This 633-Unit Arquitectonica Project Will Promote Metrorail Ridership, Developer Says

A multifamily project designed to promote Metrorail ridership has been proposed at 650 NW 8th Street.

The eight story project is to be called River Central. It will include 839,594 square feet of floor area, with 633 residential units and a small amount of ground floor retail. It is also proposed to include 656 parking spaces – fewer than required by code, due to the project being located a quarter of a mile away from the Culmer Metrorail station (a waiver will be needed.) The Miami River is also a short walk away.

Miami’s UDRB is set to review the plans next week.

Windsor Capital Corporation, led by Roland DiGasbarro, is the developer. Windsor has invested in $3 billion worth of real estate since being founded in 2003. DiGasbarro is a board member of Professional Bank and a former investment banker at Lehman Brothers.

 

 

 

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Really???
6 years ago

Wow a lot of people here are pretty jaded. This project is a 5 minute walk from the metrorail which even in its limited form will get you to downtown, Brickell, Merrick Park, Sunset, Dadeland, etc. This is exactly the type of worker friendly affordable projects Miami needs. Imagine you work in downtown/Brickell and don’t have the $$$ for all of the premium condos. You can rent here for probably hundreds less and simply walk 5 min to the metro and ride in. Heck if your a young professional couple you can probably also get buy with only one car. So now your are saving let’s say $600 a month and still have the ability to work/play in downtown/Brickell.

We should absolutely be trying to expand the metro system but that is only one piece of the puzzle. Even if we expand the service of metrorail we need to be building more transit oriented developments to make the system more efficient.

At the end of the day the metrorail already serves a decent number of communities that simply need to be more developed around those stations. You have Downtown, Brickell, Coconut grove, Sunset and Dadeland.

The Brickell station is already fine especially with City Center soon to be a 5 min walk away. The Downtown station is already planned with All Aboard Florida and World Center. The Coconut Grove station needs work but is getting a few new residential buildings nearby. They need to develop that intersection at US-1 with mixed use buildings and better retail on the ground floor as well as some trolley system into Cocowalk. The Douglas station is already developing a lot of new residential and has Merrick Park. If they develop that into a nice mixed use retail village in-between the station and residential over to Merrick park that will be a nice center. Sunset place is starting to come back and with more residential and better accommodations for pedestrians it could be nice as well. And then last the 2 stops at Dadeland are both getting a lot of additions with downtown Dadeland coming along nicely.

Once those areas develop into nice hubs of their own at that point the big outliers will be Midtown, Wynwood, Edgewater and South Beach. But the reality is that the major employment center is downtown/Brickell so as long as you can get back and forth to there you could always Uber to places like Wynwood when you want to hang out.

Danny
6 years ago

5 min walk? Who will at night around that area home? There was an AK47 shooting just two years ago down that street which killed multiple people.

This is great for development of that area but let’s not try to sell that it’s a wonderful 5 min walk to the metro-rail.

marc
6 years ago

The area is still a ways from being ideal but it certainly has slowly changed for the better in the last 5 years or so with all the midrises sprouting there.

Danny
6 years ago

I agree completely.

Really???
6 years ago

Are you serious. You are talking about a shooting 2 years ago??? A 41 year old guy just got shot in Wynwood last Saturday.

This is how gentrification works. Once one buildings goes in the rest will follow. And were talking about a large building with 633 units taking up a large piece of blighted land. This project is basically the size of 2 – 3 typical garden style apartments going up at the same time. Not to mention Spring Garden the neighborhood to the west is getting better by the minute. Then you have Sea Spice and Garcias to the south along the river with multi million dollar yachts pulling up dropping people off.

If they started this project by the time the first shovel goes in the ground developers would have already started plans for surrounding lots.

marc
6 years ago

The only negative I see from this particular project is they mention it only has a small amount of ground floor retail.

Danny
6 years ago

Buddy, they are selling the metrorail system as a big deal and guess what, it is not that close to the metrorail like Downtown Dadeland or UM.

I would have pushed the whole Medical District much more.

