Report: Beckham And UM Working On A Stadium Next To Marlins Park, With A New Metromover Loop

Major League Soccer, the University of Miami, and Dade County officials could soon announce plans for a 40,000-seat soccer stadium next to Marlins Stadium, including a Metromover loop to the site, Southern Legion is reporting.

Dade commissioner Bruno Barreiro will soon release a plan to extend the Metromover, Southern Legion said. The new loop would extend west from Government Center through a densely populated area, before turning north to a new stop between Marlins Stadium and the new soccer stadium. The plan is said to have strong support from both commissioners and residents.

How much would it cost for a new Metromover loop? Dade recently built the the 1.2-mile MIA Mover, a similar elevated light-rail system, for $270 million, including the cost to acquire trains. A new line to Marlins Stadium would be nearly 2 miles.

Joint negotiations between UM and Beckham’s camp over the shared stadium went well, Southern Legion says, and an announcement is expected within weeks.

Beckham’s wife was also spotted in the Design District earlier this week looking at blueprints.

 

 

 

 

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Anonymous
6 years ago

Yes finally a transit expansion.

Oscar
6 years ago

There’s obviously need for transit well beyond the scope of this proposal. That being said, this would be great.

Urban Planner
6 years ago

Thank you Oscar for putting this into perspective. Nobody is saying that this is the most important transit expansion. There is no doubt that Baylink to the Beach and MetroMover to Wynwood/Design District would be more beneficial. I just don’t understand how people see increased rail transportation as a negative thing, especially one that goes between 2 major sports stadiums and Miami Central Station in the urban core. This is exactly the place where public transportation needs to be improved.

Sharif
6 years ago

True, we do need a better mass transit system with more connections, however, piecemeal transit expansion is not the way to go, we need coherent long term growth strategies, connecting all areas of the city, not a collection of confusing loops.

Andres
6 years ago

Not sure why people are suggesting that this MetroMover line would be useful only to sports fans. Little Havana is one of the most densely populated areas of Miami — the 33130 zip code, which this line would run through and includes most of East Little Havana, has a population density of almost 21,000 per square mile. Meanwhile, the 33137 zip code, which covers Edgewater, has a density of only about 9,000 per square mile. (To be fair: the 33130 figure includes a sliver of Brickell, but not the bulk of it.)

This line is exactly the type of useful transit expansion that our city needs to start with, because it actually serves residents with real transportation needs. The buses down Flagler and 8th into and out of downtown are always packed. Real, working class people live in East Little Havana and would use this line at a much higher rate than people living in luxury high rises in Edgewater and Midtown. People in this neighborhood are very likely to walk to a station and use transit for everyday needs.

The fact that its development is being spurred by a sports project isn’t really that important to me — if anything, it’s a bonus that MLS, MLB, and college football fans would add even more ridership at off-peak times. I think this proposal is one of the best ideas to come out of Miami-Dade in a long time (which means it’ll probably never happen).

Gables
6 years ago

I agree with Andres. This is such a great thing. I don’t give a care where the soccer stadium is built, but when considering a location, it is important to think about the larger community impact. Adding new transit service to East Little Havana would be very beneficial to Miami in general and help fans get to games. Plus, the already built garages for the Marlins could be used for soccer fans who drive. Thus, this site has a huge advantage over any site in Overtown, Wynwood, or Edgewater. I really, really want this to happen. Perhaps Beckham and his investors can somehow get a public-private partnership going to get MetroMover expansion fast-tracked.

Anonymous
6 years ago

Oh, and what about BayLink? That would actually serve a purpose outside of filling empty stadiums and promises.

Marc305
6 years ago

My biggest concern is that they will promise to expand the Metromover, the stadium will be built, and no expansion will be built due to some law suit or lack of funds or some tax problems or something. I just do not trust the politicians in this town, period!

marc
6 years ago

This is my concern too. When it comes to transit you can’t trust these politicians. It’d be reassuring if the mover had to be in place by the stadiums opening day for this deal to happen.

Anonymous
6 years ago

Well, you guys are definitely…on the marc

Miabroker305
6 years ago

Hopefully there will be at least two stops to help grow the west brickell area.

Where’s bay link btw?

Anonymous
6 years ago

This line will not go through west brickell. West Brickell is east of 95 and west of the metrorail tracks to the south of this map.

Miabroker305
6 years ago

I ment to say “west brickell”. Its the name given because of upcoming gentrification.

Anonymous
6 years ago

Well please stop using that term, it has become offense to those of us who appreciate the name Little Havana and embrace it as the branding for our neighbourhood.

Anonymous
6 years ago

He can use whatever term he wants. Just because this country gave you and your people easy access coming to and being here doesn’t make you now LORD and MASTER of any area in Miami and the other races here must bow down to YOU and be scared to say anything that may, what you think, be offensive to YOU.

375225462676895
6 years ago

I prefer the over town location much better since in the downtown core and it’s already next to all the major transportation including all aboard Florida plus they should focus on building Baylink before expanding west on the Metro mover

suomynona
6 years ago

I agree. That Overtown location was PERFECT (aside from not being on the water, but that wasn’t realistic). Substantially better than this Marlins’ location.

