Plans Filed For 500 Residential Units At Shorty’s BBQ Site In Dadeland

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A developer filed plans yesterday to build a large project on the Shorty’s BBQ site in Dadeland.

According to the November 30, filing, there will be two towers rising 20 stories (south building – 318 feet) and 25 stories (north building – 280 feet), with:

  • 500 multifamily residential units
  • 4,850 square feet of retail
  • 668 parking spaces on the ground through eighth levels

All parking will be in the south building, connected to the north building by pedestrian bridge.

The Dadeland South Metrorail station is adjacent to the site.

Florida Value Partners and Atlantic Pacific Communities are listed as the developers.

Corwil is the architect.



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Robin Stan
6 months ago

We need density like this next to the Vizcaya metro!

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anonymous
6 months ago

all the NIMBYs in that area would never let something like this happen. Even if its for the good of the area

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Urbanist
6 months ago

All the NIMBYs there should move away from transit if the don’t want density. People who already own homes should not get to dictate what the rest of the region does with the land. If they dont like their new neighbors, they are free to leave!

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Anonymous
6 months ago

Metrorail came after most of the surrounding homes were built. Have some respect for property rights. Without property rights, there’s no reason to own or invest in property.

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Anonymous
6 months ago

Downvoted by children who’ve never owned property–and probably never will.

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Robin Stan
6 months ago

Why would I not want my property up-zoned? Thanks to the shit system built in the past century there’s too much value in zoning; but if I could benefit from it why wouldn’t i want it?

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Anonymous
6 months ago

^^Why wouldn’t it depend on the location? Why would someone with a house in the middle of Pinecrest want their home up-zoned? The whole point of the area is low density living.

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Jerome
6 months ago

Upvoted by grown-children with a regressive “I got minez, F you” mentality

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Anonymous
6 months ago

^ ^ Oh poor baby! Nobody’s handed you a home yet? We’ll get right on it.

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Anonymous
6 months ago

Those plots came with limited “rights” obviously. They were probably purchased for a fraction of the cost that they are going for now. Those owners are blessed and better off than moth of us. Not much to complain about there.

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Melo, a true Giga Chad
6 months ago

“No reason to invest in property” are you serious? You can sell to a developer for twice as much as what you paid for

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Anonymous
6 months ago

Agree, its not like their property values haven’t gone up a fortune. Sell the land to someone who will utilize it. Now they can afford an acre or more someplace where they won’t feel so NIMBY. We need more dense low rises and rowhouses with ground floor retail in these areas. Win-Win.

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Anonymous
6 months ago

Buy an acre where? Property values EVERYWHERE have skyrocketed, even in dumpy forsaken small Midwestern towns. This isn’t like the mid-2000’s, where skyrocketing values were really only found on the coasts and in the desert Southwest.

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Anonymous
6 months ago

Central Florida

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Anonymous
6 months ago

Royal Palm Beach

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Anonymous
6 months ago

Port Saint Lucie – one of fastest growing cities in THE US right ont be water and north of palm beach county, or Martin county has a charming historial Main Street by the water in Stuart.

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Anonymous
6 months ago

They had to know it would eventually develop denser when they bought there – it’s not like a fixed gates community with an HOA.

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Anonymous
6 months ago

Percentage wise, Treasure Coast prices have gone up as much—if not even more–than Dade/Broward prices since the pandemic. Particularly waterfront homes up there. They’ve been discovered, the secret’s out.

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Anonymous
6 months ago

Yes Miami is now attractive all over because it’s done so well. That’s why owners get to make money from their property. Isn’t that what property owners want? You can’t always get a profit and then move down the block. That’s 101 of property.

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Hilarious!
6 months ago

“Yes Miami is now attractive all over because it’s done so well”

You must be smoking some really good shite!!!

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Anonymous
6 months ago

Except private ownership land and property rights are a thing, and like it or not, the residents are stakeholders.

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Anonymous
6 months ago

Is that what you said about Morningside in the Upper East Side. Granted, Morningside is one of Miami’s best neighborhoods and legitimately historic. Most the houses near Metrorail here are one-story postwar shacks, and rebuilds are hideous concrete boxes.

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Mad Dash
6 months ago

It’s a residential neighborhood. Sorry, it won’t happen. But there are plenty of developable land on 3rd Ave (Coral Way) That’s where I can see that density happening.

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anonymous
6 months ago

Its in a rapid transit zone and that area should be allowed to turn into higher density. As the city continues to grow you have to expect that density follows in areas that are not as dense but close to transit

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Linda
6 months ago

What’s the point of having a metro one stop away from Brickell that doesn’t have a dense walkable neighborhood?

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Urbanist
6 months ago

That area should just elect to go with Miami Dade County zoning!

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Anonymous
6 months ago

It would benefit everyone! It’s a prime spot for a Brickell backyard, chill dense residential/retail walkable zone.

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Anonymous
6 months ago

Um, isn’t Brickell already a “dense residential/retail walkable zone?”

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Anon
6 months ago

Not a low-rise one like Coral Gables.

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Anon
6 months ago

Brickell is relatively small – you could walk from western brickell to eastern brickell in 10 minutes. People would walk 30 minutes if there weren’t disruptions like a hot bridge to deter them.

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Anonymous
6 months ago

IDK about 10 mins more like 15-20 but yes still small

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Anon
6 months ago

I know it is 10 minutes — I estimated based on experience, but confirmed.

Google map says from Chase Bank on 2nd Avenue (“western Brickell”) to the new Citadel HQ ( in “eastern Brickell” on the bay) it is only a 10 minute walk.