Don’t get your feelings in a bunch. No where in my statement mentioned anything related to your 2nd and 3rd paragraph.

marc
6 years ago

It’s literally 3 1/2 blocks from Culmer. It may not be outside or across the building but it is close to a metro rail stop. Not every subway or train station in NYC is 10 steps away from everyone’s front door. In a city like Miami with garbage mass transit, having a train station 3 blocks away IS a selling point.

Really???
6 years ago

It’s one thing to have an opinion. We can disagree on whether you personally would like to live here over someone else. But you seem to be veering off into ridiculous land where you don’t know what you are talking about.

I went to UM, lived in Brickell and rode the metrorail back and forth every day for 2 years. It’s a longer walk from the center of campus where I spent most of my time, (business school, Rathskeller, food court, etc.) to the metrorail which is probably a 10 min walk, than to walk the 3 1/2 blocks to Culmer from this site which is about 5 min.

As to my other paragraphs I think it was pretty obvious that my point was that if this project starts a) you will have 700+ more people in the area making it better and b) more projects would follow suit making the area better as well.

Also the next stop west on the metrorail is the medical district. Which is why highlighting the 5 min away metrorail is important. It connects you to a lot of other places.

Anonymous
6 years ago

Don’t be so scared

Kesley
6 years ago

We have to start somewhere! Locals need something like this so we aren’t priced so far away from these areas we have to live all the way in Kendall, and areas that are close by are slums.

Anonymous
6 years ago

You will always have crime. If it bothers you so much move into a bubble. Or at least out of Miami.

Anonymous
6 years ago

Obviously, as more people and businesses move in, the neighbourhood improves. Ever heard of gentrification? Ever wonder how South Beach came back from the 1980’s ghetto days?

Really.
6 years ago

No, expanding the metro is the whole puzzle, or at least the majority of it- not one piece. Take a look at the map of our metro, which consists of two lines that share mostly the same stops. Then, take a look at every other major city’s metro. We don’t build communities around subway stations; subway stations and metro stops form along busy routes to alleviate congestion. Your logic that we should build communities around stations does not follow. If that was the case we would expand metrorail out to the everglades and build a large community their just so we don’t have to do additional work to the transit system.

Even then, we have vibrant, upcoming communities, (Wynwood, Edgewater, South Beach, Design District), that have no stops whatsoever.

Anonymous
6 years ago

“Your logic that we should build communities around stations does not follow.”

His logic does follow. If you’ve lived in Miami long enough, then you should know that the Metrorail was built with stations in areas with sparse or uninteresting development near them. People complained for years that the Metrorail went nowhere, and most of all it was very limited in taking people back and forth from home. That is also due to the east – west spur of the Metrorail getting shelved. This makes for doing things backwards in Miami and now developments like this are now being given incentives (like less parking spaces) to build near metrorail stops.

Really.
6 years ago

I’m definitely not saying that building a metro line up and down the coast when there would be obvious development was a bad idea. What I’m saying is we should not tailor to where stations are. Development is happening in locals where there is no adequate transit, and your and OP’s point do not address that problem.

Really???
6 years ago

Right now the vast majority of development is happening:

Brickell – Metrorail (by far most development)
Downtown – Metrorail
Edgewater – No Metrorail
Coral Gables – Metrorail (most development near Douglas Station)
Dadeland – Metrorail
South Beach – No Metrorail

Right now about 75% of development is happening near an existing metrorail location.

Again I would love to see metrorail expanded. But that is a huge political issue that at the very least is going to take 10+ years even if politicians were serious about it today. However in the same amount of time we should be focusing on building new units near existing transit infrastructure.

Gared
6 years ago

There is an existing rail system ,but it seems nobody in this town is interested.Some of it is still used by FEC to haul the rocks.Goes all the way out west to the rock pits and all the way,down to the Florida city,some rails ripped out,but the right of the way is still there.Ludlam trail is the part of it and the busway that South Miami mayor doesn’t like much, used to be a part of it before they’ve got rid of the rails.The whole system is easy to find in a couple of minutes.

expresswayvisual
6 years ago

I agree with you. Using the FEC line to run Coastal Link, then the line by the airport to expand the metro rail to the Doral/FIU, and ludlam to create another N/S line would be ideal for the city.

marc
6 years ago

Apart from the Coastal Link probably happening at some point in the next 10 years I could see the Tri-Rail also activating the CSX line going west to Dolphin Mall. The FEC line going south on the otherhand I find more unlikely as it would take a lot more to lay down track through a corridor that people want to make a linear park as well as going through single family residential areas. Not to mention FEC also has plans to develop on that land too.

