Wynwood’s New Residents & Property Owners Are Clashing With Nightclubs; Noise Ordinances ‘Broken Daily’

Hundreds of new new residents have moved into newly built apartments in Wynwood, leading to a dispute with nightclubs over noise levels.

Now, property owners are taking action.

Yesterday, a board meeting of Wynwood’s Business Improvement was held, where the issue was discussed. Around 60 people were in attendance, including Mayor Francis Suarez.

At the meeting, Mayor Suarez reaffirmed his administration’s commitment to uphold the law and do everything possible to help Wynwood continue flourishing.

Some nightclubs are breaking permitting and noise ordinances, while unfairly competing with those businesses who have gone through the city’s lengthy permitting process, the BID says.

Wynwood 25, which is the first major apartment building to open in the neighborhood, has heard complaints from its new residents. An email from the manager stated that they have had to buy white noise machines for tenants last week, and that complaints to code compliance were not responded to.

 

 

Video below was taken from the first major apartment building in the neighborhood, Wynwood 25. It was provided by Wynwood’s BID:

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Madonna

Why move to a bustling area if you are going to complain about the bustling?

Anonymous

MADONNA, ARE YOU STILL RECORDING? WHEN IS YOUR NEXT WORLD TOUR?

Anonymous

I am a Gen Xer, and I have seen this happen time and time again. First was South Beach, then it was Downtown, then it was Brickell and now it is Wynwood. Seems that complainers are born in every generation. Every city has an area where people party and it is loud. No one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to live there. If you hate it, move! I did. Back in the early 2000’s I was in my 20’s and I bought a place in South Beach right next to a hotel that had fashion shows, a pool, and dance music. I thought I hit the jackpot until I realized that the party went from Wednesday to Sunday.. none stop. I saw everything from my window, from hot girls to people doing things that would make a pimp blush. I lasted about 9 months. I just could not get a good night sleep, it was too much even for me, and I was a party animal, but I did not bitch, I put it on the market, I sold it, made a nice little profit and moved on. So stop complaining, we all have free will,… Read more »

Anonymous

Focus on real problems in Wynwood. Crime, trash, and high rent.

Btw, It ain’t noise, its music.

#SaveWynwood

Sign the petiton to stop this nonsense!
#SaveWynwood
https://www.change.org/savewynwood

Anonymous

I’m not signing up sh*t as long as I can still the homeless living on corners please just stop it.These kids need a place to have fun allow them that this is going way too far. You guys should have went to the city council meetings to stop them from building but nooooo all ypu heard was money being put in. and plus these business have busted their assets to be there. As long as you don’t have shoot out it shouldn’t be a problem

Anonymous

Exactly!

Anonymous

Don’t move to wynwood then!!! The clubs helped to bring that area to life. I knew these new people moving into Miami would make it a big issue. Honestly, just leave and let us keep our city. Wynwood AND Ultra were here before all these people.

Anonymous

get over it, dude… don’t move to Wynwood if you have an early wake-up call every morning. Homestead has plenty of apartments for rent.

ps. close your damn window

Anonymous

lol right? post a video with the window closed, and then we can MAYBE talk

Anonymous

They don’t mind the music, as long as it’ll put you to sleep and it’s by somebody like Lawrence Welk.

POLO

It happens all the time (Downtown, Miami World Center, SOBE, Coconut Grove, Wynwood, etc.) to neighborhoods:
1. A neighborhood becomes hot because of its nightlife, and art scene.
2. Developers move in an built condos.
3. People move in, and then complaint about noise, and people.
4. Nightclubs close, art galleries go away, and people stop visiting.
5. Neighborhood becomes boring, and void of any life.
6. On to the hot next neighborhood, and the cycle repeats!

Anonymous

Wrong.. neighborhoods adapt and find a happy medium.

Anonymous

HAPPY BORING MEDIUM!!!

Anonymous

yep. don’t understand the problem. enforce code. time to move on.

Anonymous

South Beach is “boring and void of any life?” How was it better full of poor old folks and drug dealers with chainsaws?

Anonymous

That was Scarface, LOL!!!

Anonymous

Developers knew what area they’re building these apartments in, a extra layer of dry wall and sound proof windows wouldn’t be to much to do for the future residents.

Anonymous

Yes, and who would have thought, the interior courtyard units at this building are probably more desirable because they are quiet, and you still live in the middle of Wynwood.

Anonymous

Don’t blame it on the developers, residents should of known what area they were moving into. Suck it up or move somewhere else

Anonymous

I wanna live where there’s thousand’s of people in an up and coming, vibrant, busting, lively, entertaining, peaceful, quiet, safe, bike friendly, and car-less area with my own space to park in.

What’s wrong with that?!!!

Anonymous

Nothing but dont expect a place with a prominent nightlife to be quiet

Anonymous

Then move somewhere that will provide you that…. Wynwood is not it. What kind of person moves into a neighborhood known for nightlife and then expects a “quiet” life?! Why should the neighborhood change to suit your whim? What about all the businesses and people who survive off of that nightlife and where there long before you?

