Yet Another Home With An Understory Proposed In Miami Beach On Pine Tree Drive

A single family home has been proposed with an understory level on a waterfront Pine Tree Drive property in Miami Beach.

Deva Finger wants to build the new home at 4880 Pine Tree Drive, replacing an architecturaly significant home built in 1934 and designed by Robert Little.

The new home would include four levels and an elevator. Parking will be in the understory area, topped by two levels of living space and a rooftop, all accessible by elevator.

Mttr Mgmt is the architect.

Miami Beach’s Design Review Board must approve the plans, since it needs a height waiver, elevator waiver, and because of the historic home on the property.

Miami Beach adopted an ordinance in 2018 encouraging homes to built with an understory, and city planners say there has been an increase in such homes since then.

According to planners, a number of factors are encouraging property owners to build with an understory, including sea level concerns, flooding and mitigation, the raising of city roads, and a renewed interest in elevated living with open-plan structures.

 

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Anonymous
1 year ago

It is great to see forward-thinking designs that are elevated. At the Miami Beach Storm Water Master Plan meeting earlier this week, many of the concerns were addressing how to raise roads and not impact neighboring residences. Building homes with occupiable floors one level higher, begins to address these current and future challenges.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Sea Level Rise is a new play pen and money pit for all the engineers and planners to milk from.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Ahh, you must be right! Please show me the facts you base that fro, would love to learn more!

Anonymous
1 year ago

agree – finally. too bad it is only single family / individuals that are doing this and all the high rises are still ground level – amazingly shortsited people in Miami – very uneducated city

Anonymous
1 year ago

Dear Very uneducated Commentor, many buildings are raising the ground floor up as well as critical infrastructure, including Aria on the Bay, Monad Terrace, or Modera Biscayne Bay. Your incorrect blanket statement creates a false sense that developers are not doing their part to protect their condo buyers or shareholders’ investments. Not everyone is stepping up, yet, but many are building based on the SLR data.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Go kick rocks

Anonymous
1 year ago

If it’s so forward-thinking in regards to an apocalyptic Water World scenario, where’s the self-driving gondola dock?

Anonymous
1 year ago

people are planning for a few feet of SLR, not tens of feet. The majority of building elevation is for protection during storm surges, not a sustained apocalyptic water world. Even though you sound dumb, the self driving gondola could be something to look forward to!

Anonymous
11 months ago

Foward Thinking? My 5 year old can build a block house. There are many other ways to plan, adapt and address the changes on our earth besides destroying our history and our planet. Think OUTSIDE THE BOX, DON’T MAKE ONE!

Anonymous
1 year ago

Stunning Design

Anonymous
1 year ago

GORGEOUS!!!

Anonymous
1 year ago

great to see Architects coming up with creative and modern solutions to environmental issues like climate change. 

Anonymous
1 year ago

The Renderer went a bit lense flare crazy

Anonymous
1 year ago

Shipping container homes are popular now.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Awesome design and great forward thinking with sea rise. Beautiful!

Anonymous
1 year ago

Chic prison

Anonymous
1 year ago

I love this design! It’s exactly the type of structure Miami Beach needs to construct considering the increasing threat of rising sea levels. We need to be forward thinking in our architecture or we will regret it. Common sense.

Bigbadbillyboy
1 year ago

Mr. anonymous… I know it’s you..I told you I’m coming. You’re thick as shit so stop trying to proof to everyone in this site you are smart.i also now you spend a lot of time writing your responses. Thats your little game. This site is your only little place you feel in.command and superior , your little place of confort..– You always write anonymously because you are frightened stiff if you don’t impress everyone here you’ll be associated and it would crush you. . Oh yeah baby, I’m coming for ya….i told ya, this is the end of insulting everyone personally….w you’ve been doing for a long long time..to try to overcome your low self esteem. I’ve got ya!

Anonymous
11 months ago

Another Architect, Another BOX! Absolutely nothing interesting about pouring a ton of Concrete. There is nothing about this project that will survive the future of Miami Beach. In 10 years when the owner has sold it off, it will just become another concrete prison that has destroyed the history of what once was.

Anonymous
1 year ago

This Deva guy is going to get Fingered

Anonymous
1 year ago

I get he likes a finger

Anonymous
1 year ago

Zero chance this is approved as designed.

Anonymous
1 year ago

There are already homes of similar raised design that have been built(i.e. a home on Chase Ave.) or have been approved to be built.(another home on Pine Tree).

Anonymous
1 year ago

McBox, McModern, Mcgreed, McCookieCutter

Anonymous
1 year ago

McJealous

Anonymous
1 year ago

Well then we’re screwed, because we need to build for the future

Bigbadbillyboy
1 year ago

Shut up dummy. The last advise anyone will ever take is yours mr.anonimous

Anonymous
1 year ago

No kiddin???
I thought we built for the past. So we can fulfill historic regressions

Anonymous
1 year ago

Whoever lives next door must be privacy conscious. The Google street view for that property is totally blurred out.

Anonymous
1 year ago

I’ve never seen that before.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Replacing something classic for this box?

CRE
1 year ago

This is one of the most repulsive structures I have seen proposed to be built in Miami Beach. It is not in keeping with or in harmony with the neighborhood. It looks like a cross between a bomb shelter and a high security prison. It is overwhelming, much too tall, ostentatious and overwhelms the streetscape and neighboring homes. It is so out of place that it positively ruins the surrounding area. It is absolutely vulgar! If this Design Review Board allows this, the Board should be disbanded and all members removed.