Anonymous
6 years ago

I agree that there needs to be a line to Doral and FIU, but running a line down the CSX tracks to FIU is useless because the vast majority of its path is isolated from pedestrians and potential stops. If that is chosen as the route, it will be done so out of laziness and poor-foresight on the part of planners. A route for an East-West Line should run straight down US-41/Calle Ocho from Brickell to FIU with stops in the densely-populated and lower/mid-income areas along the way filled with people who will actually use it (e.g. FIU students, Little Havana Residents…).

Kesley
6 years ago

Finally!
That area is in desperate need for some nice infill. This area is way too close to the “action” to be in the blighted condition it is currently in and it’s about time someone steps in. There is a lot of demand for housing for middle class locals like me who want to be near the urban core, but don’t happen to be rich foreign cash buyers who want some investment “pied-a-terre” they rarely use.

Anonymous
6 years ago

Like the old saying goes – SOME PEOPLE HAVE TO BE DRAGGED KICKING AND SCREAMING – towards change.

Unlike you, my friend.

Danny
6 years ago

I don’t think anyone is against change, they just have a different opinions on the changes and how they play out. It shows people are motivated for change.

I’m sorry you feel democracy is to drag those with any opinions.

Anonymous
6 years ago

“I don’t think anyone is against change, they just have a different opinions on the changes and how they play out. It shows people are motivated for change.”

….says the guy who’s so eager for change after previously posting….

“5 min walk? Who will at night around that area home? There was an AK47 shooting just two years ago down that street which killed multiple people.”

Danny
6 years ago

Has nothing to do with change. The metrorail sales pitch is tacky.

Your too tense. Re-read things without a tense agenda.

Anonymous
6 years ago

So, is the Next Miami article saying that the Miami River is a “short walk away” from this project also tacky in your opinion?

Really???
6 years ago

Tacky in your opinion. It seems you ignorance of the zoning process is misleading you.

Because the project is located within a certain distance of a metrorail station they are allowed to reduced the required parking. It’s not a sales pitch, its part of the code.

Re-read things without a tense agenda.

Anonymous
6 years ago

Parking garage with 600+ spots is still too large for the scale of the actual building, considering that there are already several large parking garages right there where residents can get monthly parking if they need it. Or do like the Loft and share at least some of the parking space with an existing garage. But in the end, how about we let the FREE MARKET determine how successful the project will be? Nobody is saying you have to live there! If it is a flop, fewer developers will want less parking. But if it is successful, which I think it will be, it can really send the signal that our parking standards for complexes in the City are outdated.

Anonymous
6 years ago

As prices continue to rise in downtown and brickell, the miami river is the next logical step for developers looking to cash in on renters wanting to be close in to the action

Alex
6 years ago

it can only increase ridership if people’s jobs are downtown. jobs arent being created downtown because major corporations still dont see miami as a viable place to have their HQ. If Miami had a robust rail system criss-crossing the country THEN companies would be more apt to re-locate here so workers, executives and employees, could have quick access downtown. there’s research proving having companies downtown increases innovation and collaboration. miami has neither.

Really???
6 years ago

That sounds like pure rhetoric. Would Miami be doing better with a robust rail system sure but that doesn’t mean were not making strides for improvement.

According to the BLS Miami is currently outperforming the national average and LEADS the 12 largest metropolitan areas at 3.8% year over year job growth. The biggest sector is construction but we also are leading the national average in both professional and business services and education and health services:

http://www.bls.gov/regions/southeast/news-release/areaemployment_miami.htm

I agree major corporations want to see a large pool of educated workers living in or near downtown but that is happing at a rapid pace. Over the last decade the due to the boom the downtown population doubled. We currently have thousands of units in the pipeline to be complete over the next several years which is only going to add to that. And unlike the last boom were starting to see a decent amount of rental product that is hits more affordable price points.

