Miami Mayor Proposes Citywide Underground Transportation Network Built By Elon Musk

Miami Mayor Francis Suarez announced this week that he wants a citywide, underground transportation network to be built by Elon Musk’s The Boring Company.

Suarez wants to connect Brickell to downtown Miami, Brightline’s MiamiCentral Station, Miami Worldcenter, the Omni area, Wynwood, and Little Haiti, according to Bloomberg.

Riders would not be allowed to drive their own private cars in the underground tunnels.

Instead, they would board shared electric cars underground, which would then drive through the tunnels.

Commutes that now take 40 minutes would be reduced to just 5 minutes.

The mayor said he will pursue federal funding for the project. Suarez intends to speak with U.S. Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg about the plan.

In addition, Suarez said he would consider a plan to allow private funding for the project, which would then be turned into a for-profit model with fees for rides charged by the developer.

The cost to build is expected to be around $10 million per mile.

The Boring Company has already built a tunnel in Las Vegas, which Suarez toured last week.

Suarez said that it would actually be easier to build tunnels in Miami than in Las Vegas due to the porous limestone bedrock under the city, according to the Herald. In Las Vegas, the company had to drill through much denser subsoil, he said.

 

 

 

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Anonymous
6 months ago

I’m just curious how big the stations will have to be. I read in another article each car will only hold 5 people. My concern is it might only take you 5 minutes to reach your destination but will you have to wait 30 minutes for a car?

Anonymous
6 months ago

Exactly fast transit does not equal mass transit. We need mass transit. A few people at a time taking a single car for a 5 minute ride that leads to 45 minute waits is not what we need

Anonymous
6 months ago

I imagine that the fares would reduce how many people can feasible afford to ride and therefore the demand would not be what you’d expect from traditional public transportation. The big secret that no one is going to admit is that ultimately this is a transportation system that will ultimately serve, the wealthy and connected and tourists. It’s a niche system, not a true mass transit system. Not saying that there won’t be a residual benefit in terms of traffic reduction, but this is not “mass transit” where individuals use it everyday for their necessary travel.

Anonymous
6 months ago

….put it this way, lets say hypothetically, it’s art basel, and the people are going from the Perez Museum to Little Haiti (design district). let’s say you had 1,000 people you wanted to move, at 5 persons per car, thats 200 individual cars, or 200 trips per car. Does that sound like “mass transit”? Also how much is a 5 person tesla? let’s say you have 200 of those cars at 50K each, thats 10 million dollars in vehicles. This is a “niche” system. But no one will say it because ultimately the public will pay one way or the other. I’m not saying it can’t work or will be impossible, but it’s just not a great bang for the buck and certainly not something that will transform the city by and large for the majority. I think it’s a scam.

Anonymous
6 months ago

It is a scam. The article states – “Suarez wants to connect Brickell to downtown Miami, Brightline’s MiamiCentral Station, Miami Worldcenter, the Omni area, Wynwood, and Little Haiti”

Brickell and downtown are already connected by the Metrorail and the Metromover. Brightline’s MiamiCentral Station to Miami Worldcenter is already connected by the Metromover. And you’ll be able to take the Metromover once it’s extended to the Omni, Wynwood, and the Design District.

Like the saying goes, why are they trying to invent the wheel when it has already been invented?

Anonymous
6 months ago

When you take metro mover in Brickell, you don’t have your car once you get off. You ride through the tunnel in your car to your destination then you exit in your car. It’s not meant to be mass transit. It’s a niche that serves those who wish to avoid traffic congestion while still having the flexibility of having your car.

Anonymous
6 months ago

“Riders would not be allowed to drive their own private cars in the underground tunnels” You have to ride in Musks cars, which the City/County would have to purchase

Anonymous
6 months ago

Wrong. Read the sentence again, this time emphasize “drive”.
Riders would not be allowed DRIVE their own car.
Watch the video.
More than likely, the system will require the driver of his own car to drive onto an platform (like in the video), and then the riders can no longer DRIVE. The sled whisks the riders along the track.

Anonymous
6 months ago

“Avoid congestion” 😂

Anonymous
6 months ago

Lemon City (Little Haiti) and the Buena Vista (Design District) are two different neighborhoods.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Yes, it is not intended to be mass transit, rather to take more cars off surface roads, thereby reducing traffic congestion. It would however, be ideal for the Brickell bridge issue, and that alone is worth the investment.

