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Midtown's First Train Station Proposed On Brightline Tracks

Midtown’s First Train Station Proposed On Brightline Tracks

A train station is planned to be built near Midtown Miami and the Design District as a demonstration project for the SMART Plan.

A map shows the station location to be either underneath or just north of I-195.

The City of Miami is sponsoring the station, and is working in conjunction with Brightline parent Florida East Coast Industries, according to documents sent to city commissioners.

Another demonstration project is proposed to be a new trolley route that connects with the Miami Intermodal Center on the East-West Corridor of the SMART Plan

Funding is to be issued in fiscal 2019 (which begins October 2018). Half of the funding must come from the local sponsor, with the other half the responsibility of the Miami-Dade Transportation Planning Organization (which may also seek federal or state funding).

The submission to the TPO from the city is due May 21. Miami commissioners are scheduled to vote on retroactively approving the submission May 24.

 

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Anonymous
Anonymous

It’s a start, but a demonstration isn’t needed.

There have been plans for years for the Coastal Link.

Just Get.It.Done.

Also build the station at 54th, 79th, 96th, 125th, 151th, 163rd, etc.

Then you’ll have a real commuter rail that will take real cars off the road.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Can’t wait until Tai-Rail starts running trains on the tracks and everyone in this area complains that the railroad is ruining traffic as if the railroad wasn’t the first thing in the area.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Seriously! It’s been “studied” since 2005 WTF is taking so long?!?!

Lemon City Train Station
Lemon City Train Station

59th Terrace to 61st might be better? The FEC right-of-way is 120′ wide there. In addition, there are more parking opportunities.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Parking? What is wrong with you.

Park and Ride
Park and Ride

Yes. Park and Ride. People need a place to park before they can jump on a train.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Park and ride works well only when the parking is on the outskirts of the city, not inside of it.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Agreed. Commuter Rail to WBP via Bright Line (check). Coastal Link for Miami-Dade County up to Aventura. Metro Mover extensions needed ASAP for dense areas around bay for City of Miami & Miami Beach (Dwntwn, Edgewater, Wynwood, Midtown, Design District, Lemon City, Little Haiti, 79th ST, Kennedy Causeway stops, North Bch, Mid Beach, Faena Dist., Convention Ctr., Lincoln Road, South Beach, McArthur Cuaseway, Cruise Terminals, Back to Dwnwn loops. IMAGINE!

Anonymous
Anonymous

but what about the cry babies out in Kendall on their 1/8 acre lot?

Anonymous
Anonymous

I’d rather see proper transit envisioned in the past, with Metrorail the obvious choice with the unused east-west platform and opening for extension at the airport station. Metromover extensions are just a step up from Gimenez’s “virtual trains.”

A. Nonymous
A. Nonymous

Except Metromovers are grade separated.
Surely the technology has improved so they can run faster with less dwell time in each station.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Now we’re getting somewhere…let’s just hope it leads to something tangible

Anonymous
Anonymous

Hint: It’s Miami, it won’t.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Miami Just built the only new rail in the entire country in years. Hint: Miami is changing.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Hint: it was private industry, not Miami

marc
marc

It’s unfortunate it has to be all the way up there and not centrally located to get the best use out of it like down somewhere by 29th but there is really no land to get that done there.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Tear down 195, build causeway access at grade. Redevelop I195 ROW with a park and new station. Problem solved.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Yes, I agree, they are going to get a LOT of wealthy DD shoppers taking the train to shop. Yeah, right. Plus a TON of Midtown residents walking 4-5-6 blocks including crossing 36 St. to take the train…..LOL
It’s ludicrously hilarious!!!!!

marc
marc

Yep. It’s not optimal. If it were further south you’d get Wynwood, Midtown, and more of Edgewater. Unless the DD becomes an entertainment hub it is only appealing to the ultrawealthy and architectural tourists.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Let’s get both! 29th and 36th! 7 blocks are far to walk.

Anonymous
Anonymous

No one will want to ride on a train that stops every 7 blocks.

Anonymous
Anonymous

29th St would definitely be better if feasible. Less busy of a street, short walk to more destinations, and surrounded by higher density (Wynwood, Midtown, Edgewater). Still close enough to Design, as well. 36th St is more on the edge of higher density development rather than in the middle.

Suomynona
Suomynona

Is there any land for a station on 29th?