Its like a overweight person who needs to eat better and work out. Doing both things would be ideal. But if he starts eating right it seems silly to criticize him and tell him eating right is worthless and all he should be concerned with is working out.

You can build rail out to more people or you can build more residential to bring more people to the existing rail. They both achieve the same thing.

Anonymous
6 years ago

I wonder which project this guy is affiliated with…

Danny
6 years ago

No one is against your company Windsor. We just aren’t as hot and heavy on the sales pitch of the metrorail.

COME ON
6 years ago

Danny this is a blog, who would he be selling it to.

Ed
6 years ago

Time to privatize spring garden everyone uses the back streets as a shortcut…… Wonder what 600+ units across the st is going to do

David Lotz, Spring Garden
6 years ago

This project has nothing to do with increasing metrorail ridership. It’s all about the perks that developer’s get when they build close to Metrorail stations. These perks come in the way of Tax breaks and other considerations that allow large developments to escape what would be costly building requirements that in many cases protect residents and the community in general. This project is also located adjacent to Historic Spring Garden which has been fighting off development efforts for decades! The health district has over 23,000 employees that commute everyday. There is a planned development at NW 17 Ave and NW North River Drive that will change the traffic pattern in this area to the west. There are several developments on both sides of the Culmer metrorail Station that are not totally occupied. A large development between NW 5th and 6 streets just to the south of this proposed development used some of the same building perks and there is a severe parking problem due to insufficient spaces. After business hours residents and guests cannot access the residences and parking is bumper to bumper along both sides of NW 6th street. As we have seen in Brickell and Downtown developers get just about everything they want in concessions from the City of Miami and Dade County over the interests of established neighborhoods and the residents who use our roadways and dwindling parking. This project is out of scale for this area and will add few additional riders to metrorail while creating additional barriers to the NW 7Ave and 5th street access to downtown and the Miami River Riverwalk.

Anonymous
6 years ago

Fact remains that Miami’s transit system is broken and streets will continue to be clogged until adequate options to priority destinations are in place. No amount of projects with less parking or next to metro stations are going to solve the traffic problem

Really???
6 years ago

Your logic doesn’t seem to make sense. If you live here and can ride the metro downtown to work then they’ve solved the traffic problem for the people living here.

Really.
6 years ago

So if they want to go to the design district for dinner, or South Beach on the weekend, they can do that too?

Anonymous
6 years ago

You catch the S or 120 to the beach and then catch the 9 or 10 to the design district. They’re options you’re just complaining.

Anonymous
6 years ago

Wow, comparing what should be a 10-15 minute trip to a 30-40 minute bus ride without traffic. Well done.

Anonymous
6 years ago

Not everyone *has* to get there in 10-15 minutes. But if they did, there’s always Uber or Car2Go.

Anonymous
6 years ago

Agree people will always complain can’t satisfy people FOR THE PEOPLE COMMENTING: will this directly effect you? Stop complaining !!!

Anonymous
6 years ago

There’s always Uber…. And not everyone goes out to South Beach–there’s also Brickell right along the Metrorail line.

Anonymous
6 years ago

Use your bike

Anonymous
6 years ago

I know people here like to bitch about everything, but I have recently moved here from São Paulo. Prior to that I had lived in NYC, London and CA. This is by far the least stressful place to navigate. I think investing in transit is a great idea, but Miami is shockingly good at moving millions of people around with relative ease.

Anonymous
6 years ago

I don’t see how this will promote Metrorail ridership.. It’s closer to i-95 than that station, I’m glad to see area is seeing some development though.
Side note: Lovely to see ex-Lehman employees acquiring distressed assets from former employers. No coincidence/conflict there I’m sure.

marc
6 years ago

It’s closer to the Metro Rail station, 3 blocks, than any ramp to either highway near by.

Anonymous
6 years ago

I 95 northbound ramp is 2 1/2 blocks east.

Anonymous
6 years ago

Expressway ramp 2 1/2 blocks east.