Plans To Build 80-Story Brickell Supertall Paused By Church

Negotiations to build an 80-story supertall tower on a parking lot behind Brickell’s First Miami Presbyterian Church are on hold after a member filed a complaint.

The church’s regional governing body known as the Synod of South Atlantic ordered a halt to negotiations in response to the complaint, according to the Herald.

In October, church members voted 68-42 in favor of moving forward with a deal.

However, a single member filed a complaint to the Synod following the vote.

After reviewing the complaint, the Synod decided that not enough notice was given to church members before the vote. In addition, the Zoom meeting where the decision was made overstepped boundaries.

The church now has 45 days to challenge the decision. If it doesn’t challenge, the Synod could take another year to decide what to do.

Developers 13th Floor and Key International have plans to replace the church’s surface parking lot and a school building with the 80-story tower, while preserving the historic church.

The Herald has aggressively campaigned against the plan with multiple articles, including one lamenting the potential loss of food trucks in the parking lot. The paper’s editorial board also wrote an op-ed in opposition to the plan.

 

 

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Anonymous
15 days ago

rather than getting a susbstantial increase in funding for the church and getting more tax base in the city we are worried about a couple foods trucks?? lmaoooo

Anonymous
15 days ago

Have those trucks relocate by the FTX Arena

Anonymous
15 days ago

Those parking lots would make money from food trucks than parked cars for sure. Plus it’s a great location full of foot traffic due to games and concerts. That would be cool.

Anonymous
15 days ago

You know, it’s incredible, restaurants are right now struggling to survive all throughout the Brickell area and the Herald is worried about “food trucks” there…

smdh…

Wat
14 days ago

Those poor restaurants… If they can’t compete they should stay out of the kitchen. That’s how the free market works.

Anonymous
15 days ago

The herald needs to fuck off, the church had gotten in trouble because they were generating revenue from those food trucks so now they owe taxes. Building this will pay the taxes they owe, make a new school, provide more money for the church, and the food trucks will most likely be replaces by ground floor shop/restaurants.

Mark Twain
15 days ago

I don’t understand the distorted view on taxes. Yes they owe taxes because they had an exemption for non lucrative business and when they started making money with the school activities- and after with renting the space to food trucks- they need to pay taxes. And this is regardless they sell the parking lot or not

Anonymous
15 days ago

Cool, so tell the same to that synagogue making money off 7-Eleven leasing street front retail space.

Anonymous
15 days ago

if a church is running a business, such as a food truck, they need to pay taxes like you and I do.

Anonymous
15 days ago

perhaps you need more of your church if you feel ok to tell the herald to fuck off.
I believe the church should fuck off and mind their own business for a change.

Anonymous
12 days ago

I prefer the food tracks than boring ground floor shops restaurants.

Anonymous
15 days ago

The church doesn’t even do in-person services now. Other local churches have been back in-person for well over a year. Also, someone should unpack the complaintant’s agenda.

Anonymous
15 days ago

“Yeeea, we did it!” *tips fedora and scratches neckbeard* -Anti-Church Edgelords at The Rag FKA The Miami Herald

Anonymous
14 days ago

Can anybody think of the school in the property? The lack of parks the lack of public spaces Completely lacking in Brickell

Anonymous
11 days ago

Democrats are insane

Anonymous
9 days ago

That’s the idiocy behind that trash paper called The Miami Herald. How brain dead do you have to be to write a puff piece on why its so bad for the city to lose out on an empty parking lot filled with a few food trucks. I hope none of you waste your hard earned money on subscribing to the miami herald. The owners of that paper are Commiefornia based, if that says anything at all i don’t know what will.

Anonymous
6 days ago

Hahaha so true. The Miami Herald has sadly resorted to activism vs journalism.

Anonymous
15 days ago

Irony much – I think a few of us are old enough to remember the Herald cashing in by selling a waterfront building just a few years ago…

Anonymous
15 days ago

Food trucks?!!! They can go somewhere else. What’s wrong with the Miami Herald?! The trucks have wheels to go from point A to point B.

