Virgin Trains Connection To PortMiami Will Be Considered By Commissioners

Virgin Trains has expressed an interest an exploring a relationship with Miami-Dade that would allow travelers a way to access PortMiami.

As a result, county commissioners will vote today on whether to study the feasibility of allowing Virgin to expand its rail service into the port.

The resolution also states that the rail connection would facilitate travel from Miami International Airport to PortMiami via existing and planned means of rapid transit, including Metrorail and Tri-Rail. Both of those would require multiple transfers however, making their use impractical.

Virgin’s parent company already owns rail infrastructure that connects from the MiamiCentral station into the port, making the potential new service relatively easy to activate.

PortMiami is the busiest cruise port in the world. Passenger numbers rose 37% from 2013 to 2018, and are project to rise even faster over the next few years as terminals come online.

Yesterday, Virgin announced that their IPO was being put on hold as they explored alternative financing. According to the FT, some were more interested in investing in Virgin as a private company. An IPO may still be considered again in the future, Bloomberg wrote.

 

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Anonymous
1 year ago

Just let Virgin Trains operate the entire metrorail and pay them a fee. It’ll be a lot cheaper and they won’t allow any no show employees to keep working.

Anonymous
1 year ago

That’s Carlos Jimenez favorite excuse to do nothing about Miami’s public transportation System

Anonymous
1 year ago

>county commissioners will vote today on whether to study the feasibility of allowing Virgin to expand its rail service into the port.

Of course. When it comes to anything but highways it’s always study, study, study. Never any action.

Anonymous
1 year ago

baylink I think is on their third study.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Yeah, and meanwhile, their paying some out of town consultants $20 million dollars for studying different transportation alternatives to Miami Beach.

Anonymous
1 year ago

No brainer.. do it

Anonymous
1 year ago

Metromover extension with several stops at the port or PRT with stops at all the terminals might be the best option.

Anonymous
1 year ago

That would take twenty years of studying.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Metro rail moves so slowly. We need them to use a more modern technology that can move more quickly.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Moves quicker than traffic during the morning and evening commutes

Anonymous
1 year ago

Low capacity, especially if included as Baylink.

Anonymous
1 year ago

The county still propose anything other than expanding the actual rail system operated by Miami-Dade transit, the metromover and metrorail make far more sense for the port.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Brightline (Virgin now) is privately owned and they’re the ones pitching this idea.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Conducting a study by these lifer county commissioners means a 10 year study at at cost of 8 millions dollars and nothing done at the end

Anonymous
1 year ago

Europeans would love these non-stop options via Virgin

Berny
1 year ago

Commissioners does not care about traffic in miami. They just going to eat pastelitos and cortaditos in the Versailles calle ocho …

Oscar
1 year ago

This might be very well the only way we get anything resembling rail transit to the port but it’s crazy that the county, which receives a quarter of a billion dollars each year that is “earmarked” for “transit expansion,” is outsourcing what would likely be one of the busiest routes to a for-profit entity. At least we have that free Flagami trolley, though.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Lol

Anonymous
1 year ago

Obviously the county has no insight and is not proactive. That possibility has been sitting there ever since metrorail started service to Mia. Because they lack vision the idea never dawned on them to have metrorail go all the way to the port, from Mia. That takes brightline / virgin (private company) to come up with a smart plan. What a joke they are.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Amaaaaazing! PLS commissioners, approve this quickly. Virgin’s got a real vision for Miami — too bad the commissioners don’t.

Anonymous
1 year ago

I think the metrorail would make more sense for the port, it has direct access to the airport and county residents who are going on a cruise trip.

Anonymous
1 year ago

maybe theyre only envisioning a system/service that is only limited to users of Virgin Trains?? An expansion of the metromover would make the connection available to all cruise companies. Read the part about multiple
connections being a problem.

Anonymous
1 year ago

The multiple “transfers” not connections. The transfers refers to using the airport shuttle bus system the the MIC. Then getting on the metro rail to government center. Then transferring to some third service to get to the port. Meaning st that point, the efficiency of that for transportation becomes much less effective then other means.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Yeah but that might be difficult. With the new brightline station there may not be enough of a turning radius to connect the existing line. The station also blocks any new east west line over the street.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Build the east-west metrorail connection.

Anonymous
1 year ago

I don’t think Virgin is interested in running the County operations (metrorail / Metro Mover). Sounds like they’re more interested in using their own trains, making the whole experience seamless.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Not at all. They already have service to the Port – it’s used several times each day for freight service already.

Anonymous
1 year ago

The article talks about the feasibility of expanding virgin’s rail operation to the port…further down it talks says “The resolution also states that the rail connection would facilitate travel from Miami International Airport to PortMiami ”.

Question: how does an extension of virgins service to the port serve to facilitate a connection to the airport?

Anonymous
1 year ago

The connection would be via a transfer at Miami Central, both to and from Mia.

Anonymous
1 year ago

transfer to metrorail then??

Ciudadano kane
1 year ago

When the commissioners going to take care of the traffic lights. They announcing the smarts lights for new Millenium

Anonymous
1 year ago

Everything mass transit is costly, controversial and hard to get done. That’s why these lifetime county commissioners don’t touch it and the reason why we need shorter terms.

Anonymous
1 year ago

So? What wa the verdict??

Anonymous
1 year ago

Did they vote? anyone know the outcome?

Anonymous
1 year ago

It would have to run under ground or elevated like they did with bright line, I really hope they don’t bring an active rail line at street level in downtown.

Anonymous
1 year ago

YEs they approved it 3-0

Anonymous
1 year ago

Simple… a private train on the existing tracks to the Port. Job Done !

Anonymous
1 year ago

The parent company of Virgin Trains/Brightline does NOT own the railroad tracks into the Port… It is owned by FEC Railway, owned by Grupo Mexico. SEPARATE COMPANIES.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Either way, it’s only one track. If they elevate the tracks it shouldn’t affect freight.

marc
1 year ago

They also don’t own the tracks they use going up and down between stations. Those are also owned by FEC sooo… I doubt any new lines would be created. They’d have to negotiate usage just like the rest of the line.

Anonymous
1 year ago

FEC is the primary owner of Brightline. Virgin is a minority share holder.

Anonymous
1 year ago

No, Brightline is owned by Fortress Investment Group, and FEC Railway is owned by Grupo Mexico. They have not been under the same parent for a couple of years already.

Anonymous
1 year ago

“The resolution also states that the rail connection would facilitate travel from Miami International Airport to PortMiami via existing and planned means of rapid transit, including Metrorail and Tri-Rail. Both of those would require multiple transfers however, making their use impractical.”

Of course Metrorail would be impractical to the port, because then it could extend to Miami Beach and kill two birds with one stone. /sarcasm

Anonymous
1 year ago

That sounds like Virgin is solely interested in capturing passengers from Orlando to Mia cruise lines and visa-versa.

Anonymous
1 year ago

When are the 836 bus corridor from west 137th to airport and downtown staring ?

Anonymous
1 year ago

As long as it’s not public mass transit!! Let’s only do this if it helps Brightline survive!

Anonymous
1 year ago

Virgin trains gasping for survival!

Anonymous
1 year ago

I don’t blame them for trying to capture market share. All companies are trying to increase the bottom line. It’s the nature of business.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Virgins ride this:

(_)_)########D

Anonymous
1 year ago

Yes, but taxis need business too.