It won’t have a single view of downtown if it’s built on the west side of the current stadium (ie, no feeling of “connectivity”), and I honesty don’t see how there’s enough space to build a nice stadium on the available property. The track at BTW HS would barely even fit on that land.

I would go to games at the Overtown location. I was actually looking forward to ANY downtown site that was privately funded or voter approved. In the coming years there will be plenty of pre/post-game options for that part of town. That just doesn’t exist at the Marlins’ location.

That said, it’d be great to have a metrorail spur heading west from downtown. Hitting up Marlins stadium only makes sense, even if nobody gives a crap about the Marlins. Hopefully it would expand out west to FIU a few short years later.

And lastly, I find it funny that Canes fans think this would be a great move for them. Off the top of my head, I can’t think of a single team that’s won a national title in the last 75 years that currently plays at a 40,000-seat stadium. It’s basically admitting you’re no longer a top tier football program. I get that it’d be closer to campus, but it’d also be smaller than UCF’s stadium and only 15,000 more than FIU’s.

Anonymous
6 years ago

So we have to build a stadium to get extended rail ? Miami Beach and Doral please build stadiums then you will get the metrorail.

Fredric
6 years ago

I think it’s great that there is serious discussion about expanding the metromover, even if the route being discussed has not heretofore been considered to be an optimal one.

Just getting county and city government officials into the mode of expanding rail transit is a hugely positive step. The Baylink project will be coming soon as well and then maybe, just maybe a 3P (Public-Private Partnership) can and will be formed to gather the necessary funds for a major expansion of the Metrorail and then that will finally start happening as well.

Like it or not, Miami simply must have and desperately needs greatly expanded public transit, most especially rail transit. And I am also happy to see that the long-proposed Beckham soccer stadium/team deal may finally be coming to fruition. The location seems like a good one too and there isn’t much sense now in arguing that it should be in Overtown instead, or wherever. If Beckham and UM have come to an agreement for shared costs and revenue, etc, then more than likely this will benefit many in the community and the area as a whole. It’s all good in my view.

Gables
6 years ago

I agree with Fredric that any talk of expanding transit is a huge step forward for our elected officials. This area of East Little Havana is fairly densely populated and would likely use this new MetroMover route. Engaging in talks of expanding rail transit, would perhaps motivate officials to extend MetroMover in other directions as well (e.g., a route on Miami Avenue north to Midtown). Because of this news, I am officially in support of the stadium deal and I sincerely hope this goes through.

Anonymous
6 years ago

This would be great for Hurricane fans!!! Much better than Dolphin Stadium!

Anonymous
6 years ago

$500 million for Hurricane fans. Thanks, MDT

Really???
6 years ago

I agree that this expanding of the metromover would be great for the area. For one it helps to correct the Marlin stadium blunder of not being near transit. But most importantly this would be great for Little Havana. It would essentially tap into the value of downtown/Brickell and extend it out creating a very affordable option for working residents of Miami.

This would completely open up Little Havana. You could essentially have condos in with a few cool local options that have a good mom and pop vibe that you could walk to while also being able to walk to a metromover location, hop on and get off at City Center or World Center.

Forget how dense the area is now, this area would would explode in growth.

Yet Another Anonymous
6 years ago

Actually it would probably end up with less density since the smallish condos would have larger units and less people packed in per unit. I think the zoning and the people of LH are against high rises and large dense buildings. They just mexipack small ones instead because somehow that’s better…

Really???
6 years ago

Along Flagler it’s already zoned T6-12 which can get you up to 20 stories. Flagler is currently primarily single story retail without much residential.

So were talking about a mile long stretch that would go from practically no residential to at least an average of 15 stories (probably more as developers always find a way).

Once you go south or north of Flagler you get some of the more densely packed low rise stuff but again, you simply can’t fit enough people into a 3 story unit to somehow me more than a 12 – 20 story building when the density allowed is 150/units per acre.

The area they have been fighting has been along Calle Ocho where they want to up zone to 5 stories and 65 units per acre. This area is already zoned way above that.

And keep in mind Intown Condo is currently under construction on Calle Ocho which is probably 15 stories

Kramer
6 years ago

Ha Ha. You have to love how people here love playing monopoly with OPM (other people’s money).

Anonymous
6 years ago

This area’s considered “heavily populated”? What about all of the units in Edgewater and Midtown? What about the Design District? What market does this actually serve–“West Brickell” in about 10 years? This city has transportation all screwed up.

Anonymous
6 years ago

Beckham and his partners are playing taxpayers for fools. It’s clear they only want to bring a team here if they can make money off the development

Anonymous
6 years ago

Awesome for my canes! Finally can go to games without driving to east bum sun life. Clearly those complaining aren’t hurricane fans or lack the understanding what effect this will have on the area in terms of college football presence

Anonymous
6 years ago

Or they’re aware there are needs greater than college football?

Eddy
6 years ago

It would be optimal if they could continue the new MetorMover loop a few more blocks and connect the northern end to the Civic Center MetorRail station. Hopefully someone in the planning stage will also push for this.

marc
6 years ago

That would make complete sense.

