Youtuber Compares Travel Times To Orlando: Brightline Vs. Delta Airlines

Brightline’s new train service between the Miami area and Orlando was put to the test by Youtuber Jeb Brooks in a recent video.

Brooks took a Brightline train from Orlando’s Airport down to Miami’s Freedom Tower, later taking an Uber to Miami International Airport and flying back to the Orlando on Delta Airlines.

Even with Brightline travel speeds of up to 125 miles per hour, the total travel time of a Delta Airlines flight including Uber and check still came in shorter (3 hours and 45 minutes by plane, versus 4 hours and 25 minutes by train).

Viewers noted that no bags were checked during the comparison, and that the Uber to MIA was done in the early morning hours when traffic was likely light. Those two variables could have increased flying time.

While the plane trip was deemed faster, Brightline was still said to win on price, comfort, ability to get work done, and service.

 

 

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Anon
1 month ago

Look, Brightline is great, especially in South Florida. But why are all the excuses/arguments in Brightline’s favor while ignoring how this guy heavily padded the flight time?

He showed up at MIA two hours early! No pre-check or CLEAR. If you’re a frequent flier, there’s no reason to show up that early. 45 mins before departure would have been plenty of time. That cuts the “flight” travel time down by 1:15

Kramer
1 month ago

Clearly the objective is the driving force!

Look, Everyday the same thing missing off
I-95 and 8th Street;

1. Dunkin’ Donuts
2. 7-Eleven
3. WALMART
4. Movie Theather
5. Costco
6. Shopping Outlets
7. Auto Services
8. Car Wash
9. Fast Food Drive-throughs

Ana
1 month ago

There is no getting around the reality that most people will drive to Orlando from or to Miami, and if you have a family of four or five it makes no sense to fly or take the train. It would be 3x-4x as expensive.

HalfaDozen
1 month ago

Fully Agree. Not to mention if you were inclined to rent a car in either location you can dispense with that altogether.

As for plane vs train. There is no clear advantage as the YouTuber seems to imply. You may prefer the train or the plane, depending how you like to spend your “free time”. It will be an individual preference thing in the end.

If I was alone I would be more inclined to try the train and get work done and dispense with airport procedures. If a family, car is by far more economical (as you mentioned), dispenses with rental at airports, and allows more autonomy and options along your route. If 2 people, the airport would be my route, as have someone to talk to and not have to deal with sitting for 4 hrs or trying to work and ignore the person you are traveling with.

Mimi
1 month ago

I would rather take the train than drive myself, any day of the week! For me, it’s the difference between a relaxing trip and a stressful drive.

Alex
28 days ago

100% not true, I’m in Orlando with family in Ft Lauderdale.. I will absolutely use this service.. I don’t want to put miles on my car or use a rental to drive down there, so $150 each way and to be able to slam free beers and liquor drinks the entire time is a no brainer.

David Hoffman
28 days ago

Free alcoholic beverages?

OmegaVen
1 month ago

If anything the total travel flight time benefited from the early departure. Not only did he not have to typical Miami traffic on the way to the airport, the plane was already there sitting in the morning and did not have to deal with typical afternoon clogged air traffic, effecting departure (both in the ground and in air). Not to mention the afternoon FL pop up storms that are common. Had this departure been from MCO & in the afternoon like the train, you would see the difference. Showing up 1 hour before domestic departures is common

Southwest
1 month ago

I work for an airline in MCO. We tell everyone to be here 1.5 hours before your flight. That’s on a regular day. A day of irregular ops and you’ll definitely want to be there AT LEAST 2 hours early. Especially in Orlando where we have storms every afternoon.

John
28 days ago

I spent 17 years there and afternoon storms have little effect on operations. At least at Delta.

305-954-561
1 month ago

The reality is that some of us don’t care for airports or driving much. The train for sure

Anonymous
1 month ago

Me! I lived out of the country once and learned how I cannot stand driving and its the only option allowed to us usually in this state. It’s maddening. Trains and walking (when it’s enjoyable and you’re in a walkable neighborhood – also rare here in FL) are so much better, more enjoyable to me, and just way more healthy.