SaveMiamiBeach.com
1 year ago

You said it best! This prison is almost 50 feet tall and the neighboring houses are 24 feet tall. Everyone please attend the Design Review Board Feb, 4th 8:30am to object to this destruction of our neighborhoods. Sign the petition at Change.org. 4 stories is outrageous, destroys the streetscape, privacy, sunlight and the character of the neighborhood. Robert M. Little, Fellow AIA, designed the architecturally significant 1938 home that currently exists and was beautifully restored by Tui Pranich. Pine Tree Dr is already a significantly elevated street at 4.6 NGVD and will not be raised by the City. This house is not about avoiding low elevation, it is about greed. More than 2x the height of surrounding houses and all paved non-permeable, will flood the street and neighbors. All large trees removed.
Sign the petition at Change.org.
SaveMiamiBeach.com
Join us as we take back our Neighborhoods. We vote and we make a difference!

Anonymous
1 year ago

I think you have the facts wrong. The home is not 50’ or four stories like you suggest. Its two stories with a rooftop. The understory, as conceived by Miami Beach planners is BELOW flood elevation (the legal zero elevation of all new homes). If its the 49 NGVD you are basing yourself on, you are misleading, because minimum seawall height in Miami Beach is +7.25’ and the last generation of houses +9. From the new ground zero the City is establishing (after many years and millions of dollars of SLR study) it says its 28’ tall, almost half of what you say. Lastly, its good to protect historical structures, but Im sure you know that if any remodel exceeds 50% of the appraised value of a structure (typically very underappraised by City Appraiser) the city MAKES you bring the floor level up to new flood level – so unless you expect people to live in crumbling houses, they must be rebuilt.

SaveMiamiBeach.com @ change.org
1 year ago

My facts are not wrong, yours are though. I quote….Miami Beach requires: “existing private seawalls that are being replaced/repaired not associated with new building construction, a minimum 4.0 feet NAVD elevation shall apply” End Quote. Not as you say +7.25′ When this is translated to NGVD it is +5.1′ seawall height not +7.25′ You are the one misleading everyone.

So lets look at the real facts: This home needs a 4′ waiver for code approval, has well over 2,000 square feet of (enclosed on 4 sides) understory – (otherwise know as rooms) in addition to the garage, 2 more large living stories and then to top it off an 11.5 foot tall 4th story containing an elevator, stairs and and adjoining 250 square foot room that “doesn’t count” except you can see it, stand in it, everyone knows it is there, and it completely overwhelms the surrounding neighborhood, towering over the +4.6 ground elevation of all the other homes. 4 stories, 4 stair landings.

If I was mis-calculating as you claim, I would have started with 2.64′ to get to 8′ NGVD, add +7.8′ understory, plus 28′ 2 stories, + 11.5’4th story = 55.3’total. Also not counted is the 3′ of projecting rooftop deck railings on top, which can bring it to 58.3’total height. If I really wanted to calculate the absolute height from sea level there it is, but I was not counting as you suggest, so again you are misleading.

I was properly counting at current grade from EOR (Edge of Road) (3′), which MB code requires for street harmonization evaluation.
5’+ 28’+4’waiver+11.5’= 48.5’vertical feet total. If you count the top elevator roof parapet and it is hitting above 50′.

I stick by my math and my reading of MB code. You can pick a fight somewhere else. Doesn’t change the fact that this is so out of character with the surrounding neighborhood, overwhelms the area and creates a blight on the street. And AS DESIGNED is Not allowed by current code, which is why he needs a waiver. We all need to just say NO, not in our neighborhood.

Disallow the 4′ waiver, step back the front from the street, and make him properly place in context the plans with the surrounding homes, before it can even be considered before the DRB. (Right now he has designed it sitting on a 5 acre plot on the island of Tahiti.)

Please if you love where you live and your neighborhood, attend the DRB on Feb 4th, 8:30 am commission chambers.

Website will work shortly, change.org is live, commission chambers are always open, they work for us! make your voice heard!

Anonymous
1 year ago

We’re with ya. I agree that it looks like a prison from the public street. i’ll be sending my comments over to the drb before the meeting.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Your website does not work.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Curious as to what makes the existing home architecturally significant to you? Is it in any registry or is the original architect well known? Is the original home showing up in publications, it looks pretty ordinary to me. Or is it because it’s old? If it were mine I would be more worried that flood insurance wouldn’t cover it in the near future.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Get out of here NIMBY.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Another soul who is holier than thou and thinks everyone needs to live up to their standards and taste.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Agreed

Anonymous
1 year ago

I find your comment repulsive, this design is amazing

Anonymous
1 year ago

And you should be dismembered.
Who are you to decide what somebody considers aesthetically pleasing?
Some people need to get a life and move to Inuit country in Canada so as not to deal with a community of different tastes, cultures and needs.

La Mala
1 year ago

All these homes look the same “Shoe Boxes” what a waste.

Anonymous
1 year ago

What a piece of crap…another concrete box.

Anonymous
1 year ago

you prefer those homes that look like a pollo tropical?

Anonymous
1 year ago

what does a pollo tropical home look like???

Anonymous
1 year ago

Sorry “architects,” but “McModern” is still another McMansion.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Please.. wish there were thousands of homes with similar designs like this in mainland Miami.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Go look at new crap in Doral. There’s a whole cookie cutter community of zero lot line versions of this monstrosity.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Jeez… this county would never move forward if it’s constantly subjected to the same ole status quo that you guys think should exist forever.

Anonymous
1 year ago

I should be an architect, all you need to do is build a box.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Spoken like a person who is clearly ignorant about architecture

Anonymous
11 months ago

Architects need to start thinking out of the box, not in them. UGGH!

Anonymous
1 year ago

This modern and well designed single family home is beautiful. It’s a home that’s fighting climate change and solving the sea level rise issues and the king tide problems that we encounter in Miami.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Needs a lot of work. Pretty bad