Monorail To Miami Beach Moving Forward After Vote, Genting Promises Fast & Inexpensive Build

Baylink may finally be on track after a county vote yesterday.

Genting and BYD are promising they will build a monorail from Miami to Miami Beach quickly and inexpensively, and county commissioners voted yesterday to move ahead with a bidding process for the transit system.

Here are new details revealed yesterday by Mayor Carlos Gimenez, the Herald, and reporter Doug Hanks:

Station locations

On the Miami side, Genting is offering its property as a station location. In exchange for the site, the company wants a land swap for unknown property.

The Genting station is being called a “commencement point,” likely meaning no extension into Wynwood or Midtown.

In Miami Beach, no station locations have been revealed. However, Mayor Dan Gelber released a letter last week generally opposing the bid, especially if it is linked to a casino.

Cost

The system will cost around $400 million to build.

Genting will contribute $150 million. The remaining $240 million would come from local governments, according to WSVN: $100 million from Miami-Dade, $100 million from the state of Florida, and $20 million each from Miami Beach and Miami.

Genting also wants an unknown annual subsidy for operations and maintenance, but it will be under $11 million per year.

Timeline

Genting says that they can build the system at an accelerated pace, since no federal funding is required due to their contribution (the application process for federal funding takes years).

The bidding process will stretch into next year after yesterday’s vote, however. Miami-Dade commissioners want to open a six month bidding process to allow for competitors – but only after a $10 million study is completed this fall. That means a final vote by commissioners is likely at least nine months away.

Ticket prices

Ticket prices have not been revealed. Holders of weekly and monthly county transit passes will ride free, Genting is promising.

 

 

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Anonymous

So someone living in Homestead will have to ride on a bus to Dadeland South, ride metrorail to government center, transfer to Metromover and then transfer to the Monorail all to get to their minimum wage job at a hotel.

Anonymous

And from the Monorail stop on the beach, rent a scooter to get to hotel and punch in.. and not forget their lunch on the bus.

Anonymous

Please, beach and downtown residents need to organize and speak out against this. we want a real use-able baylink – not a shuttle that is of little use.

Anonymous

Downtowners will not complain about this. I live there and people like to complain about Ultra and the occasional homeless. They could care less about public transportation.

Anonymous

What downtown do you live in ? Many downtown residents like it and moved there BECAUSE there are transit options. Oh yeah, down with Ultra.

Anonymous

I know people that live in my building around 10th street who drive their cars down the street on Biscayne to get to work in the CBD instead of walking or taking the mover. Old geezers hate public transit unless they are poor.

Anonymous

Are you saying that all those people that live in your building who get to work in the CBD by driving their cars “instead of walking or taking the mover” are all “old geezers?” None of them are at least 35 and under?

Anonymous

I can sympathize with this. I lived in Asia for years and enjoyed fast, clean transportation. After coming back I tried to do the same here but I was met with a slow, graffiti filled, urine soaked experience. I switched to driving.

Anonymous

Welcome to America
Get used to your mechanical horse to move around.

Anonymous

Many geezers are at a point of life where the provide significant economic value to society.
If you are billing $300+ per hour, it’s better to be in a car when you can pull over and have an air conditioned private conversation.
Taking calls on a Metromover is rude, not confidential, and there are too many wildcards.
If you don’t provide much economic value, or you have freetime, the Metromover is great.

Anonymous

make 100k at 29 y/o and i take the mover/train/bus. get out of here with that BS that people with money don’t take transit.

Anonymous

Is $100k per year considered “with money”?

Average household income in Brickell is $123k per year.
$100k for an individual is a little above average.

Anonymous

Nonesense….I live downtown and care about public transport. I care a lot.

Especially care about paying high real estate prices (and taxes) to live in dense area and THEN listening to Kendalliehans telling me I have to pay for transportation to THEIR low rent/low tax doorsteps.

Anonymous

at least the bus (S or 120) goes to the hotel already!

Anonymous

There are probably 100 buses a day (literally) that go to Miami Beach.

Anonymous

Yes, but a tourist gets off on the airport and they can take mass transit to Miami Beach

Anonymous

Sorry Buddy but I don’t think City of Miami is looking to solve the problem of how to bring Homestead residents to Miami Beach. Your point is valid but not the problem here.

Anonymous

It should be valid since the county is using the county tax money to fund this as well.

Anonymous

isn’t homestaed another county ?

Ding Dong

No, it’s another country!

Anonymous

Yes, it should be valid. But Remember the mayors and commissioners we elect just want to say “Under my mandate the funds to build a monorail between Downtown Miami and Miami Beach were approved” Even if it only goes fro point A to B.

Anonymous

you are a smarty pants.