AAA
1 month ago

This isn’t exactly a fair comparison. What about the time to get to OIA where Brightline is in Orlando? Unlike Miami the airport in Orlando isn’t anywhere as close to downtown as it is down here. From downtown Orlando you are looking to at least a 45 min ride to the airport. Even coming from Disney it’ll take 30 min. In both instances this is with minimal traffic. Also, unlike Miami, there is no metro rail train connecting Orlando international airport to the urban core. In fact this guy could’ve taken a 15 min metro rail to the airport from downtown Miami to MIA and saved time and money from taking an Uber

Anon
1 month ago

It was unfair that he added the uber time to the flight only. Not everyone would be starting/terminating their trip at Miami Central. There’s a “commute” time for both options, and if you live in Doral, Coral Gables, etc it might be a lot quicker to get to MIA for a flight than Miami Central for Brightline.

Meanwhile on the Orlando end, you’re starting/terminating at MCO regardless of if it’s a flight or Brightline. Drive time is same for both, so not worth including in the analysis

OmegaVen
1 month ago

It’s perfectly fine that he added the Uber to the Miami time as it’s common place to start in the center of town. Most of the points of interest are located around downtown Miami or even further east on Miami Beach.

Anonymous
1 month ago

No it’s not. Anon is right and you’re wrong.

OmegaVen
1 month ago

Clearly you’ve never seen any train versus airplane video. Usually it always starts and ends with the city center or the place where most of the attractions are. If you think said points of interest are near the airport then you never stepped foot in the Miami area. Please kindly have a seat..

Anonymous
1 month ago

You’re a Youtube Genius who believes whatever he sees online that matches his preconceptions.If you start from one Point A for a trip for a trip, then you got to keep the reference point the same for both travel modes in order to have any kind of a real comparison. Please kindly stop posting while you’re still behind.

OmegaVen
1 month ago

I’ve travelled in multiple countries around the world via plane, train and automobile. That includes Brightline on many trips over the years. I didn’t need a Youtube video to tell me which method is better LOL. The starting point for the airline trip is the same point where they ended the train trip. The difference is nobody is walking to the airport in Miami, where it’s feasibly possible with Brightline Miami Central being, wait for it, CENTRAL and all. They could’ve also caught a MetroRail train to the airport which would still be included in the travel time. Some of you need help coping…

If anything, the time for both should have been taken southbound and in the afternoon.

David Hoffman
28 days ago

IF you looked at the long modern history of travel between NYC and a Washington DC then the trip comparisons are usually city center to city center when comparing passenger rail travel to commercial airliner travel and include all of the travel segments of walking, taxicab, bus, and the airliner, or passenger railway. That gives more accurate total trip times to compare. It should be the same when discussing Briteline.

Catmanndo
27 days ago

If it takes you 45 minutes to get to the Airport from Downtown Orlando then you are doing something wrong. It’s a 45 minute to an hour bus ride depending on the time of day.

DwntwnMimi
1 month ago

Me driving myself and my family of four from my place in downtown Miami to my parents place very near to downtown Orlando = 3.5 hours on most days and occasions and only $50 total gas plus tolls. LMAO. Am I missing something here?

OmegaVen
1 month ago

In addition to what I already pointed out earlier about the wildly inconsistent journey times driving presents, you’re also missing the fact that your true cost of driving isn’t just “gas and tolls”. Maintenance along with wear & tear must be considered. That’s excluding factors of insurance (FL has the 3rd highest rates in the country), depreciation, and purchase cost. That’s not all.. There are hidden costs covered by subsidy covered by everyone, whether they drive or not. You didn’t think your gas tax covered all these did you? The mindset of “this trip only costs me a tank of gas” comes from decades of car dependency.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Thats 100% BULL SHIT Omegaman

OmegaVen
1 month ago

Spoken like someone who doesn’t have a clue. Carry on..

ALLEN
1 month ago

How the cost eat a meal ? pack a meal could be less money or going of to eat could A Family of 4 would be 80 or more ?

T G
1 month ago

Yes, you’re missing the part about how much that drive sucks and drains your energy. Although, with a family of four it makes financial sense to drive. I only travel with my spouse there.

Joe
1 month ago

Drive

Anon
1 month ago

Who flies to Orlando?

OmegaVen
1 month ago

A ton of people. That’s why multiple airline companies offer several flights per day between MCO and S FL.

Anonymous
1 month ago

I have always flown. I refuse to drive more than 2 hours.