Also, from 2nd Ave to Biscayne Ave, it is only a 7 minute walk. Really all of Brickell is the same neighborhood and quite small, with room to expand up SW 3rd avenue past the roundabout and underpass to the Roads.

It’s about a 10 minute walk from each corner of Brickell (except the southern strip along the bay, which seems more isolated and less walkable).

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Linda
6 months ago

I walk from Panorama to the Underline for free yoga and Publix. Great spot for groceries and people watching. The buttery fly garden attracts a lot off butterflies. Been seeing the big orange monarchs lately.

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Slim Shady
6 months ago

But Brickell isn’t “chill”

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Anonymous
6 months ago

Vizcaya Stop is not a single-family home area. It is a SMART transit zone hub with zoning for denser buildings. This could be the historical neighborhood that visitors and residents want to see, with access on the train line. It could be low-rise rowhouses and townhouses with retail on the ground floor to give it a denser but attractive residential vibe.

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Anonymous
6 months ago

Agree! With the Underline expanding here, people living in Brickell would love to have a destination to ride a bike or jog to (without crossing a bridge to downtown), and a destination to explore Vizcaya and grab juice or lunch at the future walkable low-rise urban community of Vizcaya.

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Anonymous
6 months ago

The Vizcaya drop is right on US1 with all its commercial zoning and graffitied fences being replaced with modern Underline Park, nothing about it screams residential except some homes that look like they could use an update or just be rebuilt into denser multi family low rises and added walkable blocks of retail and restaurants.

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Anonymous
6 months ago

I’d rather see SW 32nd Road to Coral Way rebuilt into a divided avenue like the other side of I-95, and redeveloped with mid-rises like Coral Way, only all with ground-floor retail. It would be a fantastic gateway from Coral Way to Vizcaya, while respecting the established single-family neighborhoods.

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Anon
6 months ago

The underpass under highway should be revamped with beautiful, paved sidewalks, fountains, art and trees, and yes then this could be the new gateway to a new walkable neighborhood if the low-rise density picks up in this area. There is a new roundabout going up which would be the perfect spot for an oversized statue and landscaping in the center and pedestrian walkways all around.

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Anonymous
6 months ago

A gateway like the new roundabout and underpass on SW 3rd Avenue need to have spectacle and street level art amenities and landscaping to pull people in and get their curiosities going to keep walking to the Roads main downtown area on SW 3rd… this street would be great for medium high rises since there is a beautiful commercial boulevard connected to Brickell.

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Guy
6 months ago

Better be a new shortys built asap in replacement

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Pleezzee
6 months ago

Why?.. this is not the only place selling BBQ in Miami.

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Guy
6 months ago

Shortys BBQ is a stable of South Miami. Amazing BBQ

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Guy
6 months ago

Staple*

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BBQ_Lova
6 months ago

but what about the BBQ !!! please incorporate it into the plan so every unit has a nice smell.

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Melo is sigma and Chad
6 months ago

Miami is lacking in BBQ spots, even old ones in Liberty City are closing down.

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Anonymous
6 months ago

Is that a joke?

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Anonymous
6 months ago

No, matter of fact, it’s zoning regulation. Call MDC Building and zoning if you don’t believe it. Rule states all new condos built over former BBQ joints must maintain a BBQ smell at all times.

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Anonymous
6 months ago

Lol what?! It must be to keep people from bringing frivolous claims that the smell is a trespass of their airspace.

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Melo is sigma and Chad
6 months ago

Good infill and Dadeland is a underrated area, Hope other metrorail stations get more density like Okeechobee, Hialeah amd Palmetto. Funny all the metrorail stations without high density are in Hialeah.

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Free Idea Guy
6 months ago

Love the wave-like linear lines! This design element has become a staple in Miami. It brings continuity to the skyline and City’s developing architecture. I also love the thick border that runs up 3-sides of the building, giving it dimension – It has height without being overpowering to the human scale.

The design also has a covered connecting walkway (like the iconic BCC design) – people love this for many reasons. Not only is it beautiful, but it brings shade to the ground level while giving people easy access on the top level to cross busy streets. This is a design feature that may have BCC introduced and is booming here for how successful it has become. Hope they do this feature more in developing Brickell and around Miami.

Approved!

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Anonymous
6 months ago

We could use more architectural variety, however.

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Chris A
6 months ago

When Shorty’s BBQ agreed to sell their property for $14.5 Million in late 2021 the developer signed a sale-leaseback agreement so that Shorty’s could continue to operate their restaurant business at that location for 5 more years. There is a possibility that Shorty’s could also be part of the future development on the site.

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Anonymous
6 months ago

Walking distance to Bare Necessities…..Dadeland Winning baby

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Enzo
6 months ago

When I turned 18 I went to bare necessities. Talk about a traumatic experience eh

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Tony Montana
6 months ago

Good bye Shorty’s 4 generations of my family loved ya (The other locations are a shadow of the original)

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Anonymous
6 months ago

My parents said back in the 70s, when the Dolphins played in the Orange Bowl and many players lived in Coral Gables/Pinecrest, occasionally a few players could be spotted eating there.

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Anonymous
6 months ago

Basically what all Melo projects should look like. Organic, but not a cluttered mess, and better concealed parking garages. Heck, this is unincorporated and not subject to Miami21, yet still conceals its parking far better.

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The Obvious
5 months ago

Greed. Like we don’t have enough vertical concrete in South Fla.

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anonymous
6 months ago

looks silly with the massive tower next to the highway without any set back.

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anonymouse
6 months ago

Why ?

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I love to assume
6 months ago

Because they may interfere with people who run just as fast on the sidewalks as cars move on the streets.

lol…

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