Miami Loop Study: Electric Vehicles Would Run In Tunnel Network Beneath The City

A network of tunnels underneath Miami could be for electric vehicles and generate high demand, a study by a city consultant showed.

Global engineering firm WSP completed the $40,000 study for the city earlier this year. The study documents were recently released by the city.

Up to six segments could be built, totaling up to 29 miles.

The electric vehicles running in the tunnels are anticipated to be electric seven person vehicles, or potentially electric twelve person passenger vans.

Stations would be spaced approximately 1 mile apart, adjusted as needed for important activity areas or connections. Each station would have one vehicle charging station.

There would be two tunnels running in each direction for each segment, with vehicles travelling at 40 miles per hour between stations and at 10 miles per hour at each station.

Routes from Brightline’s MiamiCentral to MIA and Wynwood to MIA are estimated to generate the highest passenger volume.

 

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Anon
2 months ago

My brother in Christ, just expand the mover and metro rail

james
2 months ago

please

Anonymous
2 months ago

Sorry, that makes too much sense.

Lenny
2 months ago

At what cost?

Anonymous
2 months ago

Politicians will literally do everything expect just build a damn train

Anonymous
2 months ago

“concentrate on the picture you see with electric cars traveling back and forth, back and forth throughout downtown, Brickell, and a few other parts of Miami in a tunnel… now you’re getting sleepy, sleepyyy… now you’re asleep…. ”

lol…

anonymous
2 months ago

another wasted 40k on study that leads to nothing. Frankly, i question the intelligence of the residents of miami because we can complain all we want about what the politicians do but ultimately people keep electing lunatics like crazy Joe Corrollo

Anonymous
2 months ago

Expand Metrorail north, east, west, and south and stop doing studies that in the long run will not be tangible!

Conno Sir
2 months ago

YAWWWWWN!
What a waste of time and money.

Anonymous
2 months ago

We are literally begging for a crumb of actual transit infrastructure. This almost feels like a corrupt slap in the face considering how subpar transit services in Miami are. Metrorail services were just cut. The county is trying to push a fragmented system with like 5 modes of transit. Why can’t this layout be implemented using the technology we ALREADY HAVE??? The future of mobility in the city just seems really pathetic with what’s currently on the table when it could be so much greater.

Conno Sir
2 months ago

Not only has Metrorail been reduced in frequency but because of staff shortages the bus regularity is horrible. You can’t rely on public transportation for anything. And yet we are contemplating another system? I thought we tried to build on what we have by expand and improve first, rather than waste money on a more expensive system. It’s obvious Miami is definitely on a LOST battle with transportation.

Downtown Blue Voter
2 months ago

That’s what we get for keeping ignoring our local elections.

Anonymous
2 months ago

Expect the other side is worse when they promise quality transit but would rather talk about pronouns.

pork rinds
2 months ago

remember the funding and plans for both metromover and metrorail came under the carter administration…wont happen under the republicans who are bribed up to their necks in big oil money….follow their money and dont worry about peoples pronouns

Ming
2 months ago

Metrorail is for poor people, but this will be only for those who can afford brand new electric vehicles.
Everyone knows that there’s no money to be made in public transportation. The money is in roadways for the wealthy, so they can avoid being stuck in traffic with all these poor people and their used cars.

Anon
2 months ago

No one needs to buy a an electric vehicle, they will already be in the tunnels

Anonymous
2 months ago

That little tidbit went way over his head.

Anonymous
2 months ago

“Metrorail is for poor people, but this will be only for those who can afford brand new electric vehicles”

Really? That means that those people living in Miami wouldn’t mind paying for this underground system all by themselves.

Lenny
2 months ago

Who is we?

The Miami Association of Blog Commenters?

It isn’t unanimous.

There are some commenters here who voted AGAINST the 1/2 sales tax…reasoning that the Govt would raid the coffers, and that Bureaucrats are not rewarded for lowering costs, or creating efficiency.

If leasing subterranean land rights, stairs down instead stairs up to platforms, is 1/10th the cost, in all for it.

$40,000 is a cheap study…
It would be great if it the entire project could be private, or at least a deal structure similar to the PortMiami Tunnel.

Antennae
2 months ago

This is so ridiculous I don’t even bother reading it. Ultimately, I know it’s not going to happen anyway.

Westchester Kid
2 months ago

Skipped right through it to the comment section.

