South Dade Rapid Transit System Now Underway After A Miami-Dade Vote This Week To Move Forward

Miami-Dade’s Transportation Department said this week that a contractor has been given approval to begin work immediately on a bus rapid transit system to South Dade, according to the Herald.

Design work will begin right away, with construction expected later this year.

Service is expected to begin in 2023.

Earlier this week, county commissioners voted to approve a $22 million contract for engineering firm HNTB Corp. to oversee the project.

The $368 million project will include 14 air conditioned stations that are designed to be able to convert to train stations when ridership meets certain targets.

It will run 20 miles, starting at Dadeland and ending at SW 344th Street.

An exclusive right of way will be provided to the buses, enforced with gates that will close through streets when busses are passing.

Commissioner Kionne McGhee said he has dropped his opposition to the system.

Federal funding was provided for the project.

A second Bus Rapid Transit project, the east-west corridor, is expected to be granted federal funding in summer 2021, commissioner Eileen Higgins told the paper.

 

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Anonymous
2 months ago

At least a start, but a train would be better…

Anonymous
2 months ago

We had the old FEC rails, but the busitutes dug them up. If the area grows to warrant rail for transit, the R-O-W is already in place. Until then, extend MetroRAIL to Miami Beach, finish Coastal Link, and consider a Tri-Rail line from Hialeah Market into Kendall.

Anonymous
2 months ago

No matter how nice the stations look, you’re still catching a BUS.

Anonymous
2 months ago

Yes indeed

Anonymous
2 months ago

Suspect many of the naysayers rarely, if ever, step foot onto public transit. Most probably don’t even know there is an existing busway in south date complete with signal priority along it’s route. I for one, welcome this arrival.

Anonymous
2 months ago

Exactly, people who don’t ride transit like to dream of the perfect system. But if you ride the bus you know, this is a huge improvement and it’ll be done in my lifetime.

Bryan Riley
2 months ago

As a long time rider, I can appreciate any improvement. But 15-20 years for upgraded bus and stations. We are so used to the disfunction we will take anything. That’s the problem.

Bryan Riley
2 months ago

Rode the bus and bicycled from Goulds to University of Miami for 5 years. After late classes a I would often bicycle the 13 miles from Dadeland South back home. You can beat the bus with a bicycle. You would be surprised how diverse the naysayers are.

This plan is an upgrade for stations and busses. That’s welcome and I guess some of the neglected are happy because, hey at least we are getting something mentality. The crossing gates at the intersections and the transfer to metro rail experience is not a good enough upgrade. We could have had this implementation 15 years ago. We waited that long for 100 million FROM the feds. How many years of taxes? At some point we have to stop falling behind with marginal upgrades that lead to the same issues. We will hear about how this set us back in 10-15 years when every corridor has BRT and yet we will commission new studies on how to increase transit usage and how it’s not working. Leaving us wondering where we get the money and pointing fingers.

Anonymous
2 months ago

No buses thanks. Extend the metromover to EVERYWHERE

Anonymous
2 months ago

I think you mean the metro rail?

Azarius
2 months ago

I really hate that our elected officials have no balls to push for more revolutionary approach to the problems of our city/county

Redland Tim
2 months ago

Pray tell explain what you write of!

Anonymous
2 months ago

I downvote any posts that include the phrase “Pray tell”.

Anonymous
2 months ago

Heavy heavy population in South Dade.. To bad MetroRail could not be extended.

Anonymous
2 months ago

Extend Metrorail to dense areas like Miami Beach, Doral, and FIU.

Anonymous
2 months ago

Doral????

Anonymous
2 months ago

The residents of Miami Beach will never accept Metrorail because it’s too big and noisy. But the Metromover is quiet because it’s smaller and it rides on rubber tires.

Anonymous
2 months ago

If they built it underground then maybe they would

Anonymous
2 months ago

Again, due to MiamiDade having such a high water table, that makes the idea of tunnels very expensive.

Anonymous
2 months ago

Bahahaha there’s already a lot of noise in Miami Beach. What’s some “clunk clunk clunk” noises going to hurt much? Besides, most of the older Budd cars from the 80s have been replaced with newer cars that make less noise.

Bryan Riley
2 months ago

The crossings at intersections will be a problem. Major west-east arteries to US1 will be a disaster. Someone has to stop and wait. The key is how many light cycles. 1 bus can’t carry the same capacity as 1 train. So will busses line up to cross at once. We currently have bus bunching on the transit way. The current spacing strategy is hard to understand. I look forward to seeing how often the intersection crossings deploy. There are alot. Also, many BRT riders will be using cars to park and ride. Many have to cross these intersections to the west side of US1. Most of the parking infrastructure is setup on the West.

Hopefully we get a competent system. A express bus that is ran in sync like a world class transit system. Never waiting at lights or behind other busses etc for crossings. I’m just not sure with the track record for MDT. Mostly likey the busses and stations will look good but everything else will be a miss. Like most things in Miami.