Anonymous
6 months ago

“The cost to build is expected to be around $10 million per mile”

“They “EXPECT” the cost to be around $10 million per mile. With all the work it’ll take to do on this tunnel, if you think $10 million a mile is all it will take well then I own some swamp land I’m selling that I think you’ll be interested in buying.

William
6 months ago

This won’t work. Its certainly not mass-transit. Not to mention that the limerock is super tricky to tunnel through. The tunnel to the port had a 150MM change order to grout above the tunnel, to reinforce the area since it would likely collapse onto the boring machine….

Anonymous
6 months ago

In addition to the hydrostatic pressure of the high water table, How deep is the tunnel? you have sewer and sanitary lines below the buildings to avoid. you have to get people from street level down which means also adherence to the ADA, are the vehicles “accessible”? you need emergency exits up and out. two exits! not more than 200 feet or so. just look at the design of a metro mover station, which is supposed to be the most “simplistic” transit system, and your basically putting something like that underground, plus a tunnel, and then..How many cars? 5 people per car?! your going to need several hundred cars just to move a thousand people. where do the cars stack? The trip may take 5 minutes, but in order to move a big volume of people it’s going to take hours to move 1,000 people, which is not much at city scale. Imagine moving a Miami Heat game to little haiti at 5 persons per car. that would take half a day. It’s a boondoggle! forget constructability just look at the math of people versus cars.

Anonymous
6 months ago

A cursory Google search will pull up this video.
https://youtu.be/u5V_VzRrSBI
It should answer a lot of your questions.
It begs a few more, but it should be helpful.

Its nice that Elon Musk exists with solutions to counter balance the energy of uninformed people who can only imagine the problems.

Anonymous
6 months ago

“Uninformed” or “un-indoctrinated” to the cult of musk? It would be irresponsible not to question this project especially if you are one of the taxpayers whose hard earned money will be going to fund a private venture with a marginal proof of concept and whose ultimate impact will be extremely limited. The fact that the city of Miami is “selling” this idea as “mass transit”, knowing full well this would be a “niche” project tells me all I need to know. The fact that people who raise intelligent questions on the high water table, and porous bedrock and flooding issues of this specific locality are criticised as “lacking the dream like and heroic vision of our dear leader” tells me all I need to know. It’s a fraud project.

Anonymous
6 months ago

If you look at the demonstration previously seen on the internet, it shows the automobile pulling into an elevator pod and the entire car with its occupants is taken down to the underground tunnel where it is whisked to the destination.

Anonymous
6 months ago

The city and the county should be spending that kind of money on extending Metrorail and Metromover.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Brillliant idea! Lets drill tunnels through the limerock where large high rises are! What could go wrong. This mayor is a clown and just does what every politician does….talks about what ever is popular with no real action. $10 million a mile? I’m calling total BS on that

Anonymous
6 months ago

The tunnels are built to prevent water intrusion

Anonymous
6 months ago

The cost of maintenance to keep a tunnel waterproofed ain’t cheap… just ask NYC.

Anonymous
6 months ago

The Boring Company has already proven it can build tunnels cheaply. Just sayin.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Saying you can do something and reality are two different things.

Alpina
6 months ago

Tunnels are never drilled under high rise structure, they go under the street to avoid the problem you are mentioning

Anonymous
6 months ago

The opposite of what is necessary in a city like Miami. If it was an underground tunnel for rail operations, similar to what Panama City, Panama has (only using it is an example because its another city almost at sea level with similar built environment), that would be one thing. The concern is getting cars off the road, getting people to ride transit. This can maybe hold what, five people a car. One underground light metro car could hold may close to 200 (195 people per car for light metro system under construction in honolulu). This system could maybe only transport 200 people an hour between Miami Central and Brickell, due to the size of vehicles. If we want people to ride transit, why don’t we improve existing infrastructure, or if we want to work with Boring, why not build a tunnel for Metrorail?

Anonymous
6 months ago

Maybe we can con him into building the tunnels for free, and then just run trains there instead.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Again, it’s a matter os size. A Metrorail-sized tunnel would cost as much as it did to land on the moon.

Anonymous
6 months ago

If you go on their website, the boring company says their tunnels can be used for freight trains. Aren’t Metrorail trains smaller?