Alex
6 years ago

this spot is TERRIBLE. the overtown spot is far better. I don’t believe Southern Legion has Miami’s best interests in mind. I think they are being paid by outside forces probably related to the marlins organization. FURTHERMORE, there is no one on record suggesting this metromover expansion. it has not been discussed EVER in any official meetings. therefore, it will take at least 10 years if ever. put the stadium in wynwood/edgewater or overtown or start buying some private land with UM in places where people actually want to go to to enjoy a game HINT: It’s not marlins park.

marc
6 years ago

Barreiro proposed the metro mover in a commission meeting when they were talking about suggesting the Marlins site.

Anonymous
6 years ago

Seriously though, they should put this in the Arts & Entertainment District north of downtown, perhaps where the Bayview Marketplace site is. They could partner with the developer that recently purchased that land to create a “Stadium Village” around the football/soccer stadium with hotels, retail, apartments, condo, etc.

Anonymous
6 years ago

I agree with that. They could also buy land from school board that they have up for sale.

Daniel
6 years ago

Why everyone is “Bitch…ing” about it, public transportation is mostly used by low income families, People from Little Havana fits in this category generally speaking, Miami needs to growth up but it will do it slowly…. if you want to live in a city like London with a 2000 years please Go …. Miami has a little more than 100 years …..and has no Petroleum like Dubai or others ones….Get over !!!!!!

Anonymous
6 years ago

“Miami needs to growth up but it will do it slowly…. if you want to live in a city like London with a 2000 years please Go …. Miami has a little more than 100 years …..and has no Petroleum like Dubai or others ones….Get over !!!!!!”

Uh, what?

375225462676895
6 years ago

I prefer location they had for over town better it’s in the downtown core like they want and it’s already next major transportmajor including all aboard Florida also the Miami innovation district will be across from it. Perhaps the city should focus on building Baylink before building a loop to support Stadium. not to mention how long would it take Government Center to get to the stadium if L already takes 30 minutes plus to get from Omni to Brickell on the mover.

Anonymous
6 years ago

Please repeat this in terms that REAL HUMANS can understand.

Anonymous
6 years ago

where was the Overtown spot?

marc
6 years ago

There really isn’t one. Delusional people believe the Beckham group could amass enough private lots in the area to build a stadium there or take a couple city or county owned projects without nary a word of from activists in that particular area.

Anonymous
6 years ago

Miami-Dade already did a study on extending the Metromover to Marlins Park. It estimated that it would cost would be $520M.

WhyNotNow
6 years ago

It’s ok to spend $600 million for a 1.5 mile lane on 836, but not a mass transit project?

MiamiNights
6 years ago

Bruno Barreiro distract also contains South Beach and ignores BaylInk. Clearly Beckham greased this guys paws.

marc
6 years ago

Baylink is still in play and involves more than just a particular district in the city of Miami.

MiamiNights
6 years ago

Bruno Barreiro is a COUNTY commissioner and his district covers the entire proposed baylink route.

marc
6 years ago

All of Little Havana is his district as well and doesn’t mean he’s not for the Baylink along with the other officials pushing for a line to the beach.

Gared
6 years ago

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Gared
6 years ago

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Gables
6 years ago

Marc305 has a good point. Politicians cannot be trusted as they have repeatedly promised and not delivered, especially when it concerns transit. However, media reports indicated that Beckham and his investors want the stadium close to public transit. Therefore, I would think this MetroMover expansion has a better chance of actually happening. If Beckham says transit is a requirement, the politicians will find a way. We know the politicians love catering to big names and sports teams.

Marc305
6 years ago

Not in the case of Beckham and company, my guess is because these politicians are used to being “greased” from the get go and they have not been getting their do from Beck’s camp. If the stadium gets build with the promise of a Metromover expansion, and the stadium is completed built before the Metrorail, remember this post because it will not be built. If they start at the same time, there is still a chance it will not be completed, the only way it will happen is if the expansion starts first and it is 80 to 90% finished before there is one brick on the stadium.

Anonymous
6 years ago

Why can’t FDOT subsidize mass transit in Miami? They unnecessarily pave the highways over and over and neglect to allocate funding to useful projects…

DARRELL DUNLAP
6 years ago

THE BROWARD COUNTY COMMISSIONERS NEEDS TO BUILD A METROMOVER LIKE TRANSIT SYSTEM FROM THE FORT LAUDERDALE AIRPORT TO PORT EVERGLADES. BROWARD COUNTY MOVES TOO DAM SLOW…MIA IS BEAUTIFUL AND FTL COULD BE JUS AS WELL BUT DO NOT HAVE A VIABLE TRANSIT SYSTEM LINKING THE TWO MONEY MAKERS…STEP UP BROWARD COUNTY…

Kramer
6 years ago

Great idea – But But But ONLY if Um and MLS and Beckham pay for the MetroMover. Otherwise this a Marlins Park like giveaway as the MetroMovers only purpose is to serve the two stadiums !

Anonymous
6 years ago

Not a fan of this at all.