It’s clear, everyone is getting bus. All corridors. Just come out and say it. Jump all in. BRT stations in highways etc. It’s happening on all corridors, unless a private company can get a good deal (brightline, genting-monorail) South Dade will be the poster child for BRT.

Anonymous
2 months ago

Great news!

Anonymous
2 months ago

Seems backwards to make stations that can eventually be converted rather than just… making them metrorail extensions.

BDub
2 months ago

The promise is conversion to rail once daily ridership averages 35,000.

Bryan Riley
2 months ago

Promises are worthless. Especially with Mass Transit and Miami Dade. Our government representatives even said as much. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Anonymous
2 months ago

Averages! You and I know this is not happening anytime in our lifetime, if ever. That is simply their way getting around the issue, while fooling the public. Even, through some miracle, they achieved those numbers, they will concoct excuses as to why it can’t be done, or slowing down the process with studies, lack of finances etc. that will take years to resolve, if ever.

Yet Another Anonymous
2 months ago

Conversion to light rail…

Anonymous
2 months ago

And why? We already have Metrorail which is actually a heavy rail platform. No need to convert to something else when the system is already there.

Bryan Riley
2 months ago

Only sweetheart deals are allowed. Those making proposals will offer their own third party solution, which is usually a different mobility mode. Ie. Monorail.

Anonymous
2 months ago

If money grew on trees.

Jesus
2 months ago

Better than nothing but I’m pretty sure traffic is not going to improve. That area keeps developing and they’re going to have to rebuild the stations to rail. They should just issue bonds and get that built. Great return on investment.

Anonymous
2 months ago

Transit oriented development is the answer. And at least with these stations, there will be nodes of density that weren’t there before which could then foster the upgrade to LRT or HRT

Bryan Riley
2 months ago

Most of the stations you see in the renderings are existing park and rides. I have not seen enough of the planning around these areas in regards to conversion to heavy rail. Basically, if the goal is heavy rail, we have to plan and build that way now before the density increases and impeads parts of that plan. But hey, it’s a “Smart” plan.

Anonymous
2 months ago

Dumb plan you say?

Anonymous
2 months ago

I reviewed the plan and heard the pros and cons presented from heavy rail advocates and the BRT advocates. The bottom line is, that if the “application” for Federal Funding asked for rail money based current ridership and projected ridership, the Feds would give $0. Rejected. Nada. nothing.
IF, however, the application was for less money and a BRT plan, the odds of approval were high, and we could make the stations special enough to increase ridership, and be convertible in the days where that ridership would improve. So we chose to support the BRT plan…and the Feds sent lots of money.
The vote went the right way. Have some faith that the politicians did the right thing this time.

Bryan Riley
2 months ago

The conversion is not well thought out. At grade rail will be tough for this corridor because of the amount of crossings. US1 is the only major N-S road. Basically we are getting some money from the feds and state for comestic upgrades and stations that may or may not be compatible with an end goal solution. No one knows what that goal is. It’s not defined with a Master Plan. It’s more of a reactionary planning style. Not great for city planning. If the Smart plan advocated metro rail for each corridor, we could implement that plan in phases.

100 million is alot but I’ve seen the county come up with equal monies for other projects. Those projects also didn’t have a direct tax to fund said project.

Hard to have faith in politicians when they tell you to forget promises made. Then turn around and tell you to have faith and “we promise”

Anonymous
2 months ago

More places for the homeless community to sleep

Anonymous
2 months ago

Finally

Anonymous
2 months ago

Give up on buses. Nobody wants buses. Extend the metromover. This isn’t 1980!

Anonymous
2 months ago

Yes but metro Mover is 1980

Anonymous
2 months ago

pork barrel projects to funnel some money to a somebodies tio,who owns the construction company…..the metrorail stations are almost all outdoors with no a.c. why blow the money on this??? and why cant miami come up with the matching money for federal funds to build the light rail?????

Bryan Riley
2 months ago

Same thing with the bridge. There was an easy pathway to some funds. So let’s build something that makes it seem like we are progressing in our long neglected transportation plan. Never mind it being compatable or logical with our long term vision and growth. Let’s just do something in our lifetimes. 10-15 years later. Why did we do this? We should have done this? Politician- “What’s done is done, Forget the promises”

Anonymous
2 months ago

Metrorail is what should be extended. It appears Com. Kionne McGhee is the only commissioner with the nads to stand up for what’s right. Too bad he changed course to side with buses.

Anonymous
2 months ago

Will the metro rail extension be at grade level? Those Stations seem mighty low to fit elevated rail in their. That would be a shame

Anonymous
2 months ago

IF Metrorail ever gets built through there, then yes they should fit through those just fine.

Anonymous
2 months ago

The Metrorail would run along ground level. There would be no need to elevate it if it could just run along the bus way.

Anonymous
2 months ago

Are there rail tracks already along the route?

Paul
2 months ago

Metrorail has an electrified 3rd rail so it can’t run at-grade unless it is completely fenced off (like the portion going from Viscaya to Brickell). Best case for at-grade along this corridor would be Tri-Rail.

