has faith in the County do properly expand metrorail? How much of the half penny tax dollars were diverted from expansion to operations and maintenance? How many linear miles were we promised to have by now? Everyday we don’t expand, it gets more expensive to do so in the future. The ship has sailed on metrorail (would argue for metromover too).

Anonymous

what if we retrofit the whole metromover system. Its almost 40 years old. They could add new tracks that are similar to monorail. Then the new cars could go twice as fast. Then extend it to SoBe.

Anonymous

With 14,000 daily bus riders between Miami Beach & Miami the most efficient option would be MetroRail. To the county commission I say stop trying to reinvent the wheel & just bite the bullet already. This is a no brainer!

Anonymous

NO BUSES NO BUSES NO BUSES NO BUSES NO BUSES. why do our politicians have such a hard time understanding that? Do they have a magical way to avoid traffic? they must suffer in it too.. I just don’t get it.

POLO

“Trains manufactured in China will not be permitted”? What next, all Walmart stores are going to close? Anyway, the winning bit is AN AT GRADE BUS SYSTEM!!!

Anonymous

Buses don’t require new guideways. Express buses could run every 3 minutes on Alton and Washington each, then connect with Metromover, Metrorail, and Virgin trains on the mainland plus some go up to Midtown and others down to Brickell.
That would give capacity to take 1000’s of cars per hour off the streets.
And it’ll never work because most people in Miami-Dade would rather eat dirt than ride a bus.

karzai

heck yeah. either build a light rail or monorail, or forget it. no buses.

Anonymous

No, it’ll never work because most people in Miami-Dade would rather take their car if they are going to be in any mode of transport that sits in the same traffic as regular traffic. THAT’S why it either needs to be built with its own separate guide-way… or not at all.

No half-assing it, or it’s just another waste of money!

Anonymous

Why the metromover hate? To me, it’s the only good option. It won’t be that slow considering there will not be any (or very few) stops on the bridge. Then, stops should be installed all over SoBe (ala Brickell) and expand it on this side of the Bay. This would make Miami one of the most tourist friendly places in the universe. Goooooo

Flymia

Exactly. Metromover is not that slow, they can go up to 31mph, and it is by far the best option to expand in and around Miami Beach. Building another line with another form of transit is just dumb. Something only Miami-Dade would do.

FartAcrossTheBay

NONE OF THESE!!! OBVIOUSLY THE COUNTY SHOULD BUY ME ROLLER BLADES, PUT PEOPLE ON MY SHOULDERS, AND LET MY MASSIVE FARTS PROPEL ME ACROSS THE BAY CAUSE I COULD WEAVE BETWEEN THE CARS!! THIS ISNT HARD WHY CANT WE HAVE SMART LEADERS IN MIAMI?!?!?!!!!!!¡¡¡¡

Anonymous

It’s all that arroz congri that’ll power you my dude

Anonymous

dale!

Flymia

This is such a dumb move. You need actual real expansion of mass transit, not some random link. So what someone from the airport will need to go Metrorail to Gov Center, Metromover to Omini and then Monorail to Miami Beach? Its a mess. It is a “look good project” so the politicians can make it seem like they are actually doing something.

Comprehensive transit reform includes a link to Miami Beach, but not an outside unconnected link.

Anonymous

It will be busses at the end with paid Abuelito Health Clinic signs on the side of it..

Anonymous

Extending Metromover is silly, unless you add capacity to the trains and add seats. Who is going to want to stand on a jolting train for 30 minutes?

Anonymous

For real, they haven’t even added cars to the Brickell route and we see how dense Brickell is now… fuhgedaboudit

Flymia

30-mins? It goes 30mph for a 3-mile ride. They should upgrade mover with larger and more efficient trains.

Anonymous

Just install Ferris wheels on both sides and have them roll across the cause way

Opinionated!!

No Buses! The reality is buses don’t work! The buses don’t work because they get stuck in traffic! They need to build a metro rail that connects Miami to Miami Beach to Kendall and to the rest of the entire city so that everyone that needs to get from point A to point B can do so in a simple easy thing tap your card and go! Emphasis on go because in rush hour would buses don’t do in Miami Beach is go they sit and sit and sit because there is no way to go because of all the traffic!!! People do not want to ride the buses!!! The buses take too long!!! The metromover connecting all around is a horrible idea! And faces on horrible the metromover is free all the homeless use it as a place to sit down and go to sleep and use it as a public toilets! And fixes are used as a public toilet other people don’t want to ride the metromover! The city of Miami and Miami Beach need Metrorail and they need it now now now!!!

Anonymous

I seriously don’t know why it is so difficult for these people in our government to not see this through, the metro mover works, it WORKS, just extended, charge for it.

Anonymous

Lets revamp the whole metromover system. Put faster cars that carry more people. Then extend it to Miami Beach.

Anonymous

So, metrorail?