Leon G
27 days ago

I hope you don’t consider yourself an environmentalist

Name*
1 month ago

Wow both of those times sounds bad. It’s not even an hour flight and he showed up too early at the airport. And it’s sad that the Brightline time is closer to 4 hours vs the 3 promised, the 3 itself barely competing with road time. Tampa time will be even worse, as it’s an even worse long way route. 5 hours to Tampa!

DPD
1 month ago

I read where Brightline isnt yet running 125 mph on the Cocoa-Orlando stretch or 110mph on the W.Palm-Cocoa section, also I think the 3.5 hour time is direct from Mia to Orlando which I think they offer as an option if I’m not mistaken. Just a thought.

OmegaVen
1 month ago

The “3 hour” mark was only promised as a non-stop Orlando to Miami. Actually they said it was 2 hours 59 minutes. They have no reason to offer a non-stop service as of yet. They’re already running 15 trains each way on ~ hourly services. The WPB to Cocoa hasn’t hit 110 MPH yet due to FRA certifications set to be completed by the end of November. Orlando to Cocoa has seen 125 MPH, evident by the number of videos on Youtube showing it.

All that said, it definitely more than competes with road time. Your car journey from Orlando to Miami can easily be 4-4.5 hours. West Palm Beach to Miami can be 2-2.5 hours itself. Your journey will be affected by traffic due to rush hour, weather, accidents, construction, or just the sheer number of cars on the road. The train will make its journey rain or shine, rush hour or not. While on the train the person can sleep, eat, drink (alcohol if they so choose), work, walk around, go use the bathroom, or just sit and take in the views as they cruise between 79-125 MPH. Upon arrival they’ll be far more revived/relaxed than the person who’s just sat in a cramped car for hours.

DwntwnMimi
1 month ago

I dunno Omega, you might be planning your road trip to Orlando during rush hours but I’m willing to bet that most of us aren’t. Just face it, the train wasn’t built for us living here. What family of 4 is going to pay $200 plus for a one way drive to an airport where they’ll be required to pay even more to reach their final destination. I think we can agree that we are smart enough to know this is a tourist train first.

OmegaVen
1 month ago

Awe, you think S FL only experiences traffic during rush hour. That’s cute..

Family of 4 is $199 one way, $395 round-trip. There are several methods of transportation readily available to them upon arriving at their destination – some of them free.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Awe, you thing the whole trip is through S FL traffic. That’s cute. Everyone knows that once you drive north past WPB traffic is a breeze up til you get around the Orlando amusement parks.

OmegaVen
1 month ago

Anonymous, if South Florida traffic was the entire state, Then the trip will take 6+ hours. All that needs to be discussed is the typical slowdown section which is South Florida. I see you lack deductive reasoning.

Anonymous
1 month ago

I see you lack cranial fold s Omegaman. It’s an under 4 hour trip from Miami to Orlando. The WHOLE trip needs to be discussed, not just the part that makes your train fantasy seem more palatable.

DwntwnMimi
1 month ago

Again Omega , despite your inability to plan around sfl traffic I’m willing to bet that most of us know a good time to leave to avoid most traffic and how to get around it. If brightline cut down time by half maybe I’d consider it. Until then I will continue to take my car which I do at least twice a month. Your poor analysis about the cost above is inaccurate. Please take your raging hard on comments for the train,that can’t beat a car at cost or time, elsewherez

OmegaVen
1 month ago

Both your and “Anonymous” are hilarious. For Anon, all I need to prove is the S FL section can 2 hours or more to debunk your entire trip is “always under 4”. I go to Miami ~3 – 4 times month. Have done so by car and by train many times.

Dwntwn – why is it drivers always think they magically have “the best plan” when it comes to interstate driving? It’s like the plan is so good that no one else has thought of it. So as you set out at the perfect time of day, all it takes is one accident, one crazy rain storm to throw it all out the window. Now unless you’re telling me your “perfect plan” involves leaving at 3 am – I’m not interested. That’s about the only time of day where you can honestly hope for empty roads.

The best is that this website has already posted Brightline’s ridership numbers over the first 3-4 weeks (24 days to be precise) and it annihilates Delta’s ridership from MCO to S FL.

Anonymou
1 month ago

Brightline…no question.

Gary
1 month ago

I luv the IDEA of High Speed Rail , only this isn’t High Speed Rail to begin with , poor imitation of . High speed rail doesn’t have rail road crossings , accident waiting to happen .