Anonymous

I don’t care if it’s Wynwoood, I “wanna live where there’s thousand’s of people in an up and coming, vibrant, busting, lively, entertaining, peaceful, quiet, safe, bike friendly, and car-less area with my own space to park in!!!”

Anonymous

cute.

Anon

True. Developers should have known – or should know- that there will be thousands of 28 year olds blasting music with their 15 mins of fame/ netflix/ youtube/ all the apps …… using the earbuds with no respect to others….. the question is why anyone is surprised.

Bryan

Here we go again. What do people expect moving into one of the liveliest neighborhoods in Miami. Street events and rooftop bars are going to make it worse going forward. I have a hostel in the area and Im getting noise complaints. People want to be in the cool areas but they don’t want others to have fun. Its only when they want the fun. 1) Builders need to build with this in mind. Sound Isolation, thicker impact glass at least 7/16 not that cheap stuff. Do some mitigation. You are charging enough. White noise machines lmao. 2) The BID needs to get a clear vision for wynwood. All money is not good money. The exponential growth is from the cool factor and Play. Start making that hard,then you lose your lane. There are better residential neighborhoods for those people that are complaining. They have the money. Trust 3) On to Allapattah. The other businesses wont have complaints. Competitors are not calling code enforcement on each other. Its easier to do business and provide a makeshift cool experience. People love that type of authenticity. The overpriced, trash experiences in Wynwood will get old. Businesses are empty. Their rents are unrealistic.… Read more »

Anonymous

you got me at “thicker” big boy.

Anonymous

it is foolish to choose to live in a nightclub/bar environment and not see this coming…but the illegal club operators should be shut down immediatly

Anonymous

“illegal club operators?”

If what you’re saying is correct, then quips about Miami’s government being run like you’re in some third world country is true.

Anonymous

its true

Anonymous

Most Miami residents originate from 3rd world countries. So they vote for 3rd world countries politicians.

Anon

i agree these complainers shouldn’t move to wynwood, and honestly, the noise is probably the least of their concerns if they’re going to complain this much. But the truth is, the city should have required sound deadening or more sound deadening insulation for all residential in the neighborhood.

the reality is that Related built a cheap, shitty building, with minimal insulation. That’s their MO. This is the real issue.

Anonymous

You can rest assured if the City tried to force developers to spend more money on materials that wasn’t directly tied to hazard mitigation, they’d sue big time.

Anonymous

Not true at all. I am a developer, currently putting up a commercial building on a busy boulevard, with the rear of my building across the street from a library and residential Neighborhood. We Are required to beef up the wall section with extra insulation on this side of the building to mitigate noise pollution to protect neighbors and the community.

These requirements happen all the time.

Anonymous

You must not be a downtown developer then.

Anonymous

If you don’t like it close your window or move to Idaho

Anonymous

Boise ?

Anonymous

Just build noise cancelling windows fuck..

Anonymous

lol.. true

Anonymous

People, did you not know where you were moving to? It’s like the people that live downtown that complain about Ultra. If you don’t like the noise move to the suburbs.

Anonymous

not the same comparison.

Anonymous

Many of those living downtown were there long before Ultra showed up.

Anonymous

Not really because ultra was there in formerly called bicential park in the early 2000s, well before the 2005 building boom

Anonymous

Just move ULTRA to Watson Island and be done with it.

Anonymous

Not True..Check your dates. Ultra first event at Bayfront park was 2001. Majority of the residential buildings around the Park were not built till 2006 and after. So these buyers were well aware of Ultra.

Anonymous

Love to see how that sounds with the window CLOSED! Who opens their window in Miami anyway?
Drama queen. Go live in Coral Gables if you want peace n quiet!

Anonymous

NO!.. I wanna live where there’s thousand’s of people in an up and coming, vibrant, busting, lively, entertaining, peaceful, quiet, safe, bike friendly, and car-less area with my own space to park in.

What’s wrong with that?!!!

Anonymous

Then move somewhere that will provide you that…. Wynwood is not it. What idiot moves into a neighborhood known for nightlife and then expects a “quiet’ life?!

Anonymous

No!.. I wanna live in the up an coming Whinywood I mean Wynwood neighborhood around the expected thousands of new residents because it’s becoming more vibrant and busting, lively plus entertaining… but I also want it to be peaceful, quiet, safe, bike friendly, and car-less with my own space to park in dammit!!!

Anonymous

Honestly…if people knew how wynwood is with nightclubs, tourism, bars etc why would you move to an area where you know DAMN WELL IS NOT PEACE AND QUIET! For crying out loud how stupid can these people be??? Stop complaining and suck it up and deal with it

Anonymous

“For crying out loud how stupid can these people be???”

This is Miami so answering that question is like figuring how big the universe is.

Anonymous

“how stupid can these people be???”

You have people still getting killed by Brightline/Virgin trains in South Florida so…….

Anonymous

The neighborhood was there before you, suburban wannabees…”I am here, now change!”…Man, talk about privilege…get a life – someplace else.

Anonymous

I knew the people in that apartment in particular who willingly moved into the middle of wynwood would start complaining. They’re next to that mana event space and have concrete beach brewery right under the brewery. Also wynwood is getting more hotels and apartments soon.