Anonymous

Exactly. Baylink…or rail to Miami Beach…or whatever you want to call it is a solution without a problem.

More transit “by any means necessary” dilutes the argument for sensible transit.

Anonymous

A tourist will have to take the metro rail, transfer to the metromover, then transfer again to the stupid monorail, and then take Uber to his Hotel. Are these people stupid or what?
From a total of $400 M Genting only contributed with $150 M the rest comes from local taxpayers packets. Are we stupid or what?
Why don’t we invest that money in light rail looping from downtown-Miami Beach-Midtown/ Edgewater-Downtown?

Anonymous

No. A tourist will not HAVE TO.

They will do what they have been doing for the last 30 years (which works). Rent a car, hire a temp car &driver (taxi or Uber or whatever).

Anonymous

FYI the 150 airport bus goes directly to the Beach from the airport. It crosses 41st st., down Collins to Lincoln rd., and then down Washington where it ends at 1st st./South Point. It runs every 20 minutes and costs a couple bucks. Let’s please crunch the numbers for a $400 million project that will cost a million dollars a month to operate! How many people would have to use it every day for that to make financial sense?

Anonymous

yes. better than driving. but people in HOmestead don’t work in Sobe

Anonymous

That sounds like a story that Daniela Cava Levine would tell at a fundraiser.
Hotel jobs pay well, provide benefits, and afford great opportunities for upward mobility.
In my twenties, I worked at a South Beach Hotel. I made great miney and lived on Hibiscus Island.

If that story were true, it would be a great opportunity for a minimum wage worker from Homestead to fire up the Duolingo or an Audible business book on their iPhone during that long commute, and get a middle manager job within 8 months.

Anonymous

Why anyone living in Homestead would take a job on the beach?
Plenty of available jobs in the Dadeland area right now.

Anonymous

I agree there sould be ONE SYSTEM from Homestead all through Miami, Coconut Grove, Brickell Downtown and To Miami Beach. Not MULTIPLE systems. NY has one Subway which connects everywhere why cant we have this one Monorail system buillt to go From the South and help bring people in to the center of Miami and the Beaches? It should even go then from South Beach through Miami Beach and up through North Beach to Bal Harbour and Sunny Isles and later even Beyond. The Traffic in Miami and Broward is horrendous and is only getting worse. I AGREE why all the connections and different Systems its rediculas.

Anonymous

It’s beyond ridiculous that (coming to/from the airport, areas serviced by current trains, etc) you would need to ride Metrorail/Virgin/Tri-Rail, Metromover, and this thing. No one is going to do that, and their could be capacity issues if hundreds of people are trying to cram into Metromover cars to make this transfer. At a minimum, this should be required to make a connection at Gov’t Center where it can connect to the other high-capacity systems (Virgin, Metrorail, eventually Tri-Rail) to make it a one transfer affair. Then add a stop at the Genting property as well for the casino or whatever. Just my thoughts.

Anonymous

If it doesn’t go to the Government Center or continue up to the Convention Center it’s pointless.

Anonymous

Exactly. This thing is useless if it doesn’t connect to government central / miami central.

Anonymous

For our nimwit ‘leaders’ this is what you need to do if you want to have real ridership and take cars off the road.comment image

Anonymous

Not everyone sees cars as a problem.

And if for some reason they are, Government DEFINITELY SHOULD NOT BE THE ENTITY SOLVING THE PROBLEM.

Anonymous

No one is going to do that, and their could be capacity issues if hundreds of people are trying to cram into Metromover cars to make this transfer.”

It makes you think about the brainlets who want Metromover to go straight to Miami Beach.

Anonymous

“meaning no extension into Wynwood or Midtown” Then this is worthless or the county needs to extended the metromover up North Miami Ave itself.

Anonymous

If this gets build watch county leaders be surprised that no one rides it except for a few tourists.

Anonymous

Why? There’s already an R-O-W perfect for transit. It’s called the FEC.

Anonymous

Who is the brilliant person that keeps requesting studies? I demand we do a study on how the county dose studies.

Anonymous

Metrobus # 120

10 minutes from Omni Station to Washington Ave. $2.25 each way.

Anonymous

Thank you.

Anonymous

I’m generally in favor of grade separated transit options. But a two stop shuttle between Genting Omni property and the Beach seems to primarily benefit Genting.

Anonymous

Of course. Gentting isn’t “donating” $120 million out of the goodness of their hearts. This is a business. It is intended for the future if they get to build the resort.

Anonymous

Primarily, yes. But the bureaucrats get to order up studies and hire their dopey professor buddies to write a few white papers and they all get rich.
As long as the dopey professors keep convincing their dopey students that cars are more evil than opiates, then the bureaucrat machine keeps rolling along.

