Virgin Trains Connection To PortMiami Will Be Considered By Commissioners

Virgin Trains has expressed an interest an exploring a relationship with Miami-Dade that would allow travelers a way to access PortMiami.

As a result, county commissioners will vote today on whether to study the feasibility of allowing Virgin to expand its rail service into the port.

The resolution also states that the rail connection would facilitate travel from Miami International Airport to PortMiami via existing and planned means of rapid transit, including Metrorail and Tri-Rail. Both of those would require multiple transfers however, making their use impractical.

Virgin’s parent company already owns rail infrastructure that connects from the MiamiCentral station into the port, making the potential new service relatively easy to activate.

PortMiami is the busiest cruise port in the world. Passenger numbers rose 37% from 2013 to 2018, and are project to rise even faster over the next few years as terminals come online.

Yesterday, Virgin announced that their IPO was being put on hold as they explored alternative financing. According to the FT, some were more interested in investing in Virgin as a private company. An IPO may still be considered again in the future, Bloomberg wrote.

 

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Anonymous

Just let Virgin Trains operate the entire metrorail and pay them a fee. It’ll be a lot cheaper and they won’t allow any no show employees to keep working.

Anonymous

That’s Carlos Jimenez favorite excuse to do nothing about Miami’s public transportation System

Anonymous

>county commissioners will vote today on whether to study the feasibility of allowing Virgin to expand its rail service into the port.

Of course. When it comes to anything but highways it’s always study, study, study. Never any action.

Anonymous

baylink I think is on their third study.

Anonymous

Yeah, and meanwhile, their paying some out of town consultants $20 million dollars for studying different transportation alternatives to Miami Beach.

Anonymous

No brainer.. do it

Anonymous

Metromover extension with several stops at the port or PRT with stops at all the terminals might be the best option.

Anonymous

That would take twenty years of studying.

Anonymous

Metro rail moves so slowly. We need them to use a more modern technology that can move more quickly.

Anonymous

Moves quicker than traffic during the morning and evening commutes

Anonymous

Low capacity, especially if included as Baylink.

Anonymous

The county still propose anything other than expanding the actual rail system operated by Miami-Dade transit, the metromover and metrorail make far more sense for the port.

Anonymous

Brightline (Virgin now) is privately owned and they’re the ones pitching this idea.

Anonymous

Conducting a study by these lifer county commissioners means a 10 year study at at cost of 8 millions dollars and nothing done at the end

Anonymous

Europeans would love these non-stop options via Virgin

Berny

Commissioners does not care about traffic in miami. They just going to eat pastelitos and cortaditos in the Versailles calle ocho …

Oscar

This might be very well the only way we get anything resembling rail transit to the port but it’s crazy that the county, which receives a quarter of a billion dollars each year that is “earmarked” for “transit expansion,” is outsourcing what would likely be one of the busiest routes to a for-profit entity. At least we have that free Flagami trolley, though.

Anonymous

Lol

Anonymous

Obviously the county has no insight and is not proactive. That possibility has been sitting there ever since metrorail started service to Mia. Because they lack vision the idea never dawned on them to have metrorail go all the way to the port, from Mia. That takes brightline / virgin (private company) to come up with a smart plan. What a joke they are.

Anonymous

Amaaaaazing! PLS commissioners, approve this quickly. Virgin’s got a real vision for Miami — too bad the commissioners don’t.

Anonymous

I think the metrorail would make more sense for the port, it has direct access to the airport and county residents who are going on a cruise trip.

Anonymous

maybe theyre only envisioning a system/service that is only limited to users of Virgin Trains?? An expansion of the metromover would make the connection available to all cruise companies. Read the part about multiple
connections being a problem.

Anonymous

The multiple “transfers” not connections. The transfers refers to using the airport shuttle bus system the the MIC. Then getting on the metro rail to government center. Then transferring to some third service to get to the port. Meaning st that point, the efficiency of that for transportation becomes much less effective then other means.

Anonymous

Yeah but that might be difficult. With the new brightline station there may not be enough of a turning radius to connect the existing line. The station also blocks any new east west line over the street.

Anonymous

Build the east-west metrorail connection.

Anonymous

I don’t think Virgin is interested in running the County operations (metrorail / Metro Mover). Sounds like they’re more interested in using their own trains, making the whole experience seamless.

Anonymous

Not at all. They already have service to the Port – it’s used several times each day for freight service already.

Anonymous

The article talks about the feasibility of expanding virgin’s rail operation to the port…further down it talks says “The resolution also states that the rail connection would facilitate travel from Miami International Airport to PortMiami ”.

Question: how does an extension of virgins service to the port serve to facilitate a connection to the airport?

Anonymous

The connection would be via a transfer at Miami Central, both to and from Mia.

Anonymous

transfer to metrorail then??

Ciudadano kane

When the commissioners going to take care of the traffic lights. They announcing the smarts lights for new Millenium

Anonymous

Everything mass transit is costly, controversial and hard to get done. That’s why these lifetime county commissioners don’t touch it and the reason why we need shorter terms.

Anonymous

So? What wa the verdict??

Anonymous

Did they vote? anyone know the outcome?

Anonymous

It would have to run under ground or elevated like they did with bright line, I really hope they don’t bring an active rail line at street level in downtown.

Anonymous

YEs they approved it 3-0

Anonymous

Simple… a private train on the existing tracks to the Port. Job Done !

Anonymous

The parent company of Virgin Trains/Brightline does NOT own the railroad tracks into the Port… It is owned by FEC Railway, owned by Grupo Mexico. SEPARATE COMPANIES.

Anonymous

Either way, it’s only one track. If they elevate the tracks it shouldn’t affect freight.

marc

They also don’t own the tracks they use going up and down between stations. Those are also owned by FEC sooo… I doubt any new lines would be created. They’d have to negotiate usage just like the rest of the line.

Anonymous

FEC is the primary owner of Brightline. Virgin is a minority share holder.

Anonymous

No, Brightline is owned by Fortress Investment Group, and FEC Railway is owned by Grupo Mexico. They have not been under the same parent for a couple of years already.

Anonymous

“The resolution also states that the rail connection would facilitate travel from Miami International Airport to PortMiami via existing and planned means of rapid transit, including Metrorail and Tri-Rail. Both of those would require multiple transfers however, making their use impractical.”

Of course Metrorail would be impractical to the port, because then it could extend to Miami Beach and kill two birds with one stone. /sarcasm

Anonymous

That sounds like Virgin is solely interested in capturing passengers from Orlando to Mia cruise lines and visa-versa.

Anonymous

When are the 836 bus corridor from west 137th to airport and downtown staring ?

Anonymous

As long as it’s not public mass transit!! Let’s only do this if it helps Brightline survive!

Anonymous

Virgin trains gasping for survival!

Anonymous

I don’t blame them for trying to capture market share. All companies are trying to increase the bottom line. It’s the nature of business.

Anonymous

Virgins ride this:

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Anonymous

Yes, but taxis need business too.