Anonymous

The housing should be on the East side of Wynwood, partying on the West.

Anonymous

RC Cola factory is in the west and i’m sure the tenants of that new office next to wynwood brewery will be complaining about the sound checks soon.

Gerry

I’ve been in Wynwood 25 and I’ve also been installing windows and doors w my dad since I was 14. Now I run the whole business.
The windows there may be code compliant, but the lowest end you can get. This would have been a non issue if developer would have invested properly instead of trying to squeeze out another .5% profit.
Think of buildings in NYC or with high wind noise like the Beach. Those are high quality windows.

Hey Related Group, I’ll change them for you. Call me! Hahaha!

Gerry

Anonymous

I wonder if the windows installed in the apartments above MiamiCentral used the higher quality to mitigate train noise.

Matt

Did any of the people living here not know what area they were paying a premium to live in? What a bunch shit people to choose to live next to a club then bitch about the choice they made

Anonymous

This is normal.. same thing occurred on South Beach.. Developers and business leaders will work it out.

Anonymous

Yes!.. just turn down that loudass music a little.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

UGH. The NIMBY’s will destroy all the fun in this city. Move to Kendall or Doral if you don’t want to be where the action is.

MIAMIVIAQUEENSNY

Hello!!! It’s WYNWOOD. What did you expect? I knew once they started developing residential buildings this would happen. And for the people dumb enough to think it would change once you moved in….Surprise!!! Nothing but an everending cycle. Wynwood was just fine without you snobby new residents who want the hip environment but not what comes with it. As other readers said….GO TO CORAL GABLES, KENDALL OR HOMESTEAD if you want peace and quiet.

Anonymous

This is normal. Those who thought that Wynnwood would stay a wild wild west are in la la land. Time to move on further west of 95.

Anonymous

For the life of me I can’t understand why the Design District is so beautiful but so boring at night. Relocate these clubs from Wynwood to the Design District and watch how fast the complaints stop.

Anon

HILARIOUS! TOO FUNNY…..
people! you gotta think before you buy or rent!

Dokter

Recalling the first year of law school, Spur Industries, Inc. v. Del E. Webb Development Co., and the “coming to the nuisance” doctrine.

Anonymous

I’ve been saying this since the first law suits with Ultra came up.

Anonymous

Please, bury overhead power lines in Wynwood. It’s a distraction that an artsy neighborhood has all those lines.

Anonymous

it gives the rough feel

Anonymous

It’s also generally more vulnerable to outages from storms and cuts into sidewalk real estate (think not ADA compliant), so yeah, bury them.

Anonymous

Bury the overhead power lines in Wynwood so it won’t be a distraction?

Heck, they should first try to figure out how to keep the streets there at least somewhat clean.

Anonymous

Why the hell would you buy an apartment in Wynnwood without doing the research i

Azarius

This is the developers faught. They knew what this area was and built those apartments cheap but charging Brickell pricing smfh plus what you thought you would hear in this area at night

Azarius

It’s funny now they have a petition going to Save Wynwood from closing at 11pm

Anonymous

This is a joke, the window is open, Also why even move to Wynwood ? This is just one big scam.

Sean

Lets be honest, what made Wynwood was low rent spaces where artist and others could be creative. Every developer and entrepreneur in Miami had tried to distill and package that essence and in the process drain away or pushed out that creative energy; destroying what made Wynwood possible. The apartments and condos are just another example of poor planning and over development. I feel very little remorse for the development groups who are loosing money from these projects.

Anonymous

It’s not poor planning nor is it over development. It’s economics. If a project can secure financing, that means they’ve proven to lenders there’s demand. They’re not going to develop without demand. Condos are different because their financing comes from a mix of pre-sales and traditional financing. If they have enough pre-sales, the project will get done. Doesn’t matter if there’s people living in the condo or not because the capital was created to facilitate construction. Allowing for residential in a place like Wynwood is great for increasing density and making Miami more sustainable. Adding people to the city rather than building out more suburbs on untouched greenfields is environmentally responsible.

Anonymous

What’s “over-development?”

That’s like saying “over-populated.” But in the bible God said, “be fruitful and multiply.”

Anonymous

Over development is building more than you need, not the same as overpopulated.

Anonymous

Please keep quotes from your fairy tale book out of this forum. There are plenty of religious sites where you can go and do that, this is not one of them.

Anonymous

Sorry, didn’t know this was YOUR site….

Anonymous

I was wondering when an article like this would pop up about wynwood. Honestly I thought it would be next month.
The people moving into the neighborhood should know what they are getting into. Miami has plenty of housing to choose from.
What’s the saying “if u can’t stand the heat…don’t move to wynwood.”

Anonymous

Everyone is blaming the residents but the developers which knew full-well where they were building beforehand and apparently cut corners in terms of designing for noise reduction.

Anonymous

When does Related NOT cut corners? They’ve had multiple law suits for delivering products less than quality and space advertised. If you move into or buy a Related product and then complain, that’s your own fault. You can easily find reviews of their buildings online.