Anonymous

So we waited 30 years for a people mover with only two stops – start and end? no further connectivity? This is the ultimate failure. But since our elected officials don’t use transit they could care less.

Anonymous

For crying out loud! Just expand the Metromover!! How can this be so difficult?? You have the system in place, you have the carts, you have the stations open in Downtown and Brickell, just do the same to South Beach and Midtown through Wynwood. It really is that simple.

Anonymous

How hard is it to create concrete pillars and build five more metromover stations. But the county rather wait for muh studies.

Anonymous

Well said. Why is this option so hard of a sell to the knuckle heads who run this city ( into the ground).? Just expand the MetroMover. Oh folks – don’t forget that this crop of city politicians is looking for a pension . PENSION for what?

Anonymous

The last time anything was done with the Metro-mover was 1994. Twenty five years later and these numbskulls are still scratching their heads on what to do with it next.

And some people get mad when someone calls this city “third world.”

Anonymous

Metromover is Third World. It’s a few tin can buses with rubber tires.

Anonymous

If the Metromover is that feeble and cheap, then what’s the problem with them taking so long to add just simple extensions to it?

Anonymous

I WANT METROMOVER ONLY, BECAUSE IT’S FREE.

Anonymous

Free?.. numbskull, taxes pay for it.

Anonymous

The metromover is free but it shouldn’t be if/when expanded.

Anonymous

The upkeep and maintenance of the Metromover plus the cost of new cars is done by tax money paid by the citizens of MiamiDade.

You may ride on it without paying but like I said, the Metromover is not free.

Anonymous

Except that it’s not free…

POLO

No, instead they (county government) is expending more than a billion dollars to add a third Lexus lane to I-95!

Anonymous

Excellent news! Those Express lanes are always worth the toll!

Anonymous

Most people here are complaining about it not connecting further. The point is that Genting is a business and they own land on the bay in Miami for a resort that does not have an easy way for guest to get to the beach. This is for the guest more than anyone else. They need the county and city to allow them to build it so if they build it before they announce construction of the resort there will be less opposition. This is for them and not the rest of us.

Anonymous

Yep just like the vegas casinos have monorails, its for their customers first.

Anonymous

$240 million will come from the taxpayers…. lock up our commissioners and king Gimenez

Anonymous

I live in the NW area of Miami that’s only about a block and a half from a Metro-rail stop. Now, I don’t mind getting on the Metro-rail, riding it to downtown, getting off and transferring to the Metro-mover and riding it to the stop across the street from the AA Arena or the new Science Museum. I don’t understand why anyone would think that riding the Metro-rail, transferring to the Metro-mover, and then doing another transfer to this Monorail to go over to Miami Beach makes any sense!

Look people, just connect and run a Metro-mover line over to Miami Beach and cut it out with the witty BS.

Anonymous
Anonymous

The time it takes to transfer from Metromover would be offset by greater speed (and capacity).

Anonymous

But, who wants to transfer and then transfer again? And we’re not even talking about what happens once you get to Miami Beach.

Anonymous

“On the Miami side, Genting is offering its property as a station location. In exchange for the site, the company wants a land swap for unknown property.” – And someday I may need a favor…and when that time comes – D. Corleone

transplant

Oh nice so if you’re coming from the airport to Miami Beach (~10 miles) that’ll be Metro—> PeopleMover —> Monorail —> bus to hotel?

FOUR systems. Clearly these folks have given zero thought to this and behind the scenes this is to create some goodwill to then rationalize giving Genting something they seek.

Anonymous

You forgot the MIA Mover to Metro leg at the airport.

Anonymous

and the often 20 minute wait for an orange line train to come get you at the airport.

305

AND the SkyTrain if you land at a D30-60 or E-Satellite gate

Anonymous

Scooter to hotel😂

Anonymous

No.
The way people do it know is the #36 bus. $2.25 Express from airport straight to Miami Beach (Fountainbleau), with stops in Midtown. Biscayne Blvd. And a few other points of inttrest.

Or, they Uber or $25 taxi

Mark-Anthony Barnes

More than 23 Million people visited Miami last year, the vast majority of them passing through Miami Beach as they did. If we can eliminate half the lyfts, Uber’s, buses, and cars that a lot of these people are using by connecting the bay then it is absolutely worth it (think parking and quality of life- less cars and a more pedestrian friendly beach)

I am in agreement with those who are wondering why this thing isn’t going literally the extra mile to connect to govt center or at the very least overtown. Miami shouldn’t repeat the stupid mistakes of the past I.e building a metro rail that bypassed the airport and would of only cost it 1/20th the amount it ended up costing to build it 20 years later.

Anonymous

Stop speaking like a rational urban planner. The topic is Miami.

Anonymous

Tourism keeps increasing.

You transit weenies are advocating for a solution in search 9f a problem.