Anonymous
15 days ago

Someone in one of the Herald articles described the parking lot as “green space.” The “green space” is a large patch of green outdoor carpet. Hard to make stuff like that up!

Anonymous
14 days ago

Well, it’s green isn’t it?!🤣

Anonymous
15 days ago

Because of ONE complaint? Wow okay.

Azarius
15 days ago

The entitlement that some ppl express is sickening

Anonymous
15 days ago

Yeah right.
Some power some people have

Anonymous
15 days ago

It’s funny that the article didn’t say anything about that person offering a dime of his/her money to pay off any debts.

Someone
14 days ago

I presume this came from a paying church member. So they are already offering many dimes presumably.

Anonymous
13 days ago

Lol, you really are a presumptuous person aren’t you?

Anonymous
15 days ago

Miami Herald is the worst.

Anonymous
15 days ago

God wants them to build it

Anonymous
15 days ago

Stop the madness and build it already!!

Anonymous
15 days ago

Don’t build this because it will disrupt a fucking cluster of food trucks?? gtfo, lmao, they got wheels–move them on out of there!

Anonymous
15 days ago

If the Orange Bowl had to go, then why can’t these food trucks?

Anonymous
14 days ago

Nobody wanted the OB to go, unfortunately. The city and county got snookered in with the cash “benefits” of the deal and from the developer. Today, the baseball stadium there does not ever draw sellouts because the team on the field is garbage to mediocre at best. Oh well.

Anonymous
15 days ago

lamenting the potential loss of food trucks wow herald its a net win for Miami

I just see all the hypocrisy from LeBron.
15 days ago

Miami Herald is Pravda … a communist liberal voice ! 🤭🤗

Anonymous
14 days ago

literally people using communist for everything these days like bruh

Anonymous
13 days ago

And stupid emojis…

Anonymous
14 days ago

Comunista dijo!

Anonymous
15 days ago

BUILD IT!!!

Azarius
15 days ago

I hate when one person just can’t accept a loss, the food trucks and the things they are citing are very nimby and we don’t need that in Miami

Anonymous
15 days ago

Probably at least a 50% chance that person has a view to be blocked by the project.

Anonymous
14 days ago

Doubtful. Herald reporters can’t afford views.

Anonymous
15 days ago

Oh no. We will lose the foodtrucks in the parking lot. Oh no. What will I do?

Anonymous
15 days ago

Starve…

Anonymous
14 days ago

Maybe lose weight or go to the restaurants near by? 🤣

bob
15 days ago

Miami is poised to become a city with a definable skyline. This work would make a significant contribution. The Herald should be a cheerleader for this.

Anonymous
15 days ago

What do you expect, they’re in Doral.

Anonymous
14 days ago

Best comment.
Along with a few cruise companies and a bunch of the only few big companies in town.
Doral is the darling
Views of a dump site and the Palmetto.
Go figure

Anonymous
15 days ago

Build it now. Build 20 more. YIMBY!!!!!

Anonymous
15 days ago

Of course, a parking lot is more appealing and encouraging than a beautiful tower.

Anonymous
15 days ago

This is why we can’t have nice things

Anonymous
15 days ago

very phallic building. veins and sll

Anonymous
15 days ago

It’s from the church…it makes sense

Anonymous
15 days ago

I’d like to see the drawings from other angles. It’s such a great location.

Anonymous
15 days ago

Miami is a place where the population sure is obsessed with “phallics.”

Anonymous
15 days ago

Too bad nine out of every ten buildings are boring boxes.

Anonymous
14 days ago

9.9 my friend

Anonymous
14 days ago

Love it veiny

Anonymous
15 days ago

Can the church just leave the Synod of South Atlantic? After all, they would probably be the wealthiest church in the synod after the sale. That is probably what the synod is worried about.