Se me paró
2 months ago

Ditto

Anonymous
2 months ago

Instead of doing something simple like extending and already up an running Metromover, we just keep getting more and more studies about more and more dumbass ideas… smdh…

Anonymous
2 months ago

Right? Just extend the mover up to Wynwood. That alone would be massive…connecting every neighborhood from wynwood to coconut grove

Anonymous
2 months ago

Metrorail. We even have an east-west platform, but no…

Latin Arch Lover
2 months ago

i disagree this project is so utterly stupid and wasteful it’s too valuable a project to use for graft and corruption, it will absolutely “get built”

Anonymous
2 months ago

A tunnel for cars? Just build a functioning subway at that point.

As good as it gets
2 months ago

They don’t have to go that far. Just build dedicated lanes for buses or trams at half the cost. They can be all electric and driverless like in Dubai, Istanbul, Shanghai, Lahore, etc, etc

Anon
2 months ago

Trackless trams are dope

Anonymous
2 months ago

Except it’s still a bus. While a bus stop can easily be moved and routes changed, having tracks means there is a degree of permanence, which means higher investment along and at stations.

Lenny
2 months ago

Very thoughtful take. Like that “degree of permanence” idea.

Melo, a true giga chad
2 months ago

Eww. Buses suck

MM305
2 months ago

Dont think of them as buses, think of them as trains without the limitation of a track.

anon
2 months ago

benefit of a track* wheels create friction = higher maintenance, more bumpy, more expensive, and MUCH slower

anon
2 months ago

if this was sarcastic i retract my comment lol

Brutus
2 months ago

Great, can the City pay Elon in MiamiCoin?

Anonymous
2 months ago

A draft of a study for a proposal – can’t wait to hear about the 15th proposal!

Melo, a true giga chad
2 months ago

What about a tunnel with a f*king train instead?

Lenny
2 months ago

What would the operating costs be per rider?
Per car?
What is the maintenance expense per rail car?

Anonymous
2 months ago

A train is infinite times more efficient as it can carry wayyy more people and it doesn’t get stuck in traffic. Having a bunch of teslas transport people leads traffic, look at the Las Vegas Loop tunnels. For what you’re getting, building a train is worth more than a tunnel for Teslas

Westchester Kid
2 months ago

Oh yeah because sedans are the way of the future. Rail has been tried and tried again to be replaced and it never seems to work. Why not work on expanding on the metro rail or if new projects are what’s wanted then at grade light rail lines. All these vanity projects are for those who don’t rely on mass transit. Miami winning in a lot of aspects. Public transportation is not one!

able
2 months ago

Imagine paying WSP $40k to study this. Congratulations to WSP’s lobbying arm.

Elon Dusk
2 months ago

Extend metromover to mars

Anonymous
2 months ago

Make new bus stop right in front of your house.

Anonymous
2 months ago

Why stop there when it can be extended to Uranus, no fare introduction plz.

plotz
2 months ago

Your anus -not my anus lol

Nooo
2 months ago

And it doesn’t even go to Miami Beach.

Anonymous
2 months ago

Don’t bother. This is not going anywhere…

Norm in Pompano
2 months ago

Yes! Why bother with the obvious common sense option of expanding metromover. We need more transit studies!

I too have been working on a new innovative and revolutionary mass transit concept uniquely suited for South Florida that entails the use hi-tech drones, carrier Seagulls, cocaine and the recent Only-Fans transplants living in Opera Tower!

I just need 100k to finish the feasibility study… where’s my check Miami Pols?

Anonymous
2 months ago

Unless you mean Metrorail, Metromover is just as impractical, if not worse with tax dollars, building flyovers, and considering its low capacity and speed.

Also, I thought Vizcayne and Icon Brickell are OnlyFans transplants go-to addresses.

Anonymous
2 months ago

Haha.. somebody who already paid for his own personal study, and that it told him that extending the Metromover is worse to spend tax dollars on because it would mean building more flyovers, the cars are low capacity, and they don’t move at least 80mph.

lol… clowns like this really need to get off his pulpit and stop trying to preach to the people.

Lenny
2 months ago

Why?
Because the Metromover is VERY expensive, has low ridership, is VERY expensive to operate, and it clutters the sky with concrete structures!