Applying common sense to the dopey tourist going to Miami Beach case…tourist often bring luggage and/or children. Cars and Van’s happen to be their transport of choice NOW.

If taxpayers (me) shellbout $200M for a Baylink train. Guess what?? $200M will be gone, and tourists will still choose cars and vans.

Anonymous

FUCK THE CHINESE.

Anonymous

They do have some beautiful women.

Anonymous

Genting also wants an unknown annual subsidy for operations and maintenance, but it will be under $11 million per year.

Anonymous

“The bidding process will stretch into next year after yesterdays vote. Miami-Dade commissioners want to open a six month bidding process to competing bidders – but only after a study is completed this fall.

“only after a study is completed”

Of course.. who cares about the many, many studies that’s already been done, spending the taxpayers money on nonsensical things is priority number one!

Anonymous

And they said the study will cost $10M. Who the hell pays $10M for a STUDY? There is money being paid to politicians and others with influence for their “input” into this $10M “study” I guarantee you.

Anonymous

With the downtown population increasing by 30,000 more residents in the next 3 years – Baylink will be the only way across the traffic congested causeway. Build it!! Hurry!!!

Anonymous

And they said the study will cost $10M. Who the hell pays $10M for a STUDY? There is money being paid to politicians and others with influence for their “input” into this $10M “study” I guarantee you.

Anonymous

In Miami, the study is what it is all about. That’s where the taxpayer money is paid to the relatives of the politicians. That’s the way it’s been for many, many years. Until the Feds bust this up, nothing will change.

Anonymous

Sounds a lot like this idea from 2007 where the “land swap” would have been a hotel at the MB Convention Center (with monorail maintenance built over the west parking lots). http://bit.ly/rrcFP6

Anonymous

Stop!!!

Anonymous

I vote Genting as our next county mayor… Genting getting thinking done for our own government! Took only a few months and they already have the train company, money and most of the plan already figured out. Miami government should be replaced by Genting…. Genting for mayor 2020!!!!

Anonymous

Get a Lyft

Anonymous

Okay.. can you give me a lift to the club?

Anonymous

lol

Afi K. James

I am so happy.

Anonymous

Look at all these hypocrites. Crying and complaining is their favorite hobby.

Anonymous

Miami is too far away from the United States to have any real oversight.

Anonymous

Well I guess you can say the same thing about Seattle and Boston.

Anonymous

Build IT already!! Expand Metromover to Wynwood with the savings…

Anonymous

This is awesome! Finally baylink will happen!!
Great news!!! I’ve been waiting 20 years for this!

Anonymous

You do like counting your chickens before they hatch, don’t you?

Anonymous

he does. lol

Anonymous

Oh gosh. Pls reject. I don’t trust genting for one (o did at first)…there’s a surely ulterior motive. Then, having to connector to slow metromover will make this unrealistic. Extend metromover to port…there’s a worthwhile initiative.

Anonymous

metromover is wholly useless for the port. each car holds what? 20 people with luggage? 10,000+ a time at port coming and going. metrmover can move maybe 500 people an hour.

Anonymous

The FEC curve right before overtown metro rail station can be built over as a metro rail transfer station(between orangr and green lines and also metromover/brightline) to then go directly to the port as a continuation of orange line….my only concern is how brightline wants to put a port miami station… then from the port hopefully a new tunnel (billions I hope not) coming up around either the coast guard area or further onto south beach…yes thats wishful thinking but we are wasting time and money not doing anything might ss well chug forward with a solid plan. money is just debt to ourselves so lets not put debt into the hands of a chinese company…orange line would be airport to seaport/South beach….makes sense to me.

Anonymous

Sorry I mean the curve right next to overtown infront of where the new convention center should be and basically next to bright line….if they build a curved platform that connect via walkway to the current structure it would work perfectly, green platform is the current station and the new curved station is orange line. It can continue overhead of the current rail then branch east closer to the terminals around that park then somewhere along the port burrow then come out pretty quick (it’ll have to be below 50 ft obviously so however deep the current tunnel is) on the Coast Guard site or actually on South Beach or fxk it and have it as a underground station that’ll never flood I hope lmao

Anonymous

Ticket prices have not been revealed. Holders of monthly and county transit passes will ride free, Genting is promising **8 Woo HOOOOOOO ! #GentingIsPromising :/

Anonymous

Just take an Uber.

Anonymous

And if that Uber car you’re in gets into an accident, then what?

Anonymous

Better than being in a chinese monorail accident

Anonymous

What is the Monorail going to get into an accident with, Tri-rail?

Anonymous

Right because theres never been any type of monorail accidents or rail accidents at all

Anonymous

Well genius, how many compared to cars?

Anonymous

pfff!!!