Secondly they went about this thinking this will work , but how do we make this as profitable as possible .
This is not this will ease traffic ,
This is not this will be so much more incredibly faster ,
This is not incredibly affordable & so much more cheaper .
Those are just sorta true , & selling/justifying points .
This version of ” high speed rail (not)” is predominantly FOR PROFIT & not the selling points they claim .

OmegaVen
1 month ago

While Brightline is not considered high speed rail, its top speed in operation does equal that of the minimum threshold of high speed rail, both in the USA and EU – which is 125 MPH/200 KMH. The catch is that speed needs to come on existing/upgraded lines and Brightline’s 125 MPH section is brand new. Also, at speeds of 125 MPH grade crossings are not allowed. But that’s not really the problem with your post, it’s the rest..

There are plenty of rail crossings throughout Europe that cross at ~the same speeds as Brightline/allowed in the USA. We can argue the frequency, by they still happen. There are whole compilations in Youtube of rail crossings in multiple countries.

The “this will not ease traffic” is the most goofy of them for all. Brightline carried 1.23 million passengers last year. Through 8 months of 2023 they carried 1.26 million – a 68% increase over 2022 in the same timeframe. Now, even if we were to say only 25% of those people own cars (which in reality the % could be much higher), you’re still talking about over 300,000 trips that weren’t made with a vehicle. Just to further hammer down how ridiculous this point is – did you know that the Florida Department of Transportation (FDOT) and CFX wants compensation from Brightline for the Tampa extension? Railwayage has a nice article from March 2021 talking about this, “Florida Transportation Officials place Brightline under the gun”. A small excerpt

‘According to the FDOT letter, Brightline must also: “agree that Brightline will submit a ridership and toll diversion study and analysis with updated traffic and methodology and documentation acceptable to CFX and Florida’s Turnpike Enterprise” and “agree to the method that will be used for Central Florida Expressway Authority (CFX) and the Department to recover any loss of toll revenue due to the construction and operation of the Brightline system.” ‘

So even FDOT doesn’t agree with you considering they want $$ for Brightline even during operation. Also, speaking of FDOT, why not ask them about all the rail crossings since they’re mostly to blame considering the FEC railway in operation since 1885 is what spurred development in a lot of these places. They were the ones to allow & greenlight the crossings.

Leon G
27 days ago

I am curious to know how the ridership will do going forward. Many of the trips taken early on were probably people who wanted to be among the first to ride and will never ride again (or very rarely)

T G
1 month ago

I took the brightline from Miami to Orlando and back this past weekend. Paid for a premium ticket to get station lounge access, and free on-board drinks, meals and snacks. Totally worth it. Also, it’s very comfortable, and the ride is fun.

No thank you to transitting through the airport, dealing with security, boarding/deboarding and baggage claim.

No name needed
1 month ago

Deplaning, not deboarding.

Jack
1 month ago

Personally, I think the train option doesn’t need to be as expensive as it is… if you compare fees in Europe for similar trips, U.S. is ridiculously expensive …

OmegaVen
1 month ago

You can’t simply just compare the fees as rail in Europe is far more subsidized than it is in the USA. Orlando couldn’t even get a penny tax passed last year to bolster SunRail – much less Euro level taxes/subsidization.

Hello
1 month ago

Trains don’t fall out of the sky, train wins on safety

Anonymous
1 month ago

In 2020, the Bureau of Transportation Statistics recorded 40,867 total deaths from travel, including in planes, in cars on highways and on trains. Here’s how that breaks down by mode of transportation:

Planes: 349 deaths. Trains: 746 deaths.

Anonymous
1 month ago

Planes will always be safer to travel when your thousands of feet in the air away from anything, along with aircraft taxing and security lines that take longer than a flight itself.

OmegaVen
1 month ago

As much as I like trains, airplanes are the safest form of travel. Trains are the next best thing though.

OmegaVen
1 month ago

While showing up 2 hours before a domestic flight is a bit much for FL airports (LAX is another story), 1 hour is pretty common. The planes’ total travel time benefitted from search an early flight. Not only did his Uber not have to deal with Miami traffic, but the plane also did not have to deal with a commonly crowded airspace. Instead of being #4 to take off, he could’ve easily been #15 to take off in the afternoon. That’s also outside the fact that since it was an early morning flight, the plane was likely already sitting there and lastly, they did not have to deal with more volatile Florida afternoon weather patterns. Had this been an afternoon flight from MCO (like the train’s departure), you’d commonly see any fraction of those delays including longer TSA lines.