Anonymous
14 days ago

Not sure how the Synod of South Atlantic works. But it my church, the Conference owns all church property. So if a local church doesn’t like something they can take a hike. No individual church can act out on it’s own. We once had a situation where the local church members and church board didn’t like the pastor that the conference appointed. They proceed to change all the locks and bar the doors shut the night before service in protest. 20 mins after the pastor shows up that morning, the police arrive with chain cutters to open the doors. They then proceeded to arrest the culprits for trespassing and vandalizing conference property. Needless to say, the members were excommunicated from the church on the grounds of insubordination.

Anonymous
14 days ago

*But in my church*

Anonymous
15 days ago

Tell the church patron to pray vs complain.
I don’t see them paying into taxes – until then they can’t complain.

Anonymous
15 days ago

Bulldoze the church and parking lot and double the size of Brickell Park. The tower should be thrown in a dumpster.

Anonymous
14 days ago

This is the epitome of nimbyism. Food trucks, an old church that was probably built when Brickell was a dirt road, one person complains and the whole project may be held up a year, or maybe scrapped? And then the Miami Herald campaigns against it for who knows what reasons. The Herald is an outdated rag and if their editorial board had their way, Miami wouldn’t have any buildings higher than 10 stories.

Anonymous
14 days ago

Southeast Financial Center goes up to 57 stories bro. It was built in 1984.

Anonymous
14 days ago

It’s time to take down the Herald. This outdated joke of a journalistic entity has not only totally lost the beat of Miami but also has no idea how to stay relevant and modern in today’s media landscape. Miami deserves a better news outlet.

Anonymous
15 days ago

This is why they should tax churches

Anonymous
15 days ago

The church owes taxes from the food trucks for years which is why they need to develop the site.

Anonymous
15 days ago

IKR, f**k the Constitution and it’s allowance for self-defense with firearms and requirement that States have to formally pass laws to govern how elections are conducted too!

Anonymous
14 days ago

The Herald needs to report news. No one cares or agrees with their opinions.

Anonymous
15 days ago

Wtf

Anonymous
14 days ago

Why does the Herald have an opinion on the matter, they sold their land to a developer with the intent of building a casino for big profits.

Anonymous
13 days ago

I guess they don’t know the meaning of the word “HYPOCRITE.”

Anonymous
15 days ago

very phallic building. veins and all

Anonymous
14 days ago

Love veiny ones

bob
15 days ago

Build it. And ignore Newtons Law

Anonymous
15 days ago

Putting aside the silly protection of food trucks, which I’m sure the local restaurants are thrilled about, and the absurd notion that a private parking lot is somehow public space, if the Presbyterians and 13th Floor ran a ham-handed process then by all means there should be a reconsideration of the vote.

The thing that bothers me about the arrangement is the conditional nature of the payments to the church extending out 5 years, and whether the congregants are fully aware of the degree of development risk they are taking on? The reported structure of the purchase essentially makes the church a “partner” in the development, which in my mind is completely inappropriate with its charitable mission. If the property is to be sold it should be by transparent bid in accordance with a clear RFP, and with payment on a purely cash basis. The church will certainly get better results than with this 5 year conditional payment scheme!

Anonymous
15 days ago

Very unlikely to be true. The church would definitely receive a lower NPV in that scenario than by taking the risk and receiving what I believe is 15% of condo sales revenue. The risk is well worth the reward in this case. Also, the church would be receiving roughly $50mm upfront which is a large endowment by itself. This is a church not even holding in-person services currently.

Anonymous
15 days ago

Look, I can see complaing about something if the voting was rigged but it wasn’t. A 68-42 outcome shows that more than 100 church members casted their vote. This shows that it’s not about something being fair and square, it’s about whining about something to get your way.

FAR
14 days ago

To those of you who don’t understand how taxes work. If you owe $7 million in taxes, it’s because you made $28M in profits from the food trucks (assuming an effective tax rate of 25%).

So unless they’re giving themselves ridiculous bonuses or blowing it at E11EVEN. They should still have plenty with or without this deal.