Anonymous
2 months ago

Well I guess (in your opinion), that Elon Musk’s idea will be a “cheap tunnel, cheap electric cars which will have very high ridership, cheap operating expenses, plus all this will be cheap to maintain. And it’ll be underground so it won’t “clutter the sky.” Now after having a Metromover rail system in place for over thirty years, all the kinks and failures of the system is already and very well known because the rail system has been worked on many, many times and we have it in operation already in the city! Now Elon Musk and Lenny is telling the citizens and tax payers to trust some wilda$$ idea that has unknown and never seen before problems that will definitely happen in this city and county, along with an unknown cost to fix them.

Somebody is trying to tell us, “just wait, you’re gonna see that cart pull that horse!… “

Lenny
2 months ago

Lenny has noticed that the Confederacy of Blog Commenters bitching and complaing about how bad the MetroMover operated, whining that the politicians don’t spend money reasonably on the Metromover, and crying that Bureaucrats don’t set the path to anywhere people want to go, think the solution is more of the same.

The same Confederacy of Blog Commenters advocate for allowing the same incompetent dopes to keep doing incompetent dopey things.

The Metromover opened 1984. That’s really the smartest idea in the last 38 years?

You hitch your cart to the politicians, Bureaucrats, and Metromover.

I’ll bet my money on the rocket scientist.

Anonymous
2 months ago

^ Enjoy living on Mars Lenny.. okay?

Norm in Pompano
2 months ago

Why are Miami and Fort Lauderdale politicians hellbent on wasting time and money entertaining these idiotic electric car tunnel proposals?!

South Florida pols are either completely brain dead/useless or seem to intentionally be working to undermine-forestall any improvement in mass transit down here. Basically the only real mass transit expansion/improvement that has occurred decades is due to a private sector investment- Brightline

Anonymous
2 months ago

Pick fentanyl over cyanide. Still better than politicians in NYC or LA.

Lenny
2 months ago

Simple.
Miami & Ft. Lauderdale are young cities and are afforded the luxury of considering techniques of the future, and not of the past.

Lenny
2 months ago

Hey NIP,
Interestingly, your post was made on the 10-year anniversary of the Orange Line Metromover Expansion to Miami International Airport.
July 28th, 2012.
I rode that day, and one other time since.

Show of hands….has anyone posting here ridden the Metrorail expansion MORE than twice in 10 years?

Kitty W
2 months ago

Or, or … hear me out. Crazy idea, but put a train in the tunnel.

However if the tunnels were privately funded then I don’t care if you run them with electric ice cream trucks, as long as taxpayer funding is nominal.

Anonymous
2 months ago

$40K to study something so incredibly stupid. Next time just spend the $40K buying skateboards for nursing home residents. Stay consistent.

Azure
2 months ago

Single electric vehicles seems like a wasted opportunity. We need more mass transit, not this none-sense.

Truth Matters
2 months ago

I certainly wouldn’t want to be stuck in a traffic jam on a underground grid. This is ridiculous. An idea that does not solve congestion; just aggravates it because it encourages more vehicles on the road. Pathetic. I thought we were considering taking care of the planet. Electric cars are not that green guys. Sure they may initially reduce CO2 but where is electricity going to come from? Where is all the energy to produce batteries coming from? Where are we going to get rid of all the dead batteries? I say the solution is mass transit not individual cars, be it electric or combustion engines.

Anonymous
2 months ago

Fucking stupid.

Anonymous
2 months ago

“Vehicles on Track”….

I dont know if I should laugh or cry. YOU’VE INVENTED A TRAIN YOU DUNCE JESUS H CHRIST

Mad Dash
2 months ago

Not only is this preposterous, it is hilarious. Imagine the decades of disruption while the tunnels are being built, the flooding during construction, the accidents and the reinforcements that would have to be implemented, the money that it will cost to build. For what?

Anonymous
2 months ago

Then just build a subway system! What is this nonsense?

LALO
2 months ago

ridership will be so low. This is a dumb idea. Just expand metrorail

Anonymous
2 months ago

Booooooo

Choo Choo
2 months ago

If we’re already building tunnels, just put the metromover or metrorail in them. Its not that complicated…

Anonymous
2 months ago

Could be… could be… I’ll wait sitting down,

Anonymous
2 months ago

please everyone we have to let the city know that this is an overpriced underground bus with less capacity, we need the city to either expand the metro/metro mover or build light rail.

Anonymous
2 months ago

They heard the people in this city over and over about expanding the metrorail/metromover along with building some light rail and you know what they’ll say?.. “there is no money for any of that.”

Anonymous
2 months ago

What? Why? Idiots!!!