Paul
6 months ago

I think a lot of the projections for capacity for the tunnel are based on an assumption that driverless cars will be able to radically reduce follow distance at high speed without any risk of crashing. But if that’s true, Miami should just convert its Lexus lanes to driverless car lanes. That would have the same throughput without the need for new tunnels.

Alpina
6 months ago

So if you can build an inexpensive tunnel for an electric car, why not a tunnel for a metro?? Where is the catch??

Anonymous
6 months ago

exactly

Anonymous
6 months ago

Size. A metro sized tunnel is bigger and much more expensive. Suddenly the Musk model isn’t so cheap anymore.

Paul
6 months ago

These tunnels are way smaller than tunnels used for heavy rail. They’re also cheaper because they don’t have steel rails or electrification. They probably also don’t include any of the ingress prevention that a proper rain tunnel would have. The Port Tunnel has a huge concrete door that can come down during a major storm. That kind of system is certain possible but probably not included in the $10M per mile estimates.

Anonymous
6 months ago

We already have an elevated metro begging for extension and funding…. why would we implement an underground metro susceptible to flooding on top of the 50 other modes of transit the city is trying to push??

Anonymous
6 months ago

Having come here from NYC, I’m not up to speed on the existing rail issues, but it appears to me that the Metrorail tracks too far to the west once north of Government Center. It shouldn’t be difficult to get to an address along Biscayne Blvd north of downtown by Metrorail, but it’s not there. Maybe Metromover can take up the slack?

Anonymous
6 months ago

Look, I’m trying to gin-up business for my boring company okay!..

– Elon Musk

Anonymous
6 months ago

Because, the proprietary sleds used are designed to be more reliable than a Miami-Dade County train that breaks down all the time.
The sleds in TBC tunnels don’t use internal combustion engines like the Metrorail. No need for massive ventilation systems in the TBC tunnel.
Etc. Etc. Et .

Check out the video, or any one of the Musk interviews where he explains the efficiency and engineering breakthroughs in his design.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Metrorail doesn’t use internal combustion

Anonymous
6 months ago

Obviously, being one of the sexiest city mayors in the country doest automatically translates to be one of the smartest.
Invest that money in a more realistic mass transit system.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Unfortunately, this solution has many issues that heavy rail and even light rail have solved decades ago. It’s better then nothing but we can’t just stop here.

Anonymous
6 months ago

How about adding a tunnel from downtown Miami, Brickell to MIA?

Anonymous
6 months ago

then what the point of the metrorail ornage line?

Anonymous
6 months ago

But, doesn’t the Metrorail do most of that now?

Anonymous
6 months ago

I mean – “Metromover”

Anonymous
6 months ago

Actually, the new Metromover stops going up N. Miami Avenue will do that. Of course that isn’t actually built, but it will be very convenient once it is. You’ll be able to get on in the Financial District every five minutes or so and be in Wynwood or D.D. in about 15-20. Ideally, they will conclude that the northern extension should be a loop extending either east toward NE 2nd Ave or west toward NW 5th.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Metromover is nice in concept. I used to ride it a lot.
But you can’t talk on your phone like you can in a car.
You dont have panhandlers in your own dedicated car.
You dont have to worry about a Hepetitis-C cough blowing back your hair from the seat behind you.

You know. It’s the little things.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Brilliant. Just do it.

Anonymous
6 months ago

“Brilliant?”

Miami and Miami Beach are right now spending millions of dollars in an attempt to alleviate street flooding because of torrential rains, hurricanes, and king tide. And you say spending millions to bore a tunnel in this city is “brilliant?”

Jesus
6 months ago

I like this idea. The only concern is the impact on the Metromover and it’s ridership and the impact to the people who can’t pay for this. But progress is progress and this is progress. We should allow Musk to use this to connect all of Miami. Miami is becoming the city of the future. Let private investment come

Azarius
6 months ago

It would provide multiple means of transportation for a variety of incomes across the main areas

Anonymous
6 months ago

Metromover would still exist. I’m not paying to wait for a car to take me from Brickell to Downtown when I could have gotten there faster on the free metromover. Metromover can be the local free option and this tunnel can be the express option.

Anonymous
6 months ago

It’s not “express” if you’re waiting to get a “car.”