I prefer a station at 36th (the South side of the Street). But i also want one on North side of 20th street.

Then add a Wynwood/Edgewater metro mover loop up/down ne/nw 2nd ave and across 20/36th. And connect it South to the school board station. I would even pay $2 a ride on the new mover line if that helped out.

If you’re going to do it, do it right…

Anonymous
Anonymous

This is a great start for mass transit up US 1 north but coastal link is still just a commuter train… Even with this a Metrorail line or metromover extension should go up to at least 79th street. You need something that runs more frequently and has more local stops which would help build up density in the area. But again it’s a great start

Anonymous
Anonymous

Although, I’m happy to hear the news, it’s not going anywhere and it will not be helpful. Imagine someone from Brickell having to take Metromover and then pay another fare to get to Midtown. I think the best solution is to extend Metromover with stops along the route in Wynwood, Midtown and the Design District. This will create synergy with our mass transit system, not create another layer to a totally discombobulated system. Just add the $1.00 fare or an addition for people connecting from the bus or metrorail system. That’s how cities are built. NYC did it last century when it united all the 5 boroughs and the subway can take you all the way from the Bronx to Brooklyn for the same fare. In Paris, you can take the Metro from Chatelet all the way to CDG for one fare. While here to travel 1.5 miles, you need to board 2 different trains and pay 2 different fares.

marc
marc

The Metro Mover being extended has been the way to go for a while now.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Only for proponents of half-assery. It’s amazing, we finally have something about Coastal Link moving forward, but still get neckbeard “experts” grumbling.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Lol, neckbeard expets!!!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Metromover doesn’t have the capacity, especially if you’re using NYC’s subways as a comparison. Keep Metromover for Greater Downtown, Metrorail for Dade County, and railroads for tri-county and intercity. Even if we have to add another layer serving the county like a streetcar, it’s not much different from many world class cities with convoluted, albeit still efficient transit.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Greater downtown should be from Brickell to the DD. And yes, there is capacity. Metromover can run 3 trains at a time. It should be the way to go

Anonymous
Anonymous

Tiny buses running at thirty miles an hour. It doesn’t You just don’t want to pay more than a dollar for quality transit. That’s why everybody here has a boner for extending it over Metrorail.

J S Lasher
J S Lasher

Finally! Someone who knows what they are talking about.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Now please add a station in Aventura… Pretty please.
Would make my life / commute 100% better

Anonymous
Anonymous

It would also make the non-stop caravan of buses down Biscayne Blvd unnecessary which would improve traffic a lot.

Suomynona
Suomynona

Aventura really needs two stops. One by ives dairy (203rd) and one at 186th. Traffic is intense in that area.

Anonymous
Anonymous

It makes no sense to put stations that close on a commuter rail. There are train station platforms that are longer than that walk.

Anonymous
Anonymous

DD shoppers have no need for public transit and nobody lives there…midtown residents and shoppers need a train stop.

Anonymous
Anonymous

There is a new residential building under construction just a block north from that site,

Anonymous
Anonymous

One building vs the second densest neighborhood. Hmmm

Anonymous
Anonymous

“A map shows the station location to be either underneath or just north of I-195.”

So, between Midtown and the Design District, or in the Design District. It might be smarter to have the station on the south end of Midtown bordering Wynwood, and another station further north between the Design District and Lemon City, where Design Place and Curley currently are and slated for redevelopment into what could be solid TOD.

Anonymous
Anonymous

or both!

Anonymous
Anonymous

I believe this is an experimental station. The final and permanent location isn’t decided yet.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Where’s the city proposal? This is far from the ideal site. The perfect site was within the Chiquita property project under construction north of 29th. Surely the city could have traded some extra development rights to the developer in return for a small amount of land for the station within the project. It would have made the project more valuable as well. This could still be easily done with some small modifications to the project plan.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Good one. Except no one in the city cares except to for the cameras.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Good start. But a stop is needed closer to Wynwood

A. Nonymous
A. Nonymous

There’ll be room for a stop at 27th once Nader moves the Latin American Art Museum.
I wouldn’t hold my breath.

Suomynona
Suomynona

Southern Wynwood ok? Around the 20th-22nd street area?

Laz
Laz

thanks but thanks. what we need is the metromover to midtown.

Laz
Laz

meant thanks but no thanks.

