This Is The Site That Beckham Is Now Rumored To Be Eyeing For A Stadium

A vacant lot near a Metrorail station is now rumored to be the site that David Beckham is near a deal to build a soccer stadium on.

The privately owned property is located at 650 NW 8th Street. It is small, at just 4.2 acres, but Beckham’s previously rejected proposal for a stadium at Museum Park was on an identically sized footprint. Another vacant property is also listed for sale across the street.

The surrounding area includes low-income housing projects, the historic Spring Garden neighborhood with million dollar homes, and marine industry.

Culmer Metrorail station is less than a quarter mile away. Two upcoming megaprojects, Miami Worldcenter and All Aboard Florida’s MiamiCentral, are just a 15-minute walk away.

Windsor Capital Corporation, led by Roland DiGasbarro, acquired the site in a distressed note sale from Lehman Brothers. It last sold for $12.5 million in 2009.

Earlier this year, Windsor applied to build a 633-unit residential project on the site that the developer said would help promote Metrorail ridership.

 

PreviouslyThis 633-Unit Arquitectonica Project Will Promote Metrorail Ridership, Developer Says

 

apartment complex proposed earlier this year:

it is currently being used for parking:historic Spring Garden neighborhood with million dollar homes, two blocks away:

 

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Marc305

I am not sure if any of Beckham’s people read these comments or any other on social media, but if they have, they have listened to the majority of their fan base. This location is by far the best site they could have ever chosen. The first reason is simple – It is close to a Metro Station, and with the addition of All Aboard Florida, this decision will help attendance. Not having to find parking, or getting stuck in traffic before and after a game is priceless! The second reason is the location, it may not look all that great right now, but with the addition of Miami World Center and the many other projects planned around it, this area will look and feel a lot different in just a few years. The third and final reason is that when this stadium gets build it will not have to answer to the Marlins, or to their schedule, or to their sponsors. For all the naysayers, all I can say is – remember who is making these decisions: a former soccer star, the CEO of Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment, the creator of American Idol, and the CEO of Sprint.… Read more »

Anonymous

I hate to say it this way but if you want honesty then here is the truth. This area is a very long long time away from becoming gentrified. This part of Miami is hard core central ghetto and is very dangerous. Look up the crime statistics involving guns and drug sales and crimes for this neighborhood. TNM is wrong on this site.

Anonymous

My thoughts exactly. I’d catch a game there with my buddies, but I’d never walk those three blocks with my wife and kids. A few blocks make a big difference, especially at night. But in this PC world we live in, let the thumbs down begin.

sensible

You are being very short-sighted with this comment. The old Miami Arena used to be in a deserted part of downtown where many homeless live. A huge sports arena tends to bring with more security and a police presence. This isn’t about gentrification at all. Stadiums usually don’t end up in bougie neighborhoods. If a company invests hundreds of millions of dollars in a venture, they will do everything they can to keep people there. Likely this includes making them feel safe.

Anonymous

Which is exactly what happened with the Marlins stadium, eh?

suomynona

“Hard core central ghetto”?

No, it isn’t.

I live real close to this site. It’s certainly not a nice part of town. But I have had no problem with anyone and I’ve lived here for about a year-and-a-half. By “no problem” I mean I’ve never been harassed or threatened. Never had my car or apartment broken into or had anything taken. I’ve never seen anyone brandishing a gun and never observed a drug transaction. There are a lot of families in the neighborhood and most people just mind their business like anywhere else.

If you’re coming from Culmer station, just walk the 3 blocks to the stadium by taking 7th Ct to 8th St Rd. Boom, you’re there. You don’t have to even cross 7th St (main north/south road in the neighborhood) until you’re at the stadium (there’s a traffic light at the intersection). That route is NOT “ghetto” whatsoever.

I would have little concern walking with women and children along that route, even if no game – with additional fans and police presence – were taking place.

suomynona

And gentrification is happening, albeit slowly.

All you have to do is look to see all of the new(er) construction in the area. It’s easy to spot even if older buildings and empty lots are still the majority.