Anonymous
6 months ago

“We should allow Musk to use this to connect all of Miami”

So what about the rest of the county? This place is more than just east of north Miami and Brickell.

Anonymous
6 months ago

People who don’t care for the metro mover, and rightly so, can use the tunnel. This is how it works: You pull onto a ramp that is electrified. Essentially a car elevator pad. The elevator takes you and your car down to the tunnell where the entire pad (with you and your car is placed on the tracks. The entire package is whisked to your destination, where another elevator delivers you and your car to the surface. You’re still in your car. Again, it’s not intended to be mass transit, but it is a much faster way of getting to your destination. No traffic lights, no tickets, no questionable people sitting next to you. It’s ideal in solving the Brickell bridge problem even if it only took you to downtown, World Center, Bayside, museums, performing arts center and the Miami Arena.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Look, just extend the Metromover to Miami Beach and about all this fantasy land bs.

Anonymous
6 months ago

correction – and “forget” about all this fantasy land bs.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Here’s an idea. From Brickell, you go downtown to Brightline’s MiamiCentral Train Station and from there you take a train to Orlando or travel to Miami World Center, Bayside, museums, the basketball arena to watch the Heat play, the performing arts center, Wynwood, and possibly the Design District. And here’s the kicker.. you do it all on the Metromover!.. an easy transit system that’s already been in place for decades and takes you to each place that I named right now!

Mike Brady
6 months ago

Is there any over-arching vision here? So we’ll have the existing heavy rail Metro system. Tri-rail commuter trains. Brightline. The people mover. The monorail to S Beach. Express transit ways for busses. Now this (maybe)?

Anonymous
6 months ago

“Is there any over-arching vision here?”

Look at the shiny trinket I’m holding in my hand.. now focus.. focus!…

bochur12
6 months ago

No there isn’t. Miami doesnt have a vision when it comes to transit planning

Anonymous
6 months ago

Exactly, theres no vision at all. We need 1 synchronized system that reaches the whole county before introducing all these new pointless clickbaits.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Look, you’re not focusing.. now focus.. okay.. now you’re getting sleepy.. sleepy.. now you’re sleep, when I snap my fingers, I want you to wake up.

Now repeat after me, say – “I want you to bore a tunnel.” Now repeat what I said…

Anonymous
6 months ago

Bury I-95 in the City of Miami and reclaim the land.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Bury that idea

Anonymous
6 months ago

“Riders would not be allowed to drive their own private cars in the underground tunnels.
Instead, they would board shared electric cars underground, which would then drive through the tunnels”

Baaahhhh hahahahaha……

Okay Miami, keep voting in these dumba$$ people with across the water thinking.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Hopefully Elon makes Miami it’s new home and hub for the boring company any any future Elon companies

Anonymous
6 months ago

the Mayor of Miami needs to meet with Pete Buttigieg to discuss Elon Musk creating tunnels around Miami might be the most 2021 Story possible

Anonymous
6 months ago

Buttigieg has other tunnels to bore.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Lol, hopefully he bores a tunnel that can support more than one person. We need one that can support thousands… at once. 😜

Anonymous
6 months ago

Won’t the tunnels fill up like a soup bowl during a hurricane?

Anonymous
6 months ago

That’s funny!

Anonymous
6 months ago

We already have people mover – extend that and improve it — better to travel in fresh air and see the pretty palm trees along the way

Shawn Kouri
6 months ago

Why would they not be allowed to drive their own car through these tunnels? What’s the point of it being used for commuters then? What’s the point of it being used to help with traffic congestion? That’s not right. Tell that to Suarez. Those who have personal Tesla vehicles have to be given that option to use the tunnel. That’s a total no-no!

Anonymous
6 months ago

The point is the tunnels are smaller and therefore cheaper.

Azarius
6 months ago

As well as not prone to human error since cars would be auto pilot

Anonymous
6 months ago

But those people who have Tesla vehicles already will be paying taxes for these tunnels.

Anonymous
6 months ago

You don’t drive your car through the tunnell. You and your car sitting on a electrified platforn is wisked through the tunnel to your destination in 5 to 10 minutes. Your car, is lifted on the elevator back to the surface, and you drive away. No gridlock in traffic, no traffic lights, reduced risk of driver accidents etc.

