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More Details On Mana's Plan For A Curbless Flagler Street

More Details On Mana’s Plan For A Curbless Flagler Street

Below are new renderings and a video of Moishe Mana’s proposal to remake Flagler Street into a curbless, pedestrian-friendly road.

Planners for Mana created the concept and presented the plans to Miami’s Downtown Development Authority at meetings held in January and February of this year.

DDA board members were impressed enough that they halted a construction project that was underway, and directed staff to look at funding options.

The project could cost around $6 million, and take 36-42 months to build.

 

This video was obtained by The Next Miami from the DDA, along with the renderings below:

 

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Anonymous
Anonymous

When people say people in Miami don’t walk because it’s too hot, summers in nyc can be equally hot but the difference there is most time you’re walking under some sort of shade… they need to add a significant amount of shade trees to their plans which drastically will reduce the temperature on the sidewalks

Anonymous
Anonymous

Also people are lazy and apparently don’t mind spending hours a day in the car.

Miami Hurricane
Miami Hurricane

Yes but no… my pet peeve is you can’t show up to somewhere sweaty in Miami. It’s unprofessional.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Again it gets very hot in nyc in the summer and then going down the subways are like 10 degrees hotter and people still walk and commute to work

Anonymous
Anonymous

That may be so but the previous Anonymous has a point, it is unprofessional to show up sweating like a pig, specially if you are in a profession where one deal can bring in thousands of dollars. You can only make a first impression one time. Obviously you don’t mind and that is fine. I will not tell you how to live your life, don’t tell me how to live mine.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Beleive or not, Elvis Cruz and the Morning-side Civic Association sued the city of Miami over new landscape plans for the Biscayne Boulevard. It was designed to create a tree canopy to encourage pedestrian traffic. They claimed that when tourists from NY come to Miami they want to see palm trees. They also claimed that Plam trees also provide shade.

BDub
BDub

When tourists from NY come to Miami they don’t go to Morningside. Tree canopy for the residents sounds better.

Anonymous
Anonymous

No wonder Biscayne Boulevard still looks like a war zone.

Anonymous
Anonymous

You’ve never been to a war zone

SRS
SRS

Great observation

suomynona
suomynona

This is wrong.

Per weather.com, NYC only has two months where the average high is over 80 degrees (July – 83, August – 81). The average lows for those months are 68 and 63, respectively.

Miami has 6 months over 80 degrees, topping out at 89 in August. It also has 2 months at 79 degrees. Eight of Miami’s 12 months are hotter than NYC’s 3rd warmest month (June – 77). The low temperature for the 6 months in Miami that average highs of 80 degrees or more range from 74-79 degrees.

Miami has much warmer highs and significantly warmer lows, and for much more of the year than NYC. I’m not going to look it up, but humidity/dew point numbers will also bear this out.

That said, I agree with your premise that there needs to be more shade trees and less of the useless palms.

Anonymous
Anonymous

You guys seems to forget the prevelance of mass transit and commuters in a city like Singapore which is on the equator, stop making lazy excuses and stop jerking off NYC like it’s the model to follow when it’s a gross shit hole

Jesus
Jesus

How the hell is something as simple as that taking over 3 years? For crying out loud, with $6 million, I could build that in less than a year! It took a year to build the Empire State Building! Like, I am so disillusioned with the process of getting things done in the United States!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Ah, yes, I love the ESB comparison. Useful for nearly everything today.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I thought this was a shared road… looks like a normal road… without even bike lanes.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Also the intersections feature high speed radius turns instead of pedestrian bulb outs.

aceraroja
aceraroja

I don’t think Flagler downtown needs bike lanes, it’s a slow local-traffic street. Thoroughfares like Flagler going west and SW 1 St east, NE 2 Av, Biscayne, Calle Ocho, etc need major protected bike lanes.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Big step for Mana! Even though its someone else doing all the work and funding, this might be the closest he’s ever gotten to actually making something happen.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Better get this project started now while the streets are dead and not 10 years from now when it will hopefully, have more pedestrian activity

Anonymous
Anonymous

The only places that’ll have streets with people milling around like that are Miami World Center and MiamiCentral Station.

Anonymous
Anonymous

So, where are the bars and clubs Mana?

Anonymous
Anonymous

With the increase in population downtown, this would activate Flagler Street.. anything to make it more touristy and pedestrian friendly.

Anonymous
Anonymous

He should support a TIF levied on his properties to pay for this.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Overall it will be a nice addition to downtown Miami and hopefully will keep it active after 5pm. I didn’t see bicycles accommodated in the renderings. They should probably provide sharrows if no bike lanes will be provided. I also do not see any public amenities such as benches, trash cans and bike racks. Those little railroad guard rails will not protect the pedestrians from the crazed driver trying to plow them down. If they want this to truly be a festive street then they should close all the intersections at night like Austin does with 6th street and south beach does with Ocean Drive. Those rails would only force people to cross on the sidewalks but then what good is closing down the street? Electronic barricades strong enough to stop a car should be built into this project if it will open and close often. However, with so many main streets proposed which one will survive?

Anonymous
Anonymous

love it lets do it fast pleasesssssssssss

Gene
Gene

So, curbs provide the dual functions of water drainage to sewer drain systems as well as providing a barrier between the car and the pedestrian. My questions are: where does the rainfall runoff go and do these bollards provide that protection? I don’t see any drains in the pretty video. I think there needs to be more bollards.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I’d be more worried about the storm surge during hurricanes than rainfall if I owned a business here.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Seems no one has considered the complaints by many that the walk on Lincoln Road with cobblestones can not be enjoyed by women in high heels, people with walkers, wheelchairs, and canes. The 1100 block of Lincoln Road Miami Beach is almost impossible for challanged people to walk on. And everyone on the beach knows that.,

Anonymous
Anonymous

Ha!… Mana doesn’t like black or gay people for that matter.

Anonymous
Anonymous

So Moishe Mana basically wants to convince the city of Miami to build him his own “Lincoln Rd Style” Mall right in front of his downtown properties….???? Yeah right.. I mean, nothing happens in Downtown Miami after 6pm and the entire area is dead so this would be actually be a good idea..However, don’t hold your breaths too long as this probably will take 10 years to get approved and start building like everything in this town..But if it does itd ge pretty cool

Scott
Scott

Flagler will never be a Michigan Avenue the Magnificent Mile in Chicago or even Lincoln Road. Save your millions of dollars & invest the money where it’s needed, homeless shelters, food kitchens, subsidized rentals/housing, etc. Has anyone been downtown on a Sunday? Depressing…Stores & restaurants are closed & closing off traffic, planting some palm trees & opening a Starbucks isn’t going to cut it. Stop wasting our money!

G. Washington
G. Washington

where is all the usual human debris and other low IQ aliens being imported from the s hole countries that seem the litter the street on a daily basis. Six million in remodeling won’t change that unfortunately.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Donald Dump is that you?

Anonymous
Anonymous

If you don’t like it then please take I-95 north to wherever you please