IF in the coming years MWC, AAF, that Tech “campus”, and the Overtown high rises with the grocer are built, and IF the soccer stadium is built at this site, I think you WILL start to see the development better connecting the stadium with downtown. This site is MUCH closer to downtown than the Marlins/OB site. But it won’t be overnight (20 years to see substantial change?), nor am I suggesting it becomes Brickell 2.0 or the like.

Yet Another Anonymous

Right. It would be Brickell 3.0 Edgewater is Brickell 2.0 😉

suomynona

It’s certainly not my ideal Overtown-area location. I liked the School Board site and that area south of 395/west of the train tracks/north of the MetroRail/east of 95 better.

But it’s much closer to mass transit and downtown amenities. And it has the potential for a skyline view, unlike the Marlins site. Traffic will be rough but likely will be at most locations. They probably need to build a parking structure south of this location on the block that is partially occupied Miami Dade “public works”.

It’s also another very tight squeeze, layout wise. But if it was feasible at the Marlins site, I guess it’s feasible here. Seats and upper decks are going to have to be ON TOP of the field.

suomynona

Actually, I don’t see how a stadium fits there. FIU Stadium’s footprint is larger than that entire block. It would take up the full right-of-way for roads on 3 sides of this site as well as part of both blocks to the north and south.

FIU Stadium is 25,000 seats or less.

Marc305
ForzaRoma

Was hoping for something just north of 395 near the school board metro mover station. Connectivity to transit, possible visibility from the heavily traveled 395, and a area with vacant land between downtown and Wynwood/midtown.

This location isn’t bad. Definitely better than Marlins’ Park, but it could be a little better.

John

I get that its close to the Metromover but thats where the positives end IMO. The backstreets around this location can not support any type of stadium traffic. The thought of widening the streets is pretty much impossible. Im sure proponents will argue thats what the mover is for. There is no space. This area is fairly quiet, minus the ambulance noise. There will be no benefit for anyone living or owning property there. The home owners along the river will fight this.

Anonymous

FYI it’s the Metro Rail. I agree this area is all low income rentals except for the richies across the canal.

Danny

Yeap, fight it for season tickets.

Anonymous

People are so ridiculous here never satisfied, LITTLE HAVANA is just as bad if not worse and looks ghetto as hell. If a stadium can go there it can go anywhere in this city.

Yet Another Anonymous

This is NOT in spring garden, it is adjacent to it; across the river and a large avenue. Depending on how they do this, this could be a better proposal than the large TOD apartment complex, I mean 600 units is not a lot for that size property, if it was 1600 and ~15 floors that would be different. This site is just within the 5 minute/quarter mile walk shed of Culmer station: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Culmer+Metrorail+Station,+Northwest+11th+Street,+Miami,+FL/650+NW+8th+St,+Miami,+FL+33136/@25.7785478,-80.2096282,15.75z/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x88d9b48c241af129:0x5cdfb80fea479724!2m2!1d-80.2076423!2d25.7845348!1m5!1m1!1s0x88d9b695864a64fd:0xd6daefa3257e33f4!2m2!1d-80.2063244!2d25.7811907?hl=en

Anonymous

It is approximately 500 feet from inside Spring Garden to the proposed site, much closer than the metrorail. The Seybold Canal is not a wide body of water & 7th Ave is not a “wide” street.

Anonymous

Have to agree. People are going to scream bloody murder if they are subjected to all the noise and light emitted from a professional sport stadium that close.

Anonymous

A couple of years ago (before Beckham had even announced his plans), I marked a couple of places around Downtown I thought would be great for a stadium. This exact lot was one of the places I chose, so I’ll be pleased if it ends up the site.

It’s definitely not the best site I had in mind, but It is for sure better than the Marlins stadium one.

Danny

You sir are Nostradamus.

Casey A.