Anonymous
6 months ago

No they scrapped that idea, now its only private teslas already in the tunnel

Anonymous
6 months ago

Projects of this magnitude are done the the Miami Dade Transportation Planning Organization (TPO). Mr. Suarez is a member, but has not attended a meeting for over two years. The TPO is the proper venue to discuss and evaluate his pland

Anonymous
6 months ago

No it’s not. Anyone can have an idea. In the end it’s in the public’s hands to vote up or down on it, just like it was Metrorail.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Or rather, projects of this magnitude are NOT DONE by the TPO.
Bureaucratic and territorial protectionism is what kills projects of this magnitude.

EJS
6 months ago

Uh…isn’t that called a subway? Why not let people drive their own cars through the tunnels or create a subway system. I’m for either.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Mayor Francis Suarez, can’t you think of something better to do with your time in office?

Anonymous
6 months ago

The Bloomberg article says “Part of this could potentially be a tunnel system under Brickell Avenue, where pedestrians could walk underground and then ride waiting electric vehicles.”
So does that vehicle take you to your final destination, or does it stay underground? Is it a single main tunnel that branches or a network? Still a lot of questions before Elon starts digging.

Anonymous
6 months ago

I am so glad sea level is not rising any more …

Anonymous
6 months ago

You and Barack both. How do you like his Martha’s Vineyard place?

Anonymous
6 months ago

He has options most people here haven’t

Anonymous
6 months ago

Well, Barrack’s new place is nothing compared to Trump’s Mar-a-lago club and home in Palm Beach county.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Except Trump operates his own house as a club while Obummer has security and walls like a hypocrite. Even with fumbling Biden and psychopath Harris, I’m never missing Black Jesus.

Anonymous
6 months ago

I know you miss the “twitter-n-chief” but he’s not in the Oval office anymore… he’s gone now like Jeff Sessions.

Anonymous
6 months ago

It’s bankrupted.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Look, I got the best business mind in the world.

– Donald Trump

Peter
6 months ago

Sounds like a disaster in the making.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Why not aerial cable cars for the same cost, but get up to 5,000 passengers per hour in each direction with scenic views of the city and bay. Many cities in Mexico and South America use cable car systems successfully for mass transit; the La Paz system is 20 miles long with 30 stations and moves over 40 million passengers per year itself; and the other urban cable cars in metropolitan areas move about 500 million passengers per year in total; that’s mass transit! Aerial cable cars require a small footprint on the ground (about 5 towers per mile) and can be constructed in 18 months. The TPO has already done studies on aerial cable cars in 2007 and 2016 with favorable results. Hurricanes no problem, and high tides no problem. Maybe better to fly like a bird than dig like a mole?

Anonymous
6 months ago

That would be nice, but Miami already has way too many transportation options. Each only going certain distance away from where people work and live. Our leaders seem to jump on whatever mode of transportation they like, without concern for cohesion. It seems like we get a new mode of transport with every new mayor administration. By 2050 we’ll Metrobus, Metrorail, Metromover, Metro Monorail, Metro Underground, Metro flying car, Metro water ferry, and Metro Cable car lol.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Slower and even lower capacity than even Metromover. Looking to Mexico and South America for 21st century infrastructure? Please…

Anonymous
6 months ago

They may fall off the cables.

Anonymous
6 months ago

“Why not aerial cable cars”

Oh, oh, here’s another idea… how about “Water Taxis!” And how about “Air Taxis!” And “Tri-Rail” should be extended to “MiamiCentral Station!” And how about a “MonoRail system” to take people across the Rickenbacker Causeway to South Beach! And why not an etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc…..

Anonymous
6 months ago

This would be great from the 5th & Alton Park along the Causeway to Jungle Island and connecting to the Omni Metromover platform.
What a great way to see the cruise ships and the skyline. Charge $10.

Anonymous
6 months ago

In addition to being gullible these Miami mofos could make eating breakfast a confusing venture. Take simple need and make up a confusing and complex roundabout path to fill it. No common much less uncommon sense. Just random chasing of shiny objects.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Like watching your cat chase a laser light spot on the floor that you keep moving around.

Anonymous
6 months ago

Bacon and eggs

Anonymous
6 months ago

do it !

Anonymous
6 months ago

The article NEVER mentions “mass transit”.

Anonymous
5 months ago

I love this concept but I’m very wary about how the ownership structure may look like. Don’t want public infrastructure to go into private hands.