Anonymous
Anonymous

You transfer from Metromover at Government Center. Otherwise, got billions to build the tracks and stations, destroying neighborhoods and any potential for good urbanism craved like Wynwood along its path?

Laz
Laz

absolutely! everything along the path going west then turning north can be turned down for all i care.

Oscar
Oscar

Curious as to what they mean by “demonstration.” Will whatever they build be in essence a pop-up? Will Coastal Link trains ever actually stop there (assuming they even complete Coastal Link)? Worried that it’s just going to be some publicly-funded Purple-Line-esque PR stunt that, you know, “raises awareness.”

Anonymous
Anonymous

>> Worried that it’s just going to be some…PR stunt

Yes. Then we’ll need another study before proceeding.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Planned year of completion 2297.

Anonymous
Anonymous

That proposed spot is too far from Midtown to be a viable option for residents living in Midtown. Needs to be closer.

Anonymous
Anonymous

It’s actually the planned spot from the Coastal Link for many years. It’s more than close enough.

Just hope you don’t get killed crossing 36th Street with the lack of pedestrian/bike facilities.

Anonymous
Anonymous

It’s 3 blocks away. You will live.

A. Nonymous
A. Nonymous

I agree, just south of 36th would be a better location. Train riders are much more likely to be going to/from Midtown than the Design District. 6 to 8 feet width platforms are plenty.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Sure, maybe we have some city leadership that you know, as a condition of a building permit for a huge project… would require some space for a train station… right? that would require some vision and leadership which we have none.

Oscar
Oscar

Exactly! Call me when they build a train station in my living room!

Anonymous
Anonymous

1-At least 10% of the midtown residents wont be as lazy as you are, to walk a block or two a day.
2-At least another 10% percent won’t consider walking a block or two an act of public degradation.
3-At least another 10% of the Midtown residents don’t like the suburban dependency on gasoline, so probably they won’t mind walking a block or two a day.
4-Midtown has the closets big box store to the the downtown area, so probably most shoppers will drive or use Uber. Especially if they are tourists of locals buying furniture at Target or West Elm.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Glad to see progress on this front, but why would they build a pop-up station in the Design District of all places? The current population density is to the south with Midtown and Edgewater, plus Wynwood as a major destination for locals and visitors. Love the Design District, but it is a comparative ghost town at this point (hope that changes soon, but it won’t be because of folks taking the train to get there).

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

So…a pop up station basically? Lame. Just build the real thing.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Off topic, but it’s nice to see a Miami neighborhood map with each neighborhood’s actual name.

Anonymous
Anonymous

there should be pop up stations everywhere

Train Station Locations?
Train Station Locations?

Better options would be 52 to 53 Streets and 60 to 61 Streets. There is almost no public parking at 37th Street.

just me
just me

Get it done!!! metro-mover or metro rail all the way up to at least 79st, even Aventura, thats a corridor.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Brighline’s parent company will service that route. Miami Dade County politicians are still debating if more SUV’s per household and expanding suburban development is the right way to mitigate traffic congestion in Miami.

Anonymous
Anonymous

It might be a station for tri-rail but not for Brightline.

Robert Mann
Robert Mann

Trolleys or Potato Chip Trucks painted to look something like a plastic Trolley? These fakes are misleading at best, at worst they are like going into a McDonalds and claiming you’re a Hamburger!

peter
peter

this is past due!!! cant expect this city to grow upward without a real commuter rail!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Elvis Cuz and The Morning Side Mafia will sue the City of Miami for bringing mass transportation to the proximities of their segregated Historic Neighborhood.

Bad Planning 2.0!
Bad Planning 2.0!

There will be NO train station at Midtown Miami. The idiots in charge are selling every square inch south of 36th Street.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Lol “first” Midtown’s train station? When and where is the second one?

Anonymous
Anonymous

Where’s the first? This is for the design district

Anonymous
Anonymous

Good spot for train station.. right smack in the middle of Edgewater, Wynwood and Miami Design District + 2 new planned communities in Buena Vista.

Anonymous
Anonymous

How is this in the middle of edgewater?

A. Nonymous
A. Nonymous

Actually in the middle of Edgewater/Midtown/DesignDistrict/MagnoliaPark according to the map.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Actually on the extreme edge of Edgewater, according to the map and all common sense.