Anonymous
2 months ago

You’re telling me they can’t run Metrorail on ground-level track? Interesting…

Anonymous
2 months ago

If there are tracks already in place then wouldn’t it be cheaper to use metrorail cars?

Anonymous
2 months ago

That’s kind of the whole point. I think there are some FEC tracks along or near the South Dade Bus way route but they would have to run new track along the bus way with a third rail to run Metrorail. There would be no need to put in on an elevated platform if they could just run it along ground surface. Of course they would have to leverage a “riser” track to connect to the Dadeland station. Not a big deal though.

Anonymous
2 months ago

It’s possible to run an electrified third rail at ground level along the Transitway. The short breaks crossing an intersection wouldn’t stop a train, especially a modern one with battery backup. True, additional security measures would be needed, like fencing, but it’s not dramatic enough to say we should only look at diesel trains.

Metrorail trains could also be converted to dual mode with overhead catenary. Again, not a giant problem.

Anonymous
2 months ago

So with the fencing involved, are there concerns of people jumping on the tracks and getting electrocuted ?

Anonymous
2 months ago

what about light rail instead of metrorail heavy rail????

Anonymous
2 months ago

Metromover could be extended to Homestead

Anonymous
2 months ago

This will only work with more Very Express Bus service and land-side turnstyles so pax can board all at once. Otherwise, it’s just a more expensive Bus Way.

Anonymous
2 months ago

1000% Guaranty these will never be train stations and Miami will say they need to be demolished either way. More jobs to foreign companies America last, Miami is a banana republic

Anonymous
2 months ago

….Federal funds were granted ..”

Yes, by Trump

“… In a tweet, Trump announces $100M grant for South Dade’s rapid-transit bus system”

Miami Herald

Anonymous
2 months ago

It’s not as if it was he, singlehandedly, who granted the $100M out of the goodness of his heart.

Realist
2 months ago

folks, this whole “move to miami” lunacy is over, bloomberg ran a great article on the subjcct today, google “Young and Ambitious? Move to New York, Not Austin” Lets get real, we did get something out of this temporary phenomenom, Biden isnt raising taxes, NYC and CA will be back huge very soon once corona is over.

brickell1
2 months ago

shut up man let them at least build up downtown, it can stay empty but it will make for great skyline…

coronadrinker
2 months ago

yup, all the tech that was going to come, came.. we got few Indian style call centers masqued as tech centers… lets at least finish the worldcenter, rents will be down 30% will all of that inventory not to mention purchase prices. I do dig that singapore like pool however, rooting that one one..

Anonymous
2 months ago

Self proclaimed Socialist Sanders is the new Chairman of the Senate Finance committee and you think Biden will not raise taxes?

Realist
2 months ago

nope, economy is going to sh.. t as it is, no way he is raising anything

Anonymous
2 months ago

How are they going to pay for their Green New Deal to give Mickey Mouse job to every displaced worker because coronavirus and killing energy independence?

ups
2 months ago

MMT so called modern monetary theory, basically just print it… like Japan did for 30 yrs… during that time nothing went up, just a dead period, we came to that as well, thank presidente Obama for taking us on that path in 08, should have cleansed everything then.

Anonymous
2 months ago

NY will recover to a certain degree but it won’t be what it was before covi-19, crime is out of control police are arresting more criminals but the justice system is corrupt and they release these criminals quickly and the next day they are out on the streets comitting crimes again.so rents may be cheaper now but if they don’t clean up the justice system and get tough on these criminals, people and businesses will continue to leave NY even if rents are cheap

pnk
2 months ago

bottom line is this, when you are 22 and super smart you arent coming to miami, when you are 45 or 65 drive a ferrari and want to screw some russian models you might come for the winter. That is reality 101 in South Florida. without these smart 22 yr olds nothing is going to grow, and UM or FIU arent ever graduating the caliber we need for “world class”

Anonymous
2 months ago

Miami has been growing without those ”supersmart” 22 year olds

Anonymous
2 months ago

everybody is growing if you havent noticed, to be world class as some brokers are calling miami LOL you need world class talent, sorry bro but that aint happening in Miami

Anonymous
2 months ago

Are you on drugs or something?

NYC Transplant
2 months ago

New York’s problems began well before Covid. The city was blessed by five consecutive terms of competent mayoralty ending with the election of DeBlasio. There was divided state government which prevented harmful legislation until Nov 2018. Without divided government, rent laws have been strengthened making development more difficult, “bail-reform” has meant that even violent criminals are turned right back on the streets after arrest, and the old fiscal moderation is gone. There is no adult governance on the horizon for Gotham. Miami and other cities not governed by ideologues have a long window. New York has amazing infrastructure, but until a financial control board takes over and people start voting with safety and economic development in mind, NYC isn’t bouncing.

Anonymous
2 months ago

Well if you read it on the internet then it must be true.

Anonymous
2 months ago

“… Biden isnt raising taxes, ..”

——
Yeah right — blue states are doomed and so will America under these woke looneys that you seem to be a part of