Miami world center is right there. All board Florida is right there. There is a lot of development and face lifting going on. You don’t think that they are not going to be cleaning up that area from now and also in the coming years? Hundreds if not thousands of soccer fans walking in groups to the stadium and back and the area will be patrolled by law enforcement during games. Yankee stadium is in the South Bronx and Sunlife is in Miami Gardens. So what ? If you feel that unsafe then don’t go to the games until they clean up the area Lol. But cleaning up the area will be inevitable in the coming years. There are parts in little Havana that are ghetto by Marlins park and I have never had a problem even since the early days of the Orange bowl. Bottom line, I like the location for the Soccer stadium. It is in proximity to MWC, AF train station, and metro and all relevant venues. Good for Beckham… dale !!! ✌

Marc305

Well said Casey, you took the words out of my mouth. I grew up in S.E. Washington D.C. a real ghetto, now I live in Brickell and would feel completely comfortable walking to soccer games from the Metro station. Some of these people making comments on this page act as if this area is Mogadishu or Raqqa. Good grief! Grow a pair!

marc

It’s an iffy proposition in my opinion but I hope they can make it work.

Yet Another Anonymous

!!!!
The big time, Miami Herald ran an article based solely on and crediting only TNM for the speculation over the site:
“Neither Garber nor representatives of Beckham’s group would specify where the new site is, but real-estate site thenextmiami.com reported that the group was looking at a 4.2-acre Overtown lot at 650 NW Eighth St., near I-95 and the Culmer Metrorail station.”
!!!!!

Anonymous

I think TNM has this call all wrong for a lot of reasons. First the Springs Garden neighborhood is very influential and would never agree to allow this in a quaint historical location like theirs. They will fight this. Then MetroRail is not close enough too far away to walk and there is zero nada zilch synergy at this location to lure a skeptical fan base. Try again.

marc

It’s literally .3 miles from the Metro Rail station. That’s too far?

Anonymous

Agreed, that is nothing. I can walk that with an average/normal pace and reach the stadium in 15 minutes.

Anonymous

Forget the distance to the overtown metrorail station. The issue here is that this site is in a very rough part of town that is ages from being gentrified. I work close to the overtown station and i can tell u that walk is a scary one, even during broad daylight. Any development in this area needs to happen east of I-95. I actually prefer the marlins stadium site over this one.

Anonymous

It’s by the Culmer Station not Overtown/Lyric.

Anonymous

Yes, it is closer to Culmer. However, the walk through that neighborhood is bad in either direction.

Marc305

Hey marc, what is this guy talking about? I jog 5K three times a week, a distance of .3 miles is no more than 6 minutes and that is if you are strolling, taking in the sites, and stopping twice to tie up your shoe laces, SMH.

Anonymous

1/2 mile leisure stroll through the ghetto at night is too far a risk for most people. There are no sites to take in. I suggest sprinting, and whatever you do, don’t stop to tie your shoe!

Anonymous

I think a few thousand soccer fans taking that stroll should feel safe.

peepeepoopoo

what happens if the typical miami crowd leaves early and you stay to the end with your significant other? hopefully theyre considering adding lighting and security

Danny

Have you ever been to a stadium event? You believe that Beckham will knowingly allow for the people who attend the stadium to not be safe?

This stadium is right by City of Miami Police Department. You think the PD won’t have a contract?

Anonymous

Your ridiculous!!!!! Little Havana is just as bad

Anonymous

This guy must want someone to place him in his seat and probably walk him to the bathroom during halftime.

Anonymous

Spring Garden is an official historic district in Miami. If this is indeed the site, it will face massive push-back from locals

Anonymous

Locals, spelled NIMBYs

Anonymous

West of 95.. daring proposal

Danny

They said the same in 1915. The boogeyman is West of 95.

tumadre

spring gardens???? i lived here all my life…who the hell cares about spring gardens..
you guys are so negative… makes perfect sense… let the gheeto leave and all there projects…

Yet Another Anonymous

Guys, this is piddly “spring garden”, I rarely even hear or think about this place. This is no Coral Gables or golden beach or indian creek, what kind of clout do they have? They are a distant remnant of old money surrounded by ghettos to mediocre at best neighborhoods.

Anonymous

Please no…

Danny

It’s funny you say this because you don’t have a dollar invested, nor would even attend a soccer game.