Wake Up!
1 month ago

This route is mainly for tourists! Families who fly into Orlando and decide to come down for a few days while in FL. They’re already used to trains, makes sense for them. Should spread tourism dollars to both cities.

OmegaVen
1 month ago

The best part of this whole comparison is just looking at the ticket sales, which TheNextMiami also posted about on October 23rd, and Brightline’s ridership dwarfs the comparable of which a particular airline is carrying.

In just over 3 weeks (Sep 22-Oct 16) Brightline carried ~58,000 passengers to/from Orlando. Over 24 days that averages out to ~2,408 passengers per day. I don’t think people realize how many people that is so let’s just convert all of them to airline passengers. A typical American Airlines Airbus A320 seats 150 passengers (a Spirit Airlines A320 174 passengers) – so I’ll just use 170. Again, there are planes that traverse this route that carry more (like Spirit Airline’s 228 passenger A321) and there are some that carry less (like American Airline’s 128 passenger A319). Delta’s Boeing 737-800 used on this route seats 160 passengers max. In other words, 170 is more than fair.

That means it would take ~14 Airbus A320s to handle what Brightline is carrying per day. Here’s the number of flights provided by some of the big airline companies from MCO to S FL per day (non-stop flights).

American Airlines: 14 (7 south, 7 north)
Delta: 6 (3 south, 3 north)
Spirit: 5 (2 south, 3 north)

This shows that in current operation, Delta and Spirit combined couldn’t handle what Brightline is ferrying to/from Orlando. Only American Airlines currently operates barely enough planes to handle current Brightline average over that time span.

Stanley steamer
1 month ago

I. Checked prices to get from wpb to Orlando for a flight. $149. I don’t think so, compared to tri rail the other way for $6

OmegaVen
1 month ago

There are no PBI (West Palm Beach) to MCO non stop flights. Also, Tri-Rail doesn’t go to Orlando.

Skip
1 month ago

Bring Brightline to the Ft Myers airport!

No name needed
1 month ago

How does this author not know it’s Delta Air Lines, not Airlines?

Leon G
27 days ago

Writers have become incompetent. I see more errors than before autocorrect existed

John K.
1 month ago

Just took the Brightline for the 1st time. Had the change my departure time to 1 hr later. Was able to do that on BriteLine with 0 added fee.

Plus no arriving 2 hrs early to clear TSA. Brightline wins for all in-state transport where they have a terminal.

John
28 days ago

Delta Air Lines is 3 words. Guess you don’t have editors, huh?

Drew
1 month ago

As someone who lives and Germany without a car the biggest issue I see when returning back home is that almost everyone already owns a car. Here you can avoid ever buying one and the savings of not owning one is offset by the cost of using mass transit (train exclusively). However the network here is far more extensive and with the new 49€ ticket offered you can ride unlimited regional and city transit which makes driving the less affordable option.
Change to peoples mobility preferences and habits will take a long time and the offerings from these services in terms of cost and serviced areas will need to improve before it’s a viable alternative. Unfortunately without ridership that stands to fail so people will need to be willing to arrive a bit later and perhaps even at a greater cost in order for greater train adoption. Ana made a good point that traveling as a whole family is rarely justifiable from a cost perspective if you need to pay for each ticket without group discount. Here is Germany they have special tickets and subscriptions for groups, without which would make traveling as a group or family cost prohibitive.

OmegaVen
1 month ago

The interesting part is when people compare Brightline prices to euro train prices is they forget to mention that mass transit in Europe overall is far more subsidized than it is in the USA. The best is that I hear this from people from Orlando. You know, Orlando that couldn’t even get a penny-transit tax passed that the city wanted to implement to bolster mass-transit in the area? Those same people who lambast SunRail for lack of frequency/convenience, then doesn’t want to put money towards making it better, and then in the same breath “Look at Europe”.. Btw Drew, not saying you’ve done any of this – just pointing out the irony.

All that said, considering Brightline has already established strong ridership in FL, it should help promote other projects. Good transit systems tend to raise the tide on other/future transit projects. As people travel to/from the region and use it, they then will start to ask their city/local people “Why can’t we have this here”. SunRail is still expanding, and the Sunshine Corridor project will connect the airport to the Orlando Convention